Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Cathey
have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. The 1996-1998 (early) Dodge diesel uses the P7100 inline injection pump. That's your 240D-style engine right there. Not light-duty, though. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The duramax is a great engine Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. >> >> Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from >> use of the IH engines? >>

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
I am thinking about making it 4wd Haven't decided on stock Chevy or a Cummins and HP60. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 7:40 PM, "Fmiser" wrote: > > > > > Fmiser wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit > > > > > 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but clos

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Fmiser
> > > > Fmiser wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit > > > > 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. > > > > > Michael wrote: > > > > > > Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on > > Fmiser wrote: > > > > I disagree. My 123s are much le

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Gerry Archer
IIRC when Ford first decided to test market diesel pickups, they bought (1000?) engines from IH. Those pickups sold out rapidly. Then they contractes with IH to supply engines. Then they leased the rights to manufacture them. The IH engines were bullet proof. When Ford started making them,

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore
At 02:48 PM 8/8/2013, Curt wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? Dodge is supposed to have a V6 diesel option in their

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
The Amarok, I saw it too when I was there in 2011. They look awesome, same engine as the Jetta/Passat -Curt  Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:22:15 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 4:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The wires are for the injectors. They are known to go bad and the hatness needs to be replaced so the injectors get the power they need before worrying about replacing any. Injector voltage is critical in a PSD. My truck is a 1990. Mike On Aug 8,

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
See below On Aug 8, 2013 3:24 PM, "Fmiser" wrote: > > > > Fmiser wrote: > > > > > > Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? > > > Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. > > > Michael wrote: > > > > Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an > > r35

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
The wires are for the injectors. They are known to go bad and the hatness needs to be replaced so the injectors get the power they need before worrying about replacing any. Injector voltage is critical in a PSD. My truck is a 1990. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 4:40 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > My very

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
My very limited experience with diesel trucks is all fairly remote. As I said, earlier, my son is a mechanic and does some work on diesel pickups. He tells me how messy, difficult and expensive they are to repair. He was working on a late model GM Duramax recently. (an 08 if I recall correctly

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? The answer is that of course they can and a discus

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I saw a really nice new VW diesel pickup in Argentina, it was sort of the "mid-sized" size but was really nice. --R On 8/8/13 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody mak

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
-0500 From: Fmiser To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID: <20130808142417.58b4a...@jasper.condray.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Fmiser wrote: Meanwhile, I'm on the lookout for a

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
bject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Didn't I say that a year ago?  :-) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > The interesting thing about the TDI is that one

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Fmiser
> > Fmiser wrote: > > > > Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? > > Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. > Michael wrote: > > Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an > r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 > is efficient b

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Michael Canfield To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If I was in the market for a new light duty pickup it would be a Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 gasser.  Nice ride,

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Hahahaha. Mine is like driving a narrow school bus. Long, slow, crude vinyl, plastic and steel interior and usually full of kids. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 2:29 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > On 08/08/2013 1:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: > >> Randy wrote: >>> >>> However, I also have to admit that I really do

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread OK Don
Didn't I say that a year ago? :-) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > The interesting thing about the TDI is that one ride makes you a believer, > low down torque is awesome. > -Curt > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
12:01:47 -0500 From: Randy Bennell To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID: <5203cefb.70...@bennell.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If I had really deep pockets, I would consi

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread OK Don
When I was looking at trucksa few months ago, I ruled out the GMs due to NO room behind the seat (single cab, basic truck). The Dodge had the lowest payload capacity of the three in a bottom of the line truck, so it got ruled out. The discount, no haggle, fixed price via the EAA membership sealed t

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not powerful like a Cummins or Powerstroke. If you drive it completely the opposite of the Benz it is cheap to run and reliable. If you run it hard it will

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 1:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Fmiser
> Randy wrote: > > However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton > and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more > sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels > have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter > duty pickup wit

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
If I was in the market for a new light duty pickup it would be a Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 gasser. Nice ride, best prices I have seen, efficient, powerful, reliable. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 1:02 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > On 08/08/2013 11:08 AM, Dieselhead wrote: > >> I think the new diesel engine

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without incur

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 11:08 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two.

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
The Ford 6.0 is an IH engine. It is a good, solid design that Ford screwed up by not listening to IH. The 6.0 should not have been released in the US market before clean enough fuel was available here. IIRC the original design is German and works just fine with European fuel. Ford was stupid.

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread G Mann
It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without incurring the extreme

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Dieselhead
I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc.

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/08/2013 6:14 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not h

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
The bad Ford diesels are 2004 - 2006 Ford F250 with the 6 liter diesel engine. A friend of mine and a friend of his had these and both had MANY problems. Apparently, before that time Ford bought their engines. For 2004, they decided to make their own engines -- which had many problems. In 2007, t

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:03:32 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: > I have not heard great things about some of the Ford trucks in the > later years. They tend to have some engine issues that mine has not. > The brand new Fords have a different bunch of engines that may be > better but again, I don't usual

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Used truck prices are very high right now, actually used vehicle prices in general are very high right now. I've been kind of keeping an eye out and anything in the $10-$15k range is pretty well beat. I think it makes a lot of sense to buy new, especially since the manufacturers are giving HUGE