Re: altroot is not mentioned in FAQ

2007-11-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 11:54:45AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: On Sep 25 10:11:04, Joel Knight wrote: --- Quoting Jan Stary on 2007/09/25 at 15:48 +0200: afterboot(8) mentions /altroot, which is a nice feature. But you only learn about /altroot when you read afterboot(8). By that time,

Re: altroot is not mentioned in FAQ [diff]

2007-11-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:11:55PM +0100, ropers wrote: On 06/11/2007, Jan Stary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is using a larger disk in the example a problem? Using a 20G disk makes the point of showing how usable the system is even on a small disk, but 20G disks don't really exist anymore.

Re: altroot is not mentioned in FAQ [diff]

2007-11-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 01:23:55PM +1100, RW wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:26:04 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Jest Perhaps there needs to be a new fork: OldBSD: Unix for the Ages. s/Ages/Aged/ ?? Given that I joined IBM in 1962, I am allowed to make such jokes. ~|^ = Ha! When I

Re: When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

2007-11-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:16:39PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 04:06:21PM -0500, Juan Miscaro wrote: Thank you. I also have a need to be able to write UTF-8 on my non-X systems. Do you have any thoughts on the matter? We don't have a console that supports utf8 for

Re: avail mem is only 66% of real mem

2007-11-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 07:55:42PM -0500, Wade, Daniel wrote: -Original Message- From: Ted Unangst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 11/5/2007 7:43 PM To: Wade, Daniel Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: avail mem is only 66% of real mem On 11/5/07, Wade, Daniel [EMAIL

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 11:45:36AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: From the replies I got (none of which actually answered my question) it looks like the nice state might be a state where the nice value != 0. Or less than zero would also make sense. But it could be also that OpenBSD has the

Re: Open hardware.

2007-11-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 07:47:27PM +, Adrian Fisher wrote: How much modern computer hardware is fully open source or at least has fully open interfaces that allow anyone to create device drivers? I Sun and another company (Anglo-Italian firm Simply-RISC) released a processor based on Suns

Re: When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

2007-11-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:03:31PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 07:41:35AM -0400, Juan Miscaro wrote: --- Paul Irofti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 11:22:53AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 11/1/07, Juan Miscaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is

Re: Bad MD5 of install42.iso

2007-11-01 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:58:42PM +0100, Przemys?aw Pawe?czyk wrote: I dloaded the file from two different servers. Here's what I got running md5sum: 1) MD5s for downloaded files md5sum install42.iso 03dc43a1d18d3003843a1f13b3861917 install42.iso Just for checking: md5sum cd42.iso

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:31:31PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: It's a pretty simple concept, really. A few years ago, I was giving a talk at a local high school. One of the students asked me why his computer crashed a lot, why can't they build an operating system that doesn't crash?. I told

Re: Non-x86

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:53:38PM +0200, Lars Nood??n wrote: Martin SchrC6der wrote: 2007/10/26, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where are the choices for non-x86? The only remaining alternative is Sparc. Everything else is either old (macppc) or expensive unsupported (IA64). It's

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:11:01AM -0400, bofh wrote: On 10/29/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if nobody makes really good hardware then there's nobody to reward for it, so you end up buying bad hardware and rewarding the maker for it. If given a choice, I think I like

Re: Non-x86

2007-10-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:59:43AM -0400, Jeff Quast wrote: On 10/26/07, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the choices for non-x86? The only remaining alternative is Sparc. Everything else is either old (macppc) or expensive unsupported (IA64). If anyone is

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 05:34:17PM -0400, bofh wrote: Why would you do that? Go read The Software Conspiracy. The author, Minasi, got, on the record, interviews from VPs of development at Microsoft, Netscape, Sun, Oracle, etc basically saying that they don't give a shit about lousy

Re: max number of groups

2007-10-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:55:13AM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: On 10/25/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:19:19AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Well, there is no solution. 16 was chosen a lot of years ago as a reasonable amount of state to carry around

Re: max number of groups

2007-10-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 03:38:51PM -0700, Darren Spruell wrote: On 10/26/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:55:13AM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: On 10/25/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:19:19AM -0600, Theo de

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:07:59PM -0500, Tony Abernethy wrote: only an idiot would think that separatey physical machines would NOT increase security Many IBM PCs vs IBM mainframe Apples and oranges. When people compare one box to many, they're talking about the same arch of box. We

