Re: strftime bug?

2008-01-09 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:41:24 -0600 Duncan Patton a Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why this does not bread in FreeBSD escapes me, tho'. "bread" --> finger dyslexia ;-) Dhu

Re: strftime bug?

2008-01-09 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:39:50 -0500 "David Higgs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 9, 2008 11:25 PM, Duncan Patton a Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > > Thanks, > > > Dhu > > man 3 strftime > > The maxsize parameter is the buffer size _including_ terminating NUL, > so the bug is yours

Re: strftime bug?

2008-01-09 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:51:01 -0700 "Philip Guenther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) pass the same size value to malloc() and strftime(), and Ya, this is it. Needs to be the sizeof the input buffer + 2. Why this does not bread in FreeBSD escapes me, tho'. > 2) check the strftime() return value a

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Tony Abernethy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not out to convince anyone that anyone has any more > rights than anyone else. HOWEVER, the original author DOES have more rights than anyone else. In particular, the original author says who has what rights. You have no say in the matter. Your opinion does not cou

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Tony Abernethy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was > pointing out that > you could release the alpha/beta/testing software under > whatever license > you choose that will keep it from being re-distributed Huh??? What kind of "release" is not "re-distributed"? Calling a redistribution "release" does not make it

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread kevin
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:07:50AM -0500, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > >> Daniel then brought up the idea of CD sales. Something you can buy and >> put an exact digital replica of online. > > are sure about that? and what about the sticker(s) that come with the > CDs? and the artwork on the insert? a

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread kevin
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:01:52 -0500, "Kevin Wilcox" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> There's no need to continue this on the list because you don't get the >> analogy so I'm replying directly. > Then why did you cc the list? I have to publicly apologize for that. I originally hit reply-all, wrote

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Miod Vallat
> > give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. > > My eyes! Aaarrrghhh... the "pleasure" of remembering the days I had > to implement an X.25 stack... aaah One day, DECnet (phase IV) will rule this world. Miod

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread kevin
> You can stop the GPL propaganda here. We have wasted enough time > rehashing it. You are not going to convince anybody here that some > random person has more rights than the author of the software. The end, > get over it, walk it off. I'm not out to convince anyone that anyone has any more r

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread kevin
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Wilcox wrote: >> >> Testing the software has nothing to do (as far as licensing goes) with >> a >> final, released GPL product. You can release the alpha and beta >> releases >> under whatever license you want to. Just license the final product >> under >>

Re: strftime bug?

2008-01-09 Thread Philip Guenther
On Jan 9, 2008 9:25 PM, Duncan Patton a Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may be a bug in FreeBSD, because it will work correctly if I pass a size > of > length +2 to strftime in OpenBSD. Actually, they both conform. It's your code that's broken. The 'maxsize' argument is the maximum n

Re: strftime bug?

2008-01-09 Thread David Higgs
On Jan 9, 2008 11:25 PM, Duncan Patton a Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may be a bug in FreeBSD, because it will work correctly if I pass a size > of length +2 to strftime > in OpenBSD. > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:06:42 -0600 > Duncan Patton a Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: strftime bug?

2008-01-09 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
This may be a bug in FreeBSD, because it will work correctly if I pass a size of length +2 to strftime in OpenBSD. On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:06:42 -0600 Duncan Patton a Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There appears to be a bug in strftime such that the last digit is chopped off > the seconds.

strftime bug?

2008-01-09 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
There appears to be a bug in strftime such that the last digit is chopped off the seconds. I built a gprolog instance with a time function primitive (to get around 27bit ints in gprolog/386) so: Bool c_adstm(char *timeS0, long secs, char **newtm) { struct tm Tm; char *sZnewtm; size_t Xlen0 = 0

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-09 Thread bofh
On Jan 9, 2008 8:45 PM, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/9/08, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just curious if you know how Kevin Mitnick was tracked down and > captured? > > did the police go to the billing address of the cell phone he was > using and paying for? > Heh. A sim

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-09 Thread Ted Unangst
On 1/9/08, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just curious if you know how Kevin Mitnick was tracked down and captured? did the police go to the billing address of the cell phone he was using and paying for?

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread bofh
On Jan 9, 2008 8:10 PM, pedro la peu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 09 January 2008 21:10, bofh wrote: > > You are buying it for the source code and binaries on the CD > > [snip] > > > If you _are_ buying the CDs only for the stickers > > Exactly. Buy them because you want to. There is

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread pedro la peu
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 21:10, bofh wrote: > You are buying it for the source code and binaries on the CD [snip] > If you _are_ buying the CDs only for the stickers Exactly. Buy them because you want to. There is no obligation.

