Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-04-05 Thread John Long
On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 04:40:20PM -0600, Nick Bender wrote: > I wonder if any FORTRAN programmers out there remember the trick of putting > line numbers after column 72 so the card sort could sort your program back > into order when you dropped your card deck? This was not limited to FORTRAN. We

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-04-04 Thread Nick Bender
Just a couple added memories. Punched cards were my first experience with "copy/paste" - there was a "duplicate card" key on the card machine which would create a duplicate of the card you queued up in the input slot. Of course you could also cut/paste just by moving the card :-). Above the card

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-04-03 Thread Dave Anderson
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, ropers wrote: On 4 April 2016 at 02:06, Adam Thompson wrote: On 2016-04-01 11:07, ropers wrote: And if anyone has ever operated the OpenBSD installer via a teleprinter, I want to hear that story. I think there's still a first-generation TI Silent 700 somewhere in my p

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-04-03 Thread ropers
On 4 April 2016 at 02:06, Adam Thompson wrote: > On 2016-04-01 11:07, ropers wrote: > >> And if anyone has ever operated the OpenBSD installer via a teleprinter, >> I want to hear that story. >> > > I think there's still a first-generation TI Silent 700 somewhere in my > parents' basement. If, w

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-04-03 Thread wmcowan
Adam Thompson writes: > On 2016-04-01 11:07, ropers wrote: > > And if anyone has ever operated the OpenBSD installer via a > > teleprinter, I want to hear that story. > > I think there's still a first-generation TI Silent 700 somewhere in my > parents' basement. If, when they either d

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-04-03 Thread Adam Thompson
On 2016-04-01 11:07, ropers wrote: And if anyone has ever operated the OpenBSD installer via a teleprinter, I want to hear that story. I think there's still a first-generation TI Silent 700 somewhere in my parents' basement. If, when they either die and/or move out to a seniors' residence pr

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-04-01 Thread ropers
Steve Litt wrote: > I was a DEC PDP/11 TSX over RT-11 guy back then, but as I remember, a > terminal was a television that printed letters and numbers plus a > keyboard on which you could type. I have to disagree a little bit in that actual TVs were too low-rez for good 80-column text, which has

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-30 Thread Joseph Pumphrey
On Mar 30, 2016 4:29 PM, "Mihai Popescu" wrote: > > I can see now why our keyboards are using Ctrl key, PgUp, PgDn, or why > the serial port is so close programmed using terminal terminology. > > Thank you and please excuse me for the OT. > I still have IBM 122-key keyboards lying around from wor

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-30 Thread Adam Thompson
On 16-03-30 03:07 AM, Sean Kamath wrote: Still using a Wyse (50?) on my Ultrasparc 80. In college, we had these weird DEC PC’s that we used as VT100 compatible terminals. That would either have been a DEC Rainbow, which was a hybrid-dual-processor 8088/Z80 machine that ran MS/DOS, CP/M *and* ha

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-30 Thread Mihai Popescu
Thank you all for the answers. I can say I got the idea of what a terminal was back then. Reading all your posts and searching again on web using the mentioned keywords move away any if not all of my confusions about "terminals". I can see now why our keyboards are using Ctrl key, PgUp, PgDn, or wh

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-30 Thread Eric Huiban
Sent from my WIKO PULP 4G Le 30 mars 2016 10:07, Sean Kamath a écrit : > > Still using a Wyse (50?) on my Ultrasparc 80. > > In college, we had these weird DEC PC’s that we used as VT100 compatible > terminals. > > There were so many.  The VT100 was the prototype what XTerm emulated. > > Sean

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-30 Thread Sean Kamath
Still using a Wyse (50?) on my Ultrasparc 80. In college, we had these weird DEC PC’s that we used as VT100 compatible terminals. There were so many. The VT100 was the prototype what XTerm emulated. Sean > On Mar 29, 2016, at 5:18 AM, Nick Holland wrote: > Some things to search for: > * DEC V

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:20:35 +0300 Mihai Popescu wrote: > I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX > terminal. I was a DEC PDP/11 TSX over RT-11 guy back then, but as I remember, a terminal was a television that printed letters and numbers plus a keyboard on which you c

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Tuesday 29 March 2016 14:20:35 Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers > here old enough to shade some light in this matter. > I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX > terminal. I have searched google, bu

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2016-03-29, Mihai Popescu wrote: > This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers > here old enough to shade some light in this matter. > I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX > terminal. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_ter

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread ropers
On 29 March 2016 at 14:18, Nick Holland wrote: > * ADM3A (a terminal that was old when the DEC vt100 came out) > I want to add special emphasis to Nick's mention of this terminal. It is more fully known as the LSI ADM-3A. LSI for Lear Siegler Incorporated. This for some reason was yuuugely i

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Tor Houghton
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 08:18:34AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > > * TI Silent 700 ("home oriented" printing terminal. At the time, in the > US, it was illegal to attach non-telephone company equipment to the > telephone company's phone lines...) !! I fondly remember playing Adventure on one of

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Francois Pussault
> > From: Mihai Popescu > Sent: Tue Mar 29 13:20:35 CEST 2016 > To: > Subject: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal > > > Hello, > > This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers > here old enough to sha

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Nick Holland
On 03/29/16 07:20, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers > here old enough to shade some light in this matter. > I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX > terminal. I have searched google, but the word "ter

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 29/03/16 14:20, Mihai Popescu wrote: Hello, This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers here old enough to shade some light in this matter. I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX terminal. I have searched google, but the word "terminal" ass

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 02:20:35PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers > here old enough to shade some light in this matter. > I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX > terminal. I have searched go

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Martijn van Duren
On 03/29/16 13:20, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers > here old enough to shade some light in this matter. > I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX > terminal. I have searched google, but the word "ter

OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello, This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers here old enough to shade some light in this matter. I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX terminal. I have searched google, but the word "terminal" associated with UNIX points most of the time

Re: OT: True hardware UNIX terminal

2016-03-29 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 02:20:35PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > This question is somehow off topic but I know there are some readers > here old enough to shade some light in this matter. > I want to get and idea of what was or is an old true hardware UNIX > terminal. I have searched g