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:37:02PM +1300, Richard Toohey wrote: On 25/10/2007, at 8:28 PM, Richard Toohey wrote: You are in charge of getting four ambassadors to a meeting. As well as making sure they are happy and fed, you are in charge of their security. All four are hated in their

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 11:39:28AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: While those factors do exist, the biggest factor is probably that the clocking parts are supplied by the lowest bidder, and there is no need to be higher quality than the competition. Leaky capacitors? Who cares. Tantalum and

Re: max number of groups

2007-10-25 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:19:19AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: I'm running an OpenBSD server with a lot of users and project groups. Each project has its own group or two to protect it's files from other users. How do you guys usually solve this problem when user needs to be member of

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 08:35:39PM -0700, Ben Goren wrote: On 2007 Oct 23, at 5:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. ``Seems'' is the key word, here. On hardware like an IBM mainframe that can acutally support what's necessary for

sanely designed hardware?

2007-10-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
After enjoying the Xen thread, and the comments about the horrid mess that is x86 hardware design, I'm wondering what hardware on which OpenBSD will run _is_ well designed. Who makes a hardware architecture that is open (enough) that OpenBSD can run fully on it, that has good performance. I'm

Re: new dell install completed, but...

2007-10-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:14PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new Dell Optiplex 745 with an Intel Core 2 Duo. this system completed the install. Now on boot it hangs after: wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0 the only issue I had during install was

Re: Help! I'm having Linux foisted on me! (PF queuing woes)

2007-10-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 03:15:03PM +0100, Richard Wilson wrote: I appeal to the PF masters for some education on how to do something, because if I can't work out how to do it using PF, I'll have to do it with iptables. Eep! [snip the details] That's about it really. If I can get it to work,

Re: : cp(1) bug ?

2007-10-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 09:19:21AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/19/07, Tom Van Looy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Toohey wrote: On 19/10/2007, at 8:12 PM, Raimo Niskanen wrote: Looks like OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and Mac OS X BSD bits have the same sort of outcome. Copy foo

Re: Tackilng multiple versions of autoconf

2007-10-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:52:27AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/10/16 16:10, Amarendra Godbole wrote: A peculiar thing I noticed with many ports is they need different versions of autoconf installed (set through the AUTOCONF_VERSION variable) - so in the end, my system has 3

Re: : Which remvable drive is connected to which USB port

2007-10-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:32:21PM +0930, Edwards, David (JTS) wrote: I was hoping to use physical lables on the USB disks with labelled USB cables but I've just found out during testing that the connection between a USB device and a physical cable is not as simple as I first thought. I

Re: How do I configure sendmail?

2007-10-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:21:36PM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: On 10/16/07, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/10/16, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have read the man pages of afterboot, sendmail, and also looked at /usr/share/sendmail/README. I also have tried to google,

Re: : expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

2007-10-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 02:39:59PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 19:34 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I need to look something up in a catalog. The catalog doesn't come in print. I phone the supplier, they say look on the web. Its in flash. So, I need flash to get

Re: logs

2007-10-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 05:55:03PM +, Mike F wrote: is there a similar logwatch program as in other linux systems What do you mean by _other_ linux systems. This isn't a linux system. :))) Doug.

Re: : expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

2007-10-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 05:31:51AM -0500, Robert C Wittig wrote: Raimo Niskanen wrote: Perhaps the best, but not the only. Flash i all over the net. E.g to see the weather forecasts from the Swedish Meteorology and Hydrology Institute (SMHI), you need Flash 8. Just a few months ago you needed

Re: : expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

2007-10-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 03:57:19PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: On Oct 15 09:16:39, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Well, at least I know that I'm not alone in needing to use flash to get real work done (not for games or other time-wasters). Which means that for any box from which I want to get real

Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

2007-10-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:36:33PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:57:18PM -0400, Kevin Stam wrote: However, it is also worth noting that some typical desktop needs and uses are incompatible with the focus of OpenBSD. There are currently no video cards that provide

Re: OpenBSD replacement for GnuPG

2007-10-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:50:36PM +0200, Gilles Chehade wrote: Sean Darby a icrit : I should add... there seems to be a NetBSD variant, BPG, though I am not sure of the reliability of that (does anyone here use it?). Last time i checked (a year ago) bpg was stalling, I had a contact

expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

2007-10-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
I've been evaluating OpenBSD as a desktop system while learning about it on my lesser (older) hardware. I've learned a lot and will continue to learn about OpenBSD but I don't think it will work as my primary desktop. Based on what I've learned here on Misc, I'd like to start a discussion

