Darren Spruell wrote:
On 2/13/07, Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darren Spruell wrote:
Instead we end up with a GPL driver that has to be reverse
engineered and we end up with the same problems we already have.
Since when is the GPL a close source license?
Who said it was?
If
Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:39:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
On the subject of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
Now these companies have a great excuse to keep specs locked up tight
under NDA, while pretending to be open.
The OpenBSD project has been
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:39:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
On the subject of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
Now these companies have a great excuse to keep specs locked up tight
under NDA, while pretending to be open.
The OpenBSD project has been made clear more
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:39:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
On the subject of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
Now these companies have a great excuse to keep specs locked up tight
Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Which brings me back to the question, what can an OpenBSD/open
source/free software user do about it?
Sue Linux for anti-competitive behavior?
//art
Stephan A. Rickauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has just been
said. You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the result is a
readable and understandable GPL'ed driver, companies will be even less
motivated to release programming
My named doesn't bind to my private IP and only binds to localhost.
starting BIND 9.3.2-P1
command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953
command channel listening on ::1#953
I already have the listen-on option in /var/named/etc/named.conf file
pointed to my private IP.
options {
listen-on {
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:50:07PM +1100, atstake atstake wrote:
| My named doesn't bind to my private IP and only binds to localhost.
|
| starting BIND 9.3.2-P1
| command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953
| command channel listening on ::1#953
|
| I already have the listen-on option in
On 2007/02/14 21:55, atstake atstake wrote:
I'm getting this error I understand that I need to symlink some file
inside the chroot (/var/www) area but I'm not sure which file to be
exact. I search previous misc@ archive but they seem a bit confusing.
You probably didn't do the 'phpxs' after
Artur Grabowski wrote:
Stephan A. Rickauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has
just been said. You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the
result is a readable and understandable GPL'ed driver,
companies will be even less motivated to
Artur Grabowski wrote:
Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Which brings me back to the question, what can an OpenBSD/open
source/free software user do about it?
Sue Linux for anti-competitive behavior?
Nah. You can't sue `linux,' complain to Greg Kroah Hartmann. Most
GPL fans don't want this
Hi,
I just installed OpenBSD 4.0 on an IBM xSeries 336. I have noticed that, for
some reason,
I/O operations are not carried out as fast as one would expect for a machine
with SCSI
disks. For instance, the creation of a 50GB partion took a really long time.
The command
4tar xzvf ports.tar.gz4
Hello!
I would like to know when the CPU is switched into protected mode on i386?
Before or after executing init386() ?
Or does the bootloader / or the BIOS do this?
Markus
Hi,
I'm trying to track down the cause of poor network performance under
OpenBSD4.0/i386 on HP Proliants (DL380-G4 and DL360-G4p), which seems
to be concerning ethernet 802.3x flow control on the bge NICs.
Test topology is:
HP DL380-G4
int bge0 (BCM5704C auto at 1000baseT full-duplex)
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:18:16PM +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
| On 14/02/07, Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| Artur Grabowski wrote:
| Stephan A. Rickauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has
|just been said. You seem to be happy
2007/2/14, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And yet when a driver is released under the BSD licence, which conflicts
with the GPL
It doesn't. It simply doesn't work under Linux.
Best
Martin
On 14/02/2007, at 9:59 PM, Jose Fragoso wrote:
Hi,
I just installed OpenBSD 4.0 on an IBM xSeries 336. I have noticed
that, for
some reason,
I/O operations are not carried out as fast as one would expect for
a machine
with SCSI
disks. For instance, the creation of a 50GB partion took a
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:45:06PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:18:16PM +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
| On 14/02/07, Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| Artur Grabowski wrote:
| Stephan A. Rickauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|I did read your FAQ but I can't
Pete Vickers a icrit :
I'm trying to track down the cause of poor network performance under
OpenBSD4.0/i386 on HP Proliants (DL380-G4 and DL360-G4p), which seems to
be concerning ethernet 802.3x flow control on the bge NICs.
Test topology is:
HP DL380-G4
int bge0 (BCM5704C auto at
mickey wrote:
oh come fucking on!
do not start this bsd vs gpl crap again!
On the contrary, this is BSD united with GPL crap. :-)
# Han
Hello!
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:19:04PM +0100, Markus Ritzer wrote:
Hello!
I would like to know when the CPU is switched into protected mode on i386?
Before or after executing init386() ?
Or does the bootloader / or the BIOS do this?
/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/stand/boot/srt0.S, around line 60:
Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Which is exactly what the GPL people want since that's the whole
point of the license. Otherwise they wouldn't be using the
GPL. Duh.
Nah, RMS doesn't want this. A lot of `GPL people' don't want this
at all.
I quoted too much. The part I meant was:
Hello all.