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-09 Thread bofh
On Jan 8, 2008 2:27 PM, Eric Furman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:18:15 -0500, "Richard Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > Yes, that is my view of things. Using the phone could be convenient > > for me. (I think it would be convenient for me.) But it also > > perpet

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Tobias Weingartner
Diana Eichert wrote: > > give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. My eyes! Aaarrrghhh... the "pleasure" of remembering the days I had to implement an X.25 stack... aaah -Toby. -- [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > > Testing the software has nothing to do (as far as licensing goes) with a > final, released GPL product. You can release the alpha and beta releases > under whatever license you want to. Just license the final product under > the GPL. If

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, chefren wrote: > > It's misleading to call "GNU" "GNU" it should be called "BSD/GNU". > > BSD/GPL > BSD/GPLvX > > Somewhat more typing but good PR. Again, I surely hope you jest? Please don't associate me or anything I currently code on with the GPL. Why wou

Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question

2008-01-09 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, chefren wrote: > On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > > 2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad > > Eh, that's just a meaningless pile of transistors. Surely you jest? An FPGA is a meaningless pile of transistors? Weird... -Toby. -- [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Marc Balmer wrote: Nikns Siankin wrote: Facts about OpenBSD: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release CD's!!! # Secure By Default. OpenBSD uses broken WEP for securing WiFi networks. Has no WPA/W

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Nick Bender
> give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. Don't forget to run uucp over it ;-)

Re: Advice requested on security issues

2008-01-09 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 03:14:35PM +, Russell Gadd wrote: > Unfortunately some bank sites do use javascript and I have a concern > over cross site scripting - only because I have yet to look deeper into > this to see what the risks are. But if I never visit non-bank sites is > this a proble

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:10:07PM -0500, bofh wrote: > I don't get your point. then please clear you mind and go back and reread my post. I did not say anything about GNU/FSF but somehow that came up in your reply. I can only assume that you were caught up in arguing and not really paying atten

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Deanna Phillips writes: > ; Do something about it > ; Use another OS > ; Complain > > Which are you doing? None of the above. I ignore flash. My comment was only to point out that gnash is not the best example to show why Linux emulation isn't needed. Oh, I ignore Linux emulation, too.

Re: OT: Fiber NIC for OpenBSD router

2008-01-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/09 17:00, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > Can anyone tell me if they know of a good PCI fiber card that is still > available for 100Mb today. Good? Don't know. But it looks like D-Link DFE-550FX are available (at least in europe) and maybe worth a try (you'll need to at least add 550FX's pci i

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Ray Percival
On Jan 9, 2008, at 14:24, Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Marco S Hyman wrote: Yeah, X.25 with a triple-X pad (X.3/X.28/X.29). a Yellow book version, none of that fancy new red or blue book stuff. It scares me that I remember such stuff. // marc Where a "trip

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-09 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Nikns Siankin wrote: Disclaimer: Like it or not. I'm OpenBSD user for 4 years. Shit on my head - shit on all OpenBSD supporters. What's your point? I mean, why do you want anyone to shit all over..? If you don't like it, don't use it. -- Antoine

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Deanna Phillips
Marco S Hyman writes: > Deanna Phillips writes: > > But for Linux binary emulation? No way. If you want that, run > > Linux. What kind of people run Linux binaries on OpenBSD, > > anyway? Don't give me that "I need Flash", since I spent months > > of my life working on Gnash for OpenBSD ju

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Marco S Hyman wrote: Yeah, X.25 with a triple-X pad (X.3/X.28/X.29). a Yellow book version, none of that fancy new red or blue book stuff. It scares me that I remember such stuff. // marc Where a "triple-X pad" is not a description of some leftover Hippie from the 60's c

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-09 Thread Marc Balmer
Nikns Siankin wrote: Facts about OpenBSD: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release CD's!!! # Secure By Default. OpenBSD uses broken WEP for securing WiFi networks. Has no WPA/WPA2 support. # Do n

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Deanna Phillips writes: > But for Linux binary emulation? No way. If you want that, run > Linux. What kind of people run Linux binaries on OpenBSD, > anyway? Don't give me that "I need Flash", since I spent months > of my life working on Gnash for OpenBSD just so you wouldn't > have to use

OT: Fiber NIC for OpenBSD router

2008-01-09 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi, I am getting really stuck here. Can anyone tell me if they know of a good PCI fiber card that is still available for 100Mb today. All the fiber port cards I am looking at are now all > 1Gb. I would prefer get them new obviously as it's very important where they are use and run lots of V

Re: OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Marco S Hyman
Diana Eichert writes: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > run H.323 and you can experience much of that same pain again > > and more besides :-) > > (now we digress) > > give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. Yeah, X.25 with a triple-X pad (X.