Re: expansion of FAQ# 1.10 re OpenBSD as a desktop system

2007-10-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
, at what resolution, full screen, deinterlaced (blend)? On 10/11/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been evaluating OpenBSD as a desktop system while learning about it on my lesser (older) hardware. I've learned a lot and will continue to learn about OpenBSD but I don't think

Re: Multi booting OpenBSD and OpenBSD and

2007-10-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:35:30PM +0200, Nico Meijer wrote: Somewhat OT, but I used a different approach, as I had enough IDE disks lying around. I got myself an external USB enclosure with swappable HDD brackets. Then, of course, the POS device broke, but that's not the point I am

Re: Multi booting OpenBSD and OpenBSD and

2007-10-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:51:26PM +0200, Tilo Stritzky wrote: I just got a brand new office PC, 64bit CPU. But I'm stuck with some Apps in i386 compatibility. So I installed i386 for work. Next week I'm going to get an USB stick and put an amd64 install on it, for play :) In Debian amd64

Re: [side thread] security implcations of multiple kernel threads?

2007-10-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:44:05AM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: On 10/9/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is this? Is there a security reason why the kernel is single-thread; is it OBSD resource limitations (no developer time, no hardware, etc); is it not enough interest yet

Re: How can i boot a bsd.rd from windows 2000 ?

2007-10-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:49:24PM +0200, Christopher Bianchi wrote: Hello everyone. My situation is this: i've a laptop, a Sharp pc-ax10 with Windows 2000 preinstalled , without cdrom, floppy. I wish install OpenBSD on it. Naturally bios can't boot from USB. So i've thinked to boot the

Re: Multi booting OpenBSD and OpenBSD and

2007-10-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 07:09:35PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: In Debian amd64 Etch (stable), there is no way to use flashplayer (a 32-bit binary plugin that requires a 32-bit browser. To use it, you have to set up a 32-bit chroot. It never has to boot, just

[side thread] security implcations of multiple kernel threads?

2007-10-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 08:03:18PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-09 19:34]: then, an i386 kernel should perform considerably better than amd64 for firewalling/routing/... That is surprising. What is the reason? we dunno really. it hasn't been

Re: The Name: UNIX

2007-10-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 04:50:10PM -0500, Sean Darby wrote: In response to the recent easter egg in 4.2's song, I asked about some possible meaning behind the 11 1010101 bit and only ended up more confused as a result of what one individual provided in their replies. Could anybody

Re: partition layout

2007-10-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:14:53AM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 17:10 -0700, Clint Pachl wrote: The only thing I would use that 486 for would be an X client, with a good graphics card, a router, or as a command line tinkering system. Yes, a 486 is still plenty of

Re: sign and timestamp

2007-10-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 05:03:41PM +0200, G?bri M?t? wrote: There'll be two main servers, a web server and a sql server. We have to insert a timestamp and a signature in the specified rows of tables. Periodically the sql server will make pdf documents from the data and we have to sign and

Re: partition layout

2007-10-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 08:39:57AM -0300, Marcus Andree wrote: On 10/4/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 07:46:01PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I have a 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram. I bought an 8 GB drive to put in my P-II

Re: OpenBSD Desktop sighted in Yahoo Bangalore, India

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:10:59AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/2/07, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my best friends who was working with me for about 5 years recently got job in Bangalore. He had repeatedly turned down my offer to teach him OpenBSD and even teased me

partition layout

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Hello all, I have a 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram. I bought an 8 GB drive to put in my P-II and it won't boot it so I've put in in the 486 along with a 1 GB drive. I'm on dialup and would like to avoid a bad partitioning decision requring a whole new install/download cycle (I'm on slow dialup).