I'm trying to set up a firewall/web-proxy/dns-proxy/dhcp-server box at
home, using a quite old i386-based pc (AMD k6-2 300, 256mb RAM, 2x10G
IDE disks) and OpenBSD 4.0.
OS installation, disk management, additional software installation and
configuration... everything went fine.
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:58:00 +0100, mickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:45:06PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:18:16PM +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
| On 14/02/07, Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| Artur Grabowski wrote:
| Stephan A.
Hi Greg,
if i understand correctly, you are advocating the program
described on http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
in order to enable one open source operating system to
support as much hardware as possible, which is certainly
a useful goal. In fact, i am using Linux myself for one
On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How long have you people been reading these lists?
When are people going to realize that Han is just a troll.
I've been here since 2004 and i never noticed!
However i noticed that Han is sometimes bearer
of apparently unpopular opinions
Man I *love* unforeseen consequences!
I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has just been
said.
You seem to have missed:
Q: What about the BSDs?
A: What about them? They are free to do whatever they wish, I
have no input into their development at
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:51:36PM +0100, Han Boetes wrote:
Most GPL fans don't want this deal at all.
Real GPL fans appear to be an increasingly diminishing subset of Linux
users today though. They're being supplanted by users who want snazzy
3D desktops and simply embrace ``Free Software''
* Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070213 23:00]:
Darren Spruell wrote:
Instead we end up with a GPL driver that has to be reverse
engineered and we end up with the same problems we already have.
Since when is the GPL a close source license?
GPL isn't, but a NDA would require that the
Artur Grabowski wrote:
Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Which is exactly what the GPL people want since that's the whole
point of the license. Otherwise they wouldn't be using the
GPL. Duh.
Nah, RMS doesn't want this. A lot of `GPL people' don't want this
at all.
I quoted too
Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the result is a
readable and understandable GPL'ed driver, companies will be
even less motivated to release programming documentation. This
will lead to a
On 2/14/07, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070213 23:00]:
Darren Spruell wrote:
Instead we end up with a GPL driver that has to be reverse
engineered and we end up with the same problems we already have.
Since when is the GPL a close source license?
GPL
Greetings:
I will not have time for a proper bug report until this evening when I
get home, but I thought I would throw this out there for now.
This issue is reproducible, and it occurred in the previous snapshot
as well. Briefly, here is how it happens:
I have net.inet.ip.forwarding=1, and two
He might *actually* be telling the truth. Maybe not all NDAs are
conspiracies against us, but are just marketers trying to keep things
quiet, and beyond that the companies don't care. That code might
actually be readable!
--then again it might not. We'll see.
As an optimist, I tend to agree
Hello!
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:42:43AM -0500, Nick ! wrote:
[...]
Also, please educate me: couldn't a BSD driver be created by using the
cleanroom approach? One person reads the GPL code, writes specs,
another implements them? Or is this covered when people say reverse
engineer?
That's
On 2/14/07, Nick ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/14/07, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problems would be similar if one signed a NDA, and then released
code with a BSD license. GPL, however, _requires_ that the code be
shared, and so I imagine it will be more problematic. Seriously,
On 2/14/07, Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, please educate me: couldn't a BSD driver be created by using the
cleanroom approach? One person reads the GPL code, writes specs,
another implements them? Or is this covered when people say reverse
engineer?
I imagine that's the
Programming documentation is restricted also because the hardware is
full of bugs and like Theo said there is no errata for a lot of
hardware.
On 2/14/07, Rod Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 10:42:43, Nick ! wrote:
...
Also, please educate me: couldn't a BSD
thats very... vague...
Sorry. I agree.
where are you creating this 50G partitiong? in the installer, or in
the installed operating system? what command did you use?
In the installer.
how long did it actually take? a really long time could be 5
seconds if you're expectations are too high.
Since upgrading a couple firewalls this weekend from 3.8 to 4.0, I've
noticed a large increase in passive-mode FTP transfer timeouts. Before
the upgrade, I had no issues...but now there are a number of client's
FTP servers that I have to transfer files to and from that transfers
simply fail on.
On 2/14/07, Manuel Ravasio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read that creating a dhcp-range entry in /etc/dnsmasq.conf makes
dnsmasq start the dhcp service automatically, but alas DHCP server
apparently doesn't work: linux and windows clients can't grab IP
addresses and other IP information, and
On my OpenWRT router, dnsmasq needs to be told that it is
authoritative on dhcp requests with the ``dhcp-authoritative'' keyword
in dnsmasq.conf
On 2/14/07, Manuel Ravasio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all.
