Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Why is this? Is there a security reason why the kernel is
single-thread; is it OBSD resource limitations (no developer time, no
hardware, etc); is it not enough interest yet?
With interface speeds and bus bandwidth going up, how many interfaces is
it possible to handle
Hi,
http://2008.asiabsdcon.org/
Could somebody publish this in Undeadly too please?
Thank you so much
Kind Regards
Siju
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:04:05PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
http://2008.asiabsdcon.org/
Could somebody publish this in Undeadly too please?
Siju:
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=submit
-ME
On 10/10/07, Mike Erdely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:04:05PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
http://2008.asiabsdcon.org/
Could somebody publish this in Undeadly too please?
Siju:
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=submit
Thanks Mike Done :-)
--Siju
Dag Richards wrote:
Blasphemy
Seems to me that the simplest and most flexible way to do this is to
install Linux or Windows as your host OS and use VMware. I do that on
my MacBook Pro running OS X, and run OBSD, Linux, and Solaris as guest
OSes.
Works great, and I can have all of them
* Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-09 22:54]:
Henning Brauer wrote:
* Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-09 19:34]:
then, an i386 kernel should perform considerably better than amd64 for
firewalling/routing/...
That is surprising. What is the reason?
we dunno really. it hasn't
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 16:29 -0700, Ted Unangst wrote:
On 10/9/07, Sean Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does OpenBSD = UNIX? Or, does OpenBSD = Unix? (or unix or unix-like or
etc.)?
does it matter?
It does! UNIX *is* case sensitive! ;)
ciao
Luca
On 09/10/2007, Pierre Riteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aren't all European orders sent by UPS?
Apparently so. CD set arrived yesterday! A pleasant surprise.
Thanks to all involved. Another superb quality release of OpenBSD.
--
Best Regards
Edd
It's a kind of useless and funny XSS... in OpenBSD ;)
http://www.toxahost.ru/images/funny/obsd_xss.JPG
I have seen plenty of QA about multibooting OpenBSD and
Windows/Linux/whatever and although I did a lot of that stuff way back,
I generally don't need it in the days of almost zero cost PC that are
plenty good enough to run OpenBSD.
So why this question? Well I was blessed by a client who had
On 10/9/07, Sean Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does OpenBSD = UNIX? Or, does OpenBSD = Unix? (or unix or unix-like or
etc.)?
my mother recently called it that Unisex thing you like, though am
not sure of the capitalization :)
mike
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:37:55PM +1000, RW wrote:
| Is it at all possible? If so what is the trick? I did flag the new
| MBR entry as active and I can't see anything in the docs that
| contemplates this kind of set-up.
|
| If there is an answer at Mother Google's I cannot construct a smart
|
On 10/9/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-09 19:34]:
then, an i386 kernel should perform considerably better than amd64 for
firewalling/routing/...
That is surprising. What is the reason?
we dunno really. it hasn't been benched in
* Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-10 15:10]:
On 10/9/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-09 19:34]:
then, an i386 kernel should perform considerably better than amd64 for
firewalling/routing/...
That is surprising. What is the
Hey Rod,
Anybody successful at this task?
Somewhat OT, but I used a different approach, as I had enough IDE disks
lying around. I got myself an external USB enclosure with swappable
HDD brackets.
Then, of course, the POS device broke, but that's not the point I am
trying to get across... :-)
The OpenBSD project is loosing sales. I am trying to buy some
tshirts and the 4.2 prerelease but nobody answers my emails at the
Calgary shop.
Please i need someone at the Cshop reply to my emails ASAP.
I am trying to buy the OpenBSD CD for over six months now.
Noone answered my emails when 4.1
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so you think a 20 ton truck is twice as fast as a 10 ton truck?
horizontal or vertical motion? assuming a perfectly spherical truck?
--
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Marcos Laufer wrote:
The OpenBSD project is loosing sales. I am trying to buy some
tshirts and the 4.2 prerelease but nobody answers my emails at the
Calgary shop.
If you had placed an order instead of complaining about it, you would have
your gear already, like the rest
Hello everybody,
I work on BSD 4.1, with i386 hardware.