Re: vlan trunking OpenBSD/Cisco switch

2008-01-09 Thread Thomas Börnert
hello, it works. on openbsd trunk device em0 ifconfig vlan 1 vlandev em0 up (for example) on cisco (2950 or 2960) interface GigabitEthernet0/1 switchport trunk allowed vlan 1 switchport mode trunk no cdp enable spanning-tree portfast trunk spanning-tree bpdufilter enable thats all -

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread bofh
On Jan 9, 2008 3:29 PM, chefren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/9/08 9:10 PM, bofh wrote: > > > > This is beyond silly. FSF/GNU used to sell tapes of GPLed stuff too. > I'm > > sure it came with pre-printed instructions as well. No idea about > artwork > > or stickers however. But splittin

flamewars : 9 Tips for Dealing with Idiots on the Internet

2008-01-09 Thread xavier brinon
Seems to be a must read Sent to you by Xavier Brinon via Google Reader: Online Survival Guide: 9 Tips for Dealing with Idiots on the Internet via Internet Duct Tape by engtech on 09/01/08 My first experience with online communication was bulletin board systems in the early 90s. The mor

Re: vlan trunking OpenBSD/Cisco switch

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Falk Brockerhoff wrote: On Cisco side: interface FastEthernet0/33 description temp. Uplink to brain duplex full speed 100 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q switchport mode trunk no cdp enable end Regards, Falk Not that this is meant to be a Cisco training class, but i

OT Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Stuart Henderson wrote: run H.323 and you can experience much of that same pain again and more besides :-) (now we digress) give me X.25 any day, instead of this new fangled ISDN technology. diana

facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-09 Thread Nikns Siankin
Facts about OpenBSD: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release CD's!!! # Secure By Default. OpenBSD uses broken WEP for securing WiFi networks. Has no WPA/WPA2 support. # Do not let serious problems s

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Well, you can hook up ISDN TAs with a serial port that look like a dial-up modem (AT command set etc.). However, I think these have long since disappeared from the market. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread chefren
On 1/9/08 9:10 PM, bofh wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 1:52 PM, Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:07:50AM -0500, Kevin Wilcox wrote: Daniel then brought up the idea of CD sales. Something you can buy and put an exact digital replica of online. are sure about that? an

Re: Help with root partition on RaidFrame

2008-01-09 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:22:04PM -0800, William Sloan wrote: > OpenBSD 4.2-stable (RAID) #3: Mon Jan 7 17:45:05 PST 2008 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAID > cpu0: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by National Semi ("Geode by NSC" [...] > root on wd0a swap on wd0

Re: Pre-Orders for Limited Edition Puffy the Blowfish

2008-01-09 Thread ropers
Ok, "Puffy", I'm assuming good faith on your side, so let me explain why you're being slightly mocked here: There was a huge toss-up some time ago about some person selling OpenBSD t-shirts on Cafepress without Theo's/Wim's/Ty's permission. The misc crowd will undoubtedly correct me if I'm wrong o

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread bofh
On Jan 9, 2008 1:52 PM, Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:07:50AM -0500, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > > > Daniel then brought up the idea of CD sales. Something you can buy and > > put an exact digital replica of online. > > are sure about that? and what about the stic

Re: vlan trunking OpenBSD/Cisco switch

2008-01-09 Thread Falk Brockerhoff
Der Engel wrote: Hello, Hi, Is it posible to do vlan trunking between an OpenBSD and a cisco switch? I know you can create vlan interfaces in OpenBSD but how would they be trunk with the switch? Yes, without any problems. $ cat /etc/hostname.em5