Re: OpenBSD Desktop sighted in Yahoo Bangalore, India

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:23:03AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/3/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/07, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As he Joined Yahoo Bangalore to his horror he found that the desktop assigned to him Booted OpenBSD. As soon as he

Re: OpenBSD Desktop sighted in Yahoo Bangalore, India

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 06:28:52PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: I think the project is always in need of money. There's no steady supply of incoming cash except for the (dropping) CD sales etc. Always try to persuade your employer to donate if they're using OpenBSD or OpenBSD-derived software

Re: partition layout

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:40:25PM -0400, Stephan Andre' wrote: On Wednesday 03 October 2007 11:50:40 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Here's what I'm thinking: wd0 (1.1 GB drive): a100 MB / b128 MB swap c1.1 GB d256 MB /tmp e ~640 MB /var wd1 (8.1 GB drive

Re: sign and timestamp

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 06:21:53PM +0200, G??bri M??t?? wrote: I've read a lot about timestamping a document, but dunno how it works in practice. How can i apply a timestamp to a digitally signed or encrypted document? Like i encrypt or sign a document with gnupg, but before the process how

Re: sign and timestamp

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
specific. Yes, later on the reciever need to verify the timestamp. I was looking for an oss application but couldn't find any for timestamping. Douglas A. Tutty ?rta: On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 06:21:53PM +0200, G??bri M??t?? wrote: I've read a lot about timestamping a document, but dunno how

Re: sign and timestamp

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:45:30PM +0200, G?bri M?t? wrote: A service will gather data in a database and this data has to be signed and timestamped for security reasons, and the archives of these data are also need to signed and timestamped. The data will be used for internal purposes, so

Re: partition layout

2007-10-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 07:46:01PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Hello all, I have a 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram. I bought an 8 GB drive to put in my P-II and it won't boot it so I've put in in the 486 along with a 1 GB drive. you might want to spend more time

Re: OpenBSD on decTOP?

2007-09-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 08:47:04AM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Markus Hennecke wrote: As it won't probe on port 0x2e8 it will not find it. Thats why it was disabled, the probe will have negative effects on other hardware. Greetings Markus that's what I assumed,

minimum hard-drive space to compile patches?

2007-09-24 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
I currently have OBSD running on my P-II with an 850 MB drive and 64 MB ram. On install, I chose not to include the compiler set over concern re drive space. The FAQ says how much space is required to minimally run OBSD and it says how much to be able to comfortably compile (4G is not a bad

Re: lock(1) to lock all virtual terminals?

2007-09-23 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 05:23:37PM -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: On 9/23/07, Todd Alan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does lock -nv not work? I just read about this in BSD Hacks last night, oddly enough. # lock -nv lock: unknown option -- v usage: lock [-np] [-a style] [-t timeout] -np

OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Hello all, I'm running OBSD on my older boxes but still Debian on my big box (not ready yet). Linux has SELinux in its 2.6 kernel and debian has gone ahead and compiled SELinux into the libraries, although the SELinux policies aren't ready on debian yet. The whole focus seems to be to make

Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 10:53:05AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: ... Hi Nick. I understand your reasons. To me they look like reasons for separate firewalls on separate boxes. In the scenarios you mention, would you put separate firewalls on one machine

Re: OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 12:20:34PM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: On Sep 22, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Darrin Chandler wrote: On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:34:33AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Linux has SELinux in its 2.6 kernel and debian has gone ahead and compiled SELinux into the libraries, although

Re: lock(1) to lock all virtual terminals?

2007-09-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 06:08:53PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:46:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I don't use X much and instead use lots of Virtual Terminals. Since I'm on dialup, sometimes I need to leave multiple VTs open to do things, perhaps

Re: OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:50:08AM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: On 9/22/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux has SELinux in its 2.6 kernel and debian has gone ahead and compiled SELinux into the libraries, although the SELinux policies aren't ready on debian yet. rhetorical

Re: FW: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-21 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 08:53:02AM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: The One. The one gonad. Get a proper email account you cowardly faggot. Lets not get into WW II morale-boosting songs :) Doug.

Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-21 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Josh wrote: Hello there. We have a bunch of obsd firewalls, 8 at the moment, all working nice and so forth. But we need to add about another 4 in there for new connections and networks, which means more machines to find room for. So basically I have been asked to investigate running

lock(1) to lock all virtual terminals?