I'm searching a way to enable a transparent firewall (without ip adress),
probably in bridge mode.., with a capability of NAT. I know the interest is
not evident to nat some computers on the same IP lan, but it's for a client,
so!
It
Siju George wrote:
I thought by running an amd64 kernel will get me twice the speed than
an i386 on an amd64 machine since one is 64 bit processing and the
other is just 32 bit :-(
64 bit processors (combined with 64 bit capable operating systems) have
the ability to address more RAM than
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:24:25AM -0500, Robert C Wittig wrote:
| Siju George wrote:
|
| I thought by running an amd64 kernel will get me twice the speed than
| an i386 on an amd64 machine since one is 64 bit processing and the
| other is just 32 bit :-(
|
|
| 64 bit processors (combined with 64
Robert C Wittig wrote:
64 bit processors (combined with 64 bit capable operating systems) have
the ability to address more RAM than 32 bit processors because 64^2 is a
much larger number than 32^2... lots more RAM addresses).
The increase from 2^32 to 2^64 is even more impressive. ;-)
--Jon
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Cidric THIBAULT wrote:
I'm searching a way to enable a transparent firewall (without ip adress),
probably in bridge mode.., with a capability of NAT. I know the interest is
Hum... bridge and NAT aren't working at the same level. I think you'd
need to set an @ip address and
I want to place an order but i need to pay with paypal. In order
to pay with paypal i need to get in touch with someone at the
Cshop . This are sales OpenBSD is missing, i know a few other people who
also would buy cd's and t-shirts if they could pay with their paypal accounts
- Original
Robert C Wittig wrote:
Siju George wrote:
I thought by running an amd64 kernel will get me twice the
speed than
an i386 on an amd64 machine since one is 64 bit processing and the
other is just 32 bit :-(
64 bit processors (combined with 64 bit capable operating
systems) have
On 10/10/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-10 15:10]:
On 10/9/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-09 19:34]:
then, an i386 kernel should perform considerably better than amd64 for
Not entirely true. I've been checking the USPS Track Confirm
website each day since October 2 when I got my tracking confirmation
via email. Until today the USPS had no record of my shipment.
Finally I have a response:
Your item was accepted at 4:31 PM on October 9, 2007 in SWEET GRASS,
MT
From: Cedric THIBAULT
Hello everybody,
I work on BSD 4.1, with i386 hardware.
I'm searching a way to enable a transparent firewall (without ip adress),
probably in bridge mode.., with a capability of NAT. I know the
interest is
not evident to nat some computers on the same IP lan,
And is it in a vacuum?
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so you think a 20 ton truck is twice as fast as a 10 ton truck?
horizontal or vertical motion? assuming a perfectly spherical truck?
Is OpenBSD UNIX, Unix, unix, unix-like, or ham sandwich on rye?
ECHO Echo echo (echo-like)...
In response to that, one person answered the question with a question. Does it
matter? If answering a question with a question, it'd help to provide a
thought-provoking (worthwhile) question in
Does OpenBSD = UNIX? Or, does OpenBSD = Unix? (or unix or unix-like or
etc.)?
my mother recently called it that Unisex thing you like, though am
not sure of the capitalization :)
mike
I like that explanation best. :)
--
Public Key:
http://mpec.net/gsd.asc
2007/10/10, stuart van Zee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
From:
Hello everybody,
I work on BSD 4.1, with i386 hardware.
I'm searching a way to enable a transparent firewall (without ip
adress),
probably in bridge mode.., with a capability of NAT. I know the
interest is
not evident to nat
Siju George wrote:
snip
so you think a 20 ton truck is twice as fast as a 10 ton truck?
O.K I get it :-)
So when does changing from 32 bit to a 64-bit processor actually help?
Quoting Paul de Weerd,
In short: There is no short answer. It depends on what you're doing.
( Not to mention how you
Nice to hide your local network IP ;)
Do not show it anyone!