Re: Improving disk reliability

2008-01-09 Thread knitti
On 1/9/08, NetOne - Doichin Dokov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bacula (www.bacula.org) is your friend. yes, bacula is great. I just discovered, that it is in ports (even as package available), so I have to use it on OpenBSD yet, but it can't be harder to set up than on other platforms. I prefer i

vlan trunking OpenBSD/Cisco switch

2008-01-09 Thread Der Engel
Hello, Is it posible to do vlan trunking between an OpenBSD and a cisco switch? I know you can create vlan interfaces in OpenBSD but how would they be trunk with the switch? In the physical interface (hostname.fxp1) i should just put 'up'? Do you have to set some kind of native vlan here? Exam

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/09 18:37, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > Ray Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>I think ISDN is one of those technologies a significant part of the > >>OpenBSD population would be very happy to suppress any remaining > >>memories of. > > > > I'm getting flashbacks just reading th

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Marco Peereboom
You can stop the GPL propaganda here. We have wasted enough time rehashing it. You are not going to convince anybody here that some random person has more rights than the author of the software. The end, get over it, walk it off. RMS tried with circle talk to convince people and lost many acoly

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 02:14:27PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we have kernel > > level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. I have absolutely > > no interest in that whatsoever. y

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:45:21PM +0100, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Should a worthy > > alsa-only *open source* app appear, I'm sure that someone could > > port it to Sun audio. > > What about libjingle for example? It's opensource and used by al

Re: spamd-setup hangup/timeout settings

2008-01-09 Thread Mike Erdely
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 09:59:58AM -0500, Frank Bax wrote: > Are there any alternative? /etc/mail/spamd.conf mentions > www.de.openbsd.org; but Beck's traplist.gz is not actually mirrored there. You could point to a local copy (/var/db/traplist.gz) in spamd.conf and download it in a separate cro

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:07:50AM -0500, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > Daniel then brought up the idea of CD sales. Something you can buy and > put an exact digital replica of online. are sure about that? and what about the sticker(s) that come with the CDs? and the artwork on the insert? and the pre

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Shohrukh Shoyoqubov
There is a Sangoma card supported by OpenBSD, it is ISDN PRI (T1/E1) though, not BRI. I think it is A101, not sure about other models. 2008/1/9, SeDoFa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > I have great interest to use OpenBSD as ISDN router with an external > IS

Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?

2008-01-09 Thread Falk Brockerhoff
Lars NoodC)n wrote: we're using G5 HP DL360 and DL380 with no problems whatsoever. Except that the machine uses Intel Celeron/Xeon/Pentium and not G5. Had my hopes up for a second or two there until I saw the actual spec sheet. I think he meant HP DL360/DL380 G5 (Generation five), not the G5

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Ray Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>I think ISDN is one of those technologies a significant part of the >>OpenBSD population would be very happy to suppress any remaining >>memories of. > > I'm getting flashbacks just reading this. yes, the pain. the pain. we hates it, preciousss -- Pe

Re: Pre-Orders for Limited Edition Puffy the Blowfish

2008-01-09 Thread Alexander Hall
Steve Shockley wrote: Eric Furman wrote: You mean you killed a poor innocent puffy fish to make your unethical corporate dollars? I'll have to report you to rms. Free puffy fish for all! No, it's okay; he borrowed the knife from someone else. Are you sure? I heard he had someone else to do i

Re: Apache box behind Openbsd

2008-01-09 Thread Whyzzi
Did you follow 6.2.7 part of the OpenBSD F.A.Q.? http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Setup.forward Cheers, PV On 08/01/2008, Sewan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have an apache-php website running on windows server 2003 port 80, i have > correct rdr rules that pointing my web server, i

Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
* Falk Brockerhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-09 17:24]: > Henning Brauer wrote: >> well, that has been detailed to this list a hundred times... >> not much tuning required. > > Oh, sorry, I should have had a look at the mailing list archive. I'm not > reading the list all the time. Thank you fo

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Kevin Wilcox
chefren wrote: On 1/9/08 12:54 AM, Eric Furman wrote: This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read. You might get one wanker to pay for it, but if it comes in non-binary with all the source what's to stop them from posting it on the internet and everybody else getting it for free?