2007-09-21 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
I don't use X much and instead use lots of Virtual Terminals. Since I'm on dialup, sometimes I need to leave multiple VTs open to do things, perhaps downloading something, or its just that I'm in the middle of things. How can I lock the whole virtual termial setup? lock(1) only lets me lock

Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-21 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:12:10PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: ... I don't understand the logic of having multiple firewalls on one box. If one box can handle the throughput requirements of all the NICs, why not just one big firewall? There are lots of places

Re: 2 internet connections on 1 router

2007-09-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:43:29PM +0200, Marian Hettwer wrote: However, the old DSL provider tries to get on my ass, and I figured, okay boys, if you don't let me outta this contract, I'll use your uplink to the max 24/7 (while true; do wget -O /dev/null http://something.iso; done). If you

Re: FW: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 11:13:48AM -0400, stuart van Zee wrote: There is no such thing as Solving Security. It does not exist. It could only exist in a perfect world and as you know, or at least should know, this is NOT a perfect world. I have one absolutely secure computer. Actually I

Re: operator permissions: a wish-list

2007-09-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 11:12:33PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/09/19 17:46, Matthew Szudzik wrote: I was wondering if the participants in misc@openbsd.org would help me brainstorm. I want to give the operator group greater permissions than it currently has, so that any member

Re: embedded device

2007-09-18 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:36:54AM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Tang Tse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a soekis 4801 and pf performs only about 28Mb/s I think. I trying to set up a router for about 50-100 users and only with 28Mb/s i hadn't enought there's a

Re: OpenBSD Install Goal

2007-09-18 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 07:00:01PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: I hope one day soon OpenBSD will adopt a nice ncurses setup similar to something like FreeBSD with ease to it. There is no _need_ for a nice curses setup - the current installer already has ease to itw, to put it mildly. In fact,

suggestions for good video card

2007-09-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Hello, I'm transitioning my systems from Debian to OpenBSd. For my older boxes, this is just fine as Xorg comes with great drivers for the video on them. However, my year-old amd64 will need some verifying before I wipe out debian and put on OBSD. Its an AMD Athlon64 3800+ with 1 GB ram,

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 07:55:27AM +0200, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: yes, I tried this before I posted here but no way... it's not working in my case... mmmh... thanks anyway Did you use TERM=screen on both ends of the ssh, i.e. on OBSD before ssh and on linux after ssh? Try TERM=screen.

Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:53:29AM -0700, Jake Conk wrote: I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure. If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall everything or if there is a

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 02:40:03PM -0300, Gleydson Soares wrote: On 9/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On OpenBSD, the default colour term is vt220 so when I ssh to debian, TERM is set to vt220. env TERM=xterm

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 02:54:11PM -0400, Jeff Quast wrote: On 9/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On OpenBSD, the default colour term is vt220 so when I ssh to debian, TERM is set to vt220. Anyway

Re: scanner??

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:01:23AM +0200, Vim Visual wrote: thanks for the answers. I am looking now for a _fast_ epson. The purpose is to be able to scan pictures with a good resolution but, more importantly, to scan *hundreds* of pages... What about a nice digital camera setup with

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:00:25PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 02:54:11PM -0400, Jeff Quast wrote: On 9/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On OpenBSD, the default colour

WARNING: / was not properly unmounted

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
I have recently installed 4.1 on a P-II with an 850 MB drive and 64 MB ram. Right from the first reboot, I get WARNING: / was not properly unmounted The boot then gets delayed during the fsck. I've never had an unclean shutdown, always doing # shutdown -h now or # shutdown -r now I reviewed

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 03:53:11PM +0200, Vim Visual wrote: I had the same problem. I solved it using xterm-xfree86 but now I have a different one. I cannot use backspace to scroll up. The error message is Key is not bound. any idea of how to fix that? Try TERM=screen. I didn't know

Re: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 03:27:20PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Siju George wrote: Can't find a DVD in [snip] As stated in the beginning of this thread, DVD discs are not available, just CDs in DVD case. Yes guys. It was my mistake in my Divine Vast Drewling extase

Re: WARNING: / was not properly unmounted

2007-09-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 04:22:49PM +0300, Evgeniy Sudyr wrote: I have recently installed 4.1 on a P-II with an 850 MB drive and 64 MB ram. Right from the first reboot, I get WARNING: / was not properly unmounted The boot then gets delayed during the fsck. I've never had an

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:23:34AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 05:10:57PM +0200, Eric Elena wrote: I think fat32 is a good choice: you have nothing to install. Did you ever have to debug a deep directory structure where something caused all directory to become

Re: partioning for multiple OS's

2007-09-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:23:30PM -0400, stan wrote: I have a new laptop. It came with Vista on it. I used gpartd to resize those partions, and added Ubuntu. Now I want to add OpenBSD, and FreeBSD. I'd like to do OpenBSD next. When I boot the 4.1 CD, I get to the partioning step, and I

Re: Port to IBM RS/6000?