On 10/10/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a kind of useless and funny XSS... in OpenBSD ;)
http://www.toxahost.ru/images/funny/obsd_xss.JPG
michael hamerski wrote:
On 10/9/07, Sean Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does OpenBSD = UNIX? Or, does OpenBSD = Unix? (or unix or unix-like or etc.)?
my mother recently called it that Unisex thing you like, though am
not sure of the capitalization :)
From _Wizard's Bane_, Rick Cook, a very
You _may_ be able to apply the following setup (borrowing from
someone else's design :-) :
inside box (1) firewall/bridge doing nat (2)- default
gateway internet
if1 if2
Let's just suppose that if2 has the ip address IP2
On 2007/10/10 20:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice to hide your local network IP ;)
Do not show it anyone!
On 10/10/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a kind of useless and funny XSS... in OpenBSD ;)
Well, it's fixed in -current.
There are better ways to report a bug than
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:48 AM, David Given wrote:
michael hamerski wrote:
The closest I ever came to magic was working with Unix wizards,
said Wiz.
Eunuchs wizards? Did they do that to themselves to gain power?
PHB - My boss says we need some eunuch programmers.
Dilbert - I think he
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:35:30PM +0200, Nico Meijer wrote:
Somewhat OT, but I used a different approach, as I had enough IDE disks
lying around. I got myself an external USB enclosure with swappable
HDD brackets.
Then, of course, the POS device broke, but that's not the point I am
2007/10/10, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 2007/10/10 20:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice to hide your local network IP ;)
Do not show it anyone!
On 10/10/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a kind of useless and funny XSS... in OpenBSD ;)
Well, it's fixed in
On 2007/10/10 11:20, Tony Abernethy wrote:
Siju George wrote:
snip
so you think a 20 ton truck is twice as fast as a 10 ton truck?
O.K I get it :-)
So when does changing from 32 bit to a 64-bit processor actually help?
Quoting Paul de Weerd,
In short: There is no short answer. It
San Diego, CA here... I just got mine yesterday, at the same time I
received my ship notice.
Be patient Kentucky, you'll get it... don't worry...
And Argentina, surely your bank has a debit card or credit card you
can get. Hell, charge up an AMEX gift card and buy it that way.
Those are
On Wed Oct 10 12:51 , Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
San Diego, CA here... I just got mine yesterday, at the same time I
received my ship notice.
Be patient Kentucky, you'll get it... don't worry...
And Argentina, surely your bank has a debit card or credit card you
can get. Hell, charge up
On 10/9/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 08:03:18PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
So, assuming the box is a pure firewall / static router (so just pf and
static routes), even with multiple interfaces, all those tasks run in a
single kernel thread?
Paul de Weerd wrote:
wittig wrote:
| 64 bit processors (combined with 64 bit capable operating systems) have
| the ability to address more RAM than 32 bit processors because 64^2 is a
| much larger number than 32^2... lots more RAM addresses).
Oops! that should have read:
2^64 and 2^32
Not worried. Actually I was just responding to post that declared
instead of complaining about it, you would have your gear already,
like the rest of us. All pre-orders are not created equal. Now that
the USPS actually has them in hand, I anticipate my discs tomorrow or
Saturday.
Gerald
On
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:34:48PM -0500, Robert C Wittig wrote:
| If you had to choose between, say, 2 gig RAM and a 32 bit CPU, or 1 gig
| RAM and a 64 bit CPU, which would be a better choice, in general?
There is no such generalization. The amount of RAM you need depends on
the task. For
On 10/10/07, Robert C Wittig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you had to choose between, say, 2 gig RAM and a 32 bit CPU, or 1 gig
RAM and a 64 bit CPU, which would be a better choice, in general?
64-bit and 1 GB. it's much easier to add another GB RAM later than to
add 32-bits.
2007/10/10, Can Erkin Acar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this case, if you have some web application on the same
*domain name* then the XSS can be used to take control of the
user session on the application. Especially fun for isp/hosting
kind of settings
Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/10/10, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 2007/10/10 20:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice to hide your local network IP ;)
Do not show it anyone!
On 10/10/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a kind of useless and funny XSS...
Robert Urban wrote:
Does anyone know of any others that don't use PHP?
I don't use it myself, but sqwebmail may do what you want.
http://www.courier-mta.org/sqwebmail/
stan wrote:
Is it possible to do this on the one disk. I do have enough space, my
concern is about portions. If it is possible can anyone give me an idea how
best to approach this? Or a pointer to some docs?