I'm trying to set up a firewall/web-proxy/dns-proxy/dhcp-server box at
home, using a
Darren Spruell escreveu:
On 2/14/07, Manuel Ravasio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read that creating a dhcp-range entry in /etc/dnsmasq.conf makes
dnsmasq start the dhcp service automatically, but alas DHCP server
apparently doesn't work: linux and windows clients can't grab IP
addresses and
I have pf running on an OpenBSD 4.0 (patches 1-5, 7) router and I have one
user with two Gentoo Linux machines with kernel 2.6.18 who is having
troubles. Everyone else is having no problem at all. This user is having any
tcp connection he makes dropped by the firewall. The state shows up when I
On 2/14/07, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:24 AM 2/14/2007 -0700, you wrote:
No, the best case scenario is that the good intentions of the Linux
driver project would be focused on getting vendors to provide open
documentation from which any OSS project, including Linux, can produce
On 2/14/07, Tim Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have pf running on an OpenBSD 4.0 (patches 1-5, 7) router and I have one
user with two Gentoo Linux machines with kernel 2.6.18 who is having
troubles. Everyone else is having no problem at all. This user is having any
tcp connection he makes
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:18 am, you wrote:
On 2/14/07, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah, RMS doesn't want this. A lot of `GPL people' don't want this
at all.
This deal is meant to divide.
And this discussion isn't? There are already plenty of divisions within
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Tim Kuhlman wrote:
[snip]
So what is happening? It seems to me that either pf is broken or his linux
kernel is broken and pf is catching it. Any ideas as to which is the cause?
One other point I needs some clarification on, in my searching around I did
find an
On Feb 14, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Marc Ravensbergen wrote:
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:18 am, you wrote:
On 2/14/07, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is becoming one of those topics which goes on way to long,
and in which all the modalities applicable to OpenBSD have been
exhausted
Hello
I've got a new toy today, here's the dmesg:
What does this server contain?
* Intel Xeon 5130
* SuperMicro X7DVL-E
(http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000V/X7DVL-E.cfm)
No other specialities.
The keyboard is connected via USB, works. Disks are attached to the SATA
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 11:09 +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
The only problem is that we don't support zaptel. It is an incredible ugly
interface that only works with the digium cards that are not supported.
Head of the ftp://ftp.sangoma.com/OpenBSD/current_wanpipe/README reads:
Future release:
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 12:24 pm, Darren Spruell wrote:
On 2/14/07, Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, please educate me: couldn't a BSD driver be created by using the
cleanroom approach? One person reads the GPL code, writes specs,
another implements them? Or is
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 12:11 pm, Darren Spruell wrote:
On 2/14/07, Tim Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have pf running on an OpenBSD 4.0 (patches 1-5, 7) router and I have
one user with two Gentoo Linux machines with kernel 2.6.18 who is having
troubles. Everyone else is having no
On 2007/02/14 11:47, Tim Kuhlman wrote:
So what is happening? It seems to me that either pf is broken or his linux
kernel is broken and pf is catching it. Any ideas as to which is the cause?
Ruleset more likely. If you post it, people can make suggestions.
Might be useful to capture a SYN
On 2007/02/14 22:14, Soner Tari wrote:
Therefore, I am hoping to have Asterisk+Sangoma cards running on OpenBSD
sooner than most people are expecting. (Meaning that we won't need
zaptel/libpri drivers.)
The Sangoma cards work with their own drivers with zaptel loaded on top
On 2007/02/14 12:11, Darren Spruell wrote:
Yeah, when I went through it scrub rules had nothing to do with it.
All state, period. (Note that in -current the default is now to
implicitly build rules with both 'keep state' and 'S/SA' without
having to specify; default stateful behavior makes
On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Darren Spruell wrote:
On 2/14/07, Jack J. Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux, Gnu and other subjects
have their own mailing lists.
Only if you operate under the assumption that the actions of these
other groups don't undermine the efforts of your own.
No,
On 2/14/07, Jack J. Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 14, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Marc Ravensbergen wrote:
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:18 am, you wrote:
On 2/14/07, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is becoming one of those topics which goes on way to long,
and in which all the
On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Darren Spruell wrote:
My alternative is to go blare my mouth on Slashdot, but I'm more than
a little outnumbered there.
Actually, someone should (has already?) start one of those projects/
campaigns like
browse anywhere (http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/) and
Hi
I'm having issues with rsyncing ftp.rfc-editor.org through a PF firewall,
other connections (also other rsync connections) work well.
rsync -avz --delete ftp.rfc-editor.org::rfcs-text-only my-rfc-mirror
receiving file list ... done
./
rfc-index.xml
...
rfc1591.txt
rfc1592.txt
nothing is
Hello,
has anybody wrote a nagios plugin to check the presence of some
specified bgp-peers set up with openbgpd? In the past I used check_bgp
in combination with cisco routers, which checks the peer-state via snmp.
Regards,
Falk
can i see a dmesg as well? if you're running the machine as an amd64,
can you try it again as an i386?
dlg
On 15/02/2007, at 3:38 AM, Jose Fragoso wrote:
thats very... vague...