2007-07-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 12:54:12PM +0100, Timo Schoeler wrote: if there's anyone interested in doing a port to RS/6000, I'd like to donate some hardware for this, e.g. a 7044-170 (Power3-II) machine, or RAM for some 7028 server. I can't do a port but I wish there were one. I have a

Re: Port to IBM RS/6000?

2007-07-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 02:55:32PM +0100, Timo Schoeler wrote: Well, at the moment I have AIX 5.3 on that machine (before that, it was 5.1 with which it was delivered to me). I also tried G*ntoo, but well, *cough* ;) AIX isn't free in any sense. I would be happy if IBM wanted to keep me in

print filter?

2007-07-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I'm wondering what the OBSD people generally use for print filtering. I have an old IBM PC Graphics printer (dot-matrix) attached to my debian box but everyone there seems to use CUPS. I could just as easily connect the printer to my OBSD box. The last time I used this printer to print

Re: print filter?

2007-07-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 07:22:41PM +0200, Adriaan wrote: On 7/14/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering what the OBSD people generally use for print filtering. I have an old IBM PC Graphics printer (dot-matrix) attached to my debian box but everyone there seems to use

Re: Intel Core 2

2007-06-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:45:10PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: On 6/27/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this time, I cannot recommend purchase of any machines based on the Intel Core 2 until these issues are dealt with (which I suspect will take more than a year). Intel

How get IMPS/2 mouse to work with X

2007-06-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
Hello, I'm running OBSD on my IBM 486-DX4-100, 32MB ram. It has S3 video so is using the XFree86 version 3 driver, configured with xf86config. All is mostly well, except that I have a microsoft trackball (I think its called a MS Intellimouse Explorer) mouse with a wheel attached to the standard

Re: How get IMPS/2 mouse to work with X

2007-06-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 09:46:10AM -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: You probably need ZAxisMapping to use the scroll wheel Here's what I do (wsmouse abstracts usb/ps2/etc types): Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol wsmouse

alternatives to sendmail

2007-06-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
Hello, I'm totally new to OBSD and have it installed on my 486 which acts basically like a slim client allowing me to ssh in to my main box. OBSD comes with sendmail which I have never knowingly used before and while it works as-is for local mail delivery, I thought I'd set it up to send

Re: alternatives to sendmail

2007-06-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 03:28:50PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote: Thus [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter N. M. Hansteen) spake on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:17:26 +0200: Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, sendmail is a very steep and tall learning curve. I'm coming from Debian

Re: alternatives to sendmail

2007-06-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:02:08AM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: However, sendmail is a very steep and tall learning curve. I'm coming from Debian (which no longer installes with 32 MB ram) so I'm used to exim. I know that exim is GPL. I'm

Re: flowcharts

2007-05-23 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 08:14:53AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I draw like a crab :-) Also, I suppose I have become spoiled by Visio's ability to quickly draw, redraw and move shapes easily. It is hardly painful at all to make major changes to a flowchart in Visio. Compare that

Re: OT: flowcharts

2007-05-17 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:01:35PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an OT question for you guys. Do any of you use flowcharting software, and if so what do you use? I am just beginning to explore the world of programming and have so far used Microsoft (spit) Visio. I tried both Kivio

Re: Bottleneck in httpd. I need help to address capacity issues on max parallel and rate connections

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:30:41AM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: No swapping is happening, even with 1000 httpd running. load averages: 123.63, 39.74, 63.3285 01:26:47 1064 processes:1063 idle, 1 on processor CPU states: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 3.1% system, 0.8%

Re: [OT] language tricks (was: creating menu's)

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:56:57AM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:34:35PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 01:22:10PM -0700, Bryan Irvine wrote: I need a fairly simple menu, and have thought about just simple selects but figured now

Re: creating menu's

2007-05-08 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 01:22:10PM -0700, Bryan Irvine wrote: I need a fairly simple menu, and have thought about just simple selects but figured now would also be a good time to learn something new as well. It's nothing so complex that I need to go ncurses to do. Just a basic option 1 then

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