I've done what you mention using Acronis Disk Director or Partition
Magic, but
Hello everyone. My situation is this:
i've a laptop, a Sharp pc-ax10 with Windows 2000 preinstalled , without
cdrom, floppy. I wish install OpenBSD on it. Naturally bios can't boot
from USB.
So i've thinked to boot the bsd.rd , but how ? The faq explain the
procedure from an older OpenBSD
I have created some code to handle the winbond W83793G. The design of this
chip is different from other winbond chips, so the normal detection method
did not work, as different registers needed to be queried.
I left out the sensor information for the fans because I could not get
them working. If
Cidric THIBAULT wrote:
I'm searching a way to enable a transparent firewall (without ip adress),
probably in bridge mode.., with a capability of NAT. I know the interest is
not evident to nat some computers on the same IP lan, but it's for a client,
so!
You want to have a bridge that does
On 10/10/07, Gerald Thornberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not entirely true. I've been checking the USPS Track Confirm
website each day since October 2 when I got my tracking confirmation
via email. Until today the USPS had no record of my shipment.
Finally I have a response:
Your item was
* Robert C Wittig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-10 20:45]:
If you had to choose between, say, 2 gig RAM and a 32 bit CPU, or 1 gig RAM
and a 64 bit CPU, which would be a better choice, in general?
for a packet filter/router/...? 32bit 2Gig and take a gig out.
for a databse server? 64bit and add
On 10/10/07, Christopher Bianchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone. My situation is this:
i've a laptop, a Sharp pc-ax10 with Windows 2000 preinstalled , without
cdrom, floppy. I wish install OpenBSD on it. Naturally bios can't boot
from USB.
So i've thinked to boot the bsd.rd , but how
I was very impressed about BootIt NG. Only a few MB in size, bootable
from CD. Resized my Windows partition in less than two minutes. I don't
know if it's still freeware though...
HTH,
Stijn
Steve Shockley wrote:
stan wrote:
Is it possible to do this on the one disk. I do have enough space,
Nick Guenther ha scritto:
On 10/10/07, Christopher Bianchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone. My situation is this:
i've a laptop, a Sharp pc-ax10 with Windows 2000 preinstalled , without
cdrom, floppy. I wish install OpenBSD on it. Naturally bios can't boot
from USB.
So i've
On 10/10/07, Juan Miscaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi. I am running CURRENT on a development server and I have some
questions about building the X portion of a release. First, normally I
don't need Xorg but I regularly use a package that needs the xbase
install set. So before I used to
On 10/10/07 21:37 RW wrote:
Then (the devil made me do it!) I thought: Why not four OpenBSDs as in
Release, Release minus one, current and some experimental stuff. Just
multiboot to whichever and away.
Is it at all possible? If so what is the trick? I did flag the new
MBR entry as active
I'm right with you with that. I just saw that the USPS site light up with my
order too.
India, Oz, NZ, England, all before us.
Puffy, you're such a tease...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Gerald Thornberry
Sent: Wednesday, October 10,
OBSD 4.0, the disk is an IDE disk taken from a long-ago Linux computer put
into a IDE-to-USB disk enclosure.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fsck.ext2 /dev/sd0j
[...]
/dev/sd0j: 503728/7208960 files (3.3% non-contiguous), 9188731/14390223 blocks
umass0: Invalid CSW: tag 904086 should be 904087
sd0: WARNING:
On 10/7/07, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a new laptop that I would like to set up to have 4 different OS's
on. The OS's I would like to install are:
I used to favour the ranish partition manager for creating my primary
partitions and assigning ids. the installers should pick up on the
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:51:26 +0200, Tilo Stritzky wrote:
On 10/10/07 21:37 RW wrote:
Then (the devil made me do it!) I thought: Why not four OpenBSDs as in
Release, Release minus one, current and some experimental stuff. Just
multiboot to whichever and away.