Re: spamd-setup hangup/timeout settings

2008-01-09 Thread Frank Bax
Jason George wrote: My spamd-setup always takes 20-30 minutes on two servers (4.1 and 4.2). This is not normal? When I run it manually; most of the time is spent downloading traplist.gz You are all connecting to beck@'s machine at the University of Alberta (www.openbsd.org) ? I use the sa

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread chefren
On 01/09/08 15:30, Richard Stallman wrote: >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Market >> >> "It is misleading to describe the users of free software, or the >> software users in general, as a "market". >> >> This is not to say we're against markets." > > If you want to see what we

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread chefren
On 01/09/08 16:44, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > I don't think either of you have a firm grasp of what's being said with > regards to selling free software. Or of the GPL in general. http://webster.com/dictionary/selling http://webster.com/dictionary/free http://webster.com/dictionary/software > The u

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:07:50 -0500, "Kevin Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Eric Furman wrote: > > On 08 Jan 2008 20:21:08 -0500, "Daniel Hagerty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> "Eric Furman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >>> This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read. > >>> You

Re: trouble with apache2 and php5

2008-01-09 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, cassier sebastien wrote: it seems normal but how can i do to configure php5 for apache2. do i have to use ports? Why do you really need Apache2? Is there something missing from the base httpd server? [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should shave... ;) -- Antoine

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:01:52 -0500, "Kevin Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Eric Furman wrote: > > > *BULLSHIT*. > > You have so completely missed the point it is to laugh. > > Apples and Oranges. > > Remember OBSD isn't GPL'ed > > There's no need to continue this on the list because you don't

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Kevin Wilcox
Eric Furman wrote: *BULLSHIT*. You have so completely missed the point it is to laugh. Apples and Oranges. Remember OBSD isn't GPL'ed There's no need to continue this on the list because you don't get the analogy so I'm replying directly. I didn't say that OBSD is GPL'ed, did I? I said that s

Re: Pre-Orders for Limited Edition Puffy the Blowfish

2008-01-09 Thread Nick Bender
On Jan 8, 2008 11:40 AM, Sunnz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/1/8, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > do you have a website that has pictures, the mail server stripped your > > attachemnts > > > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > > > > I second that, me want see pictures!!! > http://icanhascheezburger

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Ray Percival
I think ISDN is one of those technologies a significant part of the OpenBSD population would be very happy to suppress any remaining memories of. I'm getting flashbacks just reading this. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Nick Bender
> Any suggestions? Get a Netgear ISDN router - used one for a number of years with no problems. They come in either single network connection or with 4 port hub. -N

Re: Mozilla Firefox security updates

2008-01-09 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 03:44:00PM +, Russell Gadd wrote: >Could anyone enlighten me about how Mozilla Firefox security updates are >implemented in OpenBSD? $ pkg_info mozilla-firefox Information for inst:mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.10 [...] You've seen that ports/packages are currently not m

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should a worthy > alsa-only *open source* app appear, I'm sure that someone could > port it to Sun audio. What about libjingle for example? It's opensource and used by all Jabber clients which support VoIP - and it only supports ALSA (at least the last

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Dusty
On Jan 9, 2008 4:10 PM, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonathan Schleifer writes: > > > Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we > >> have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. > >> I have absolutel

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Kevin Wilcox
Eric Furman wrote: On 08 Jan 2008 20:21:08 -0500, "Daniel Hagerty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: "Eric Furman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read. You might get one wanker to pay for it, but if it comes in non-binary with all the source what's to sto

PF Rules Configuration

2008-01-09 Thread Lionel Pinkhard
Hi, I'm trying to setup PF Rules for a new OpenBSD 4.2 installation, but after struggling for a few days I still can't get it the way I need it to be. This is my first time setting up a pf.conf file, so any assistance would be greatly appreciated. What I need: - A firewall that allows ONLY t

Re: Advice requested on security issues

2008-01-09 Thread Russell Gadd
Jussi Peltola wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:48:41AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I suppose the only way to have a "trusted-secure" box and an "untrusted-insecure" box with one disply/keyboard would be a KVM. Actual, physical separation of the machines is the only 100% secure way to prev

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > Simple answer: no Well, you can hook up ISDN TAs with a serial port that look like a dial-up modem (AT command set etc.). However, I think these have long since disappeared from the market. -- Christi

Mozilla Firefox security updates

2008-01-09 Thread Russell Gadd
Could anyone enlighten me about how Mozilla Firefox security updates are implemented in OpenBSD? I notice that the version of Firefox I am using in OBSD is 2.0.0.6 whereas the latest versions on Windows and Ubuntu are both 2.0.0.11, and several security vulnerabilities are present in 2.0.0.6.

Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Sevan / Venture37
> I changed from using HP DL380's to Dell 2950's in the last year or so since it > has better support for OpenBSD. With the DL380's, we were getting about > 70,000 pps during tests but after following the explanations about network > performance tuning in a great article by Henning Brauer (I have b

Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Falk Brockerhoff
Henning Brauer wrote: well, that has been detailed to this list a hundred times... not much tuning required. Oh, sorry, I should have had a look at the mailing list archive. I'm not reading the list all the time. Thank you for your hint! GENERIC kernel, no SMP (hurts in that case), right am

trouble with apache2 and php5

2008-01-09 Thread cassier sebastien
Hello, i want to install a apache2 serveur on my OpenBSD 4.2 with mysql and php5 i installed apache-httpd php5-core and mysql (and php5-mysql) with the pkg_add command, but when a execute phpxs, it's configuring the 1.3apache versions. it seems normal but how can i do to configure php5 for apache2

Re: Pre-Orders for Limited Edition Puffy the Blowfish

2008-01-09 Thread Steve Shockley
Eric Furman wrote: You mean you killed a poor innocent puffy fish to make your unethical corporate dollars? I'll have to report you to rms. Free puffy fish for all! No, it's okay; he borrowed the knife from someone else.

Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
* Vijay Sankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-09 16:11]: > Finally found the paper I was looking for. It is at > > http://www.openbsd.org/papers/tuning-openbsd.ps this is (almost) completely obsolete. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Ser

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:30:52 -0500, "Richard Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Market > > > > "It is misleading to describe the users of free software, or the > > software users in general, as a "market". > > > > This

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread bofh
On Jan 8, 2008 7:20 PM, chefren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read. > > You might get one wanker to pay for it, but if it comes > > in non-binary with all the source what's to stop them > > from posting it on the internet and everybody else > > ge

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Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Vijay Sankar
On January 9, 2008 08:20:40 am Vijay Sankar wrote: > On January 9, 2008 06:35:56 am Falk Brockerhoff wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm running two Dell Poweredge 2650 Servers with dual Xeon 2,2 GHz und 5 > > Gig Ram as a redundant firewall cluster, using Broadcom and Intel > > Gigabit Cards (bge and em

Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license

2008-01-09 Thread Deanna Phillips
Jonathan Schleifer writes: > Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> that would require kernel level ALSA emulation, just as we >> have kernel level OSS emulation for linux binaries using OSS. >> I have absolutely no interest in that whatsoever. you'd have >> better luck convincing Adobe to

Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Vijay Sankar
On January 9, 2008 06:35:56 am Falk Brockerhoff wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running two Dell Poweredge 2650 Servers with dual Xeon 2,2 GHz und 5 > Gig Ram as a redundant firewall cluster, using Broadcom and Intel > Gigabit Cards (bge and em Drivers). > > Last weekend I got a Denial of Service Attack on

Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]

2008-01-09 Thread Eric Furman
On 08 Jan 2008 20:21:08 -0500, "Daniel Hagerty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > "Eric Furman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read. > > You might get one wanker to pay for it, but if it comes > > in non-binary with all the source what's to stop them

Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
* Falk Brockerhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-09 14:50]: > Henning Brauer wrote: > > Hi Henning, > >> * Falk Brockerhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-09 14:09]: > > >>> works fine up to roundabout 100-120k pps. >> I have had and seen _way_ more than that. > > Can you please provide some details o

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
* SeDoFa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-09 14:53]: > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > I have great interest to use OpenBSD as ISDN router with an external > ISDN terminal adapter (USB interface). > > Until now I didn't find any configuration hints for ISDN devices under > OpenBSD. I

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
SeDoFa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? > > I have great interest to use OpenBSD as ISDN router with an external > ISDN terminal adapter (USB interface). If your ISDN TA can be made to look like a serial device and accept AT commands (ie behave like a mode

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Andre Ruppert
Sorry, no chance Regards Andre Ruppert

Re: OpenBSD and ISDN TA

2008-01-09 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, SeDoFa wrote: Simply question: does OpenBSD support ISDN? Simple answer: no

Re: Dell Poweredge 1650/2650 + OpenBSD4.2 + PF -> Maximum PPS

2008-01-09 Thread Falk Brockerhoff
Henning Brauer wrote: Hi Henning, * Falk Brockerhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-09 14:09]: > works fine up to roundabout 100-120k pps. I have had and seen _way_ more than that. Can you please provide some details of the configuration and tweaks you have done to handle this amount of pp

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