Sorry. I agree.
where are you creating this 50G partitiong? in the installer, or in
the installed operating
From: Pete Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:25 +0100
# ifconfig bge0
bge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
lladdr 00:17:a4:45:f5:25
groups: egress
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex)
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 21:59, Chris C. wrote:
Hi
I'm having issues with rsyncing ftp.rfc-editor.org through a PF firewall,
other connections (also other rsync connections) work well.
rsync -avz --delete ftp.rfc-editor.org::rfcs-text-only my-rfc-mirror
receiving file list ... done
./
On 13/02/07, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/2/14, Jamie Penman-Smithson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Any hints?
afterboot(8) has a section on routing.
Best
Martin
I read afterboot(8) but I didn't see anything related to the issue
that I'm experiencing.
Time to go back to Linux I
I've managed to solve a problem that was bodering me for some time now.
I decided to put this solution to the list just in case someday somebody
will be in similar situation.
How to solve the problem described on this picture:
193.x.x.x/27 193.y.y.y/27
|
2007/2/14, Jamie Penman-Smithson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I read afterboot(8) but I didn't see anything related to the issue
that I'm experiencing.
--
If you wish to route packets between interfaces, add one or both of the
following directives (depending on whether IPv4
hmm, on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 08:42:19PM +0100, frantisek holop said that
here i go again, describing usb problems. i am really not sure now
if it is a) my external disk, b) openbsd, c) bios/motherboard/usb port
that is giving me the headache...
none of them.
it seems that it was acpi after
Cool :-)
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 12:08:11AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 08:42:19PM +0100, frantisek holop said that
here i go again, describing usb problems. i am really not sure now
if it is a) my external disk, b) openbsd, c) bios/motherboard/usb port
that
On 2/14/07, Chris C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 21:59, Chris C. wrote:
Hi
I'm having issues with rsyncing ftp.rfc-editor.org through a PF firewall,
other connections (also other rsync connections) work well.
rsync -avz --delete ftp.rfc-editor.org::rfcs-text-only
On 14/02/07, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/2/14, Jamie Penman-Smithson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I read afterboot(8) but I didn't see anything related to the issue
that I'm experiencing.
If you wish to route packets between interfaces, add one or both of
the
following
I'm attempting to setup openbsd 4.0 as a router, the system has two
interfaces, rl0 and rl1. It looks something like this (apologies if
this looks really odd):
router [x.x.58.129] --- router2: rl0 [x.x.58.130]
router2: rl1 [x.x.58.140] ---
Not so much
I'm going to be installing on a soekris box (probably on flash media),
and I'm trying to figure out what the bare minimum I need to install.
Is there somewhere I can see what files are included in the
base40.tgz, etc40.tgz etc... so I know what don't fill up the flash
card at the start?
They
On 15/02/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm attempting to setup openbsd 4.0 as a router, the system has two
interfaces, rl0 and rl1. It looks something like this (apologies if
this looks really odd):
router [x.x.58.129] --- router2: rl0 [x.x.58.130]
On 2/14/07, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going to be installing on a soekris box (probably on flash media),
and I'm trying to figure out what the bare minimum I need to install.
Is there somewhere I can see what files are included in the
base40.tgz, etc40.tgz etc... so I know what
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:00:55 -0800, Bryan Irvine wrote:
I'm going to be installing on a soekris box (probably on flash media),
and I'm trying to figure out what the bare minimum I need to install.
Is there somewhere I can see what files are included in the
base40.tgz, etc40.tgz etc... so I know
On 2/14/07, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going to be installing on a soekris box (probably on flash media),
and I'm trying to figure out what the bare minimum I need to install.
Is there somewhere I can see what files are included in the
base40.tgz, etc40.tgz etc... so I know what
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:08:28 +, Jamie Penman-Smithson wrote:
On 15/02/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm attempting to setup openbsd 4.0 as a router, the system has two
interfaces, rl0 and rl1. It looks something like this (apologies if
this looks really odd):
router
On 2/14/07, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/14/07, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going to be installing on a soekris box (probably on flash media),
and I'm trying to figure out what the bare minimum I need to install.
Is there somewhere I can see what files are included
On 2/14/07, Marco S Hyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, please educate me: couldn't a BSD driver be created by using the
cleanroom approach? One person reads the GPL code, writes specs,
another implements them? Or is this covered when people say reverse
engineer?
[...]
Thanks for
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Hello all,
My OpenBSD firewall is still randomly stopping routing packets and I
still can't figure out why. :-(
I made the suggested patch to if_ether.c, ut now I just get the
following line in /var log messages:
Feb 14 18:08:41 bytor /bsd: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for
On 2/14/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007/02/14 21:55, atstake atstake wrote:
I'm getting this error I understand that I need to symlink some file
inside the chroot (/var/www) area but I'm not sure which file to be
exact. I search previous misc@ archive but they seem a
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