Is it at all possible? If so
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:51:26PM +0200, Tilo Stritzky wrote:
I just got a brand new office PC, 64bit CPU. But I'm stuck with some
Apps in i386 compatibility. So I installed i386 for work. Next week I'm
going to get an USB stick and put an amd64 install on it, for play :)
In Debian amd64
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:44:05AM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote:
On 10/9/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is this? Is there a security reason why the kernel is
single-thread; is it OBSD resource limitations (no developer time, no
hardware, etc); is it not enough interest
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:49:24PM +0200, Christopher Bianchi wrote:
Hello everyone. My situation is this:
i've a laptop, a Sharp pc-ax10 with Windows 2000 preinstalled , without
cdrom, floppy. I wish install OpenBSD on it. Naturally bios can't boot
from USB.
So i've thinked to boot the
Hi Everybody,
I am total a noob in OpenBSD so forgive me for my silly question. In
real life I have a homemade Intel based Workstation/Server and an old
IBM Think Pad laptop both powered by FreeBSD 6.2 stable. I got an old
Pentium III made by Del last weekend originally intended for FreeBSD
Hi,
thanks a lot to Vim for sending me my new shiny CD set, and to
the developers to making this possible.
I just installed on a new server (Supermicro H8SSL-I2) and it seems
not possible to get ACPI recognized (yes, I did enable it). Unpacking
the source from the CD resulted in about 80-90%
One of the sports in answering a question is to figure out what the asker's
true motives are, and what the likely results are going to be if things go
exactly as the asker wishes. Next you try to figure out what the results
are likely to be, regardless of the asker's wishes.
I've known R for a
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:51:26PM +0200, Tilo Stritzky wrote:
I just got a brand new office PC, 64bit CPU. But I'm stuck with some
Apps in i386 compatibility. So I installed i386 for work. Next week I'm
going to get an USB stick and put an amd64 install on it, for
On 10/10/2007, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/10/10, Can Erkin Acar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this case, if you have some web application on the same
*domain name* then the XSS can be used to take control of the
user session on the
Quoting Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
stan wrote:
Is it possible to do this on the one disk. I do have enough space, my
concern is about portions. If it is possible can anyone give me an idea how
best to approach this? Or a pointer to some docs?
I've done what you mention using Acronis
On 10/10/07, Christopher Bianchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nick Guenther ha scritto:
On 10/10/07, Christopher Bianchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone. My situation is this:
i've a laptop, a Sharp pc-ax10 with Windows 2000 preinstalled , without
cdrom, floppy. I wish install
On 10/10/2007, Christopher Bianchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nick Guenther ha scritto:
On 10/10/07, Christopher Bianchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone. My situation is this:
i've a laptop, a Sharp pc-ax10 with Windows 2000 preinstalled , without
cdrom, floppy. I wish install
had a problem with the / partition getting full (105%) on a fileserver
here and then rebooted it. after rebooting the ERR M line came up
immediately after the drive 0 partition 3 message that is normally
followed by the boot prompt. this is an amd64 4.1-release machine and i
can't account for
Hi all,
I wrote a kernel module for my 4.1 OpenBSD kernel. It compiles
normally, but when I try to load it, the modload says:
: undefined reference to `read'
But the read syscall header is declared within my module. Has anyone
ever faced this problem before? Could anyone provide me with some
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Nick Guenther wrote:
Running installboot(8) should
fix it. That means something like:
# cp /usr/mdec/boot /boot
# /usr/mdec/installboot -n -v /boot /usr/mdec/biosboot wd0
Remember to remove the -n if you don't get any errors
from the first run 8-)
On 10/10/07, Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
had a problem with the / partition getting full (105%) on a fileserver
here and then rebooted it. after rebooting the ERR M line came up
immediately after the drive 0 partition 3 message that is normally
followed by the boot prompt. this
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 07:09:35PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
In Debian amd64 Etch (stable), there is no way to use flashplayer (a
32-bit binary plugin that requires a 32-bit browser. To use it, you
have to set up a 32-bit chroot. It never has to boot, just be a
On 10/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If you take the requirement to view a few flash pages at face value,
you're saying that that defeats the whole purpose of OpenBSD and I'm
better off just sticking with Debian for the whole thing.
My mother is an accountant - OpenBSD
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
So, there are some web sites that I need to access that use flash.
Mostly, online product catalogues. Does this mean that I have to use
Debian on my main box to do this since OpenBSD doesn't? Is that more
secure?
At that point, why not just run Windows? The vendor is
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