Re: autoconf error message suggestion

2006-12-13 Thread Marc Espie
Okay, guys, kill it. The main issue I have with Karel is that he lacks basic tact. But saying metaauto lacks some documentation is not necessarily wrong. However, since he's already written opensource software, maybe he could contribute ? I wouldn't object to a set of manpages for metaauto. I w

Re: OT: TinyMCE security and track records

2006-12-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:02:11PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > Sorry for this off topic question, but I get more and more requests to > have WYSIWYG editing on web management servers. I have been resisting > this for many years so far as I hate this, but look likes more and more > demands may

Re: dylan language

2006-12-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 11:42:44AM -0800, Joe wrote: > > Is this for real? I figured if anyone could shed some light on this, an > OpenBSD developer might be able to comment on this "dylan" language. I'm > not looking to learn dylan, but am just wondering if this is legit. I > wouldn't mind run

Re: Spamassassin segfaults

2006-12-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 11:30:27AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > When I clear the stale lock and re-run it, then it segfaults again. Are you > familiar with this problem? I will try yet erasing the .spamassassin directory > (no idea how to erase the db without corrupting the contents of .spamassas

Re: OT Was: Wanted: OpenBSD Systems Administrator

2007-01-03 Thread Marc Espie
For once, I'm going to say this from my position as an OpenBSD developer who has sunk countless hours into writing code for this OS. It's obvious a lot of wankers around here have nothing better to do than start threads based on that job offer. I am perfectly happy with someone posting a job of

Re: Checking out ports

2007-01-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 05:32:00PM -0500, Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed OBSD 4.0 in qemu and now trying to check out src and > ports. I don't have any problems with src but when I try to checkout > ports cvs seems to check out everything, then hangs for a while and > exits with t

Re: Is Theo still hiking ????

2007-01-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 03:17:14PM +, Jeroen Massar wrote: > Also note that FT serves the whole country of France, you might not like > them, but they also have a right to use the Internet ;) Most ISP's get > only a /32 and there are millions of those. Getting a /19 is really > something that o

Re: perl webapp and threads

2007-02-11 Thread Marc Espie
Basically, you're out of luck for now. Tough problem.

Re: qt-mt.pc

2007-02-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 04:41:06PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > Trying to compile twinkle-0.1 I am getting this ./configure error: > checking for qt-mt >= 3.3.0 qt-mt < 4.0... Package qt-mt was not found in the > pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing > `qt-mt.pc'

Re: CUPS

2007-02-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 11:46:54AM +0100, Tang Tse wrote: > Hello, > > I know maybe this is a newbie question ( i came from linux). I tried to set > up openbsd cups printing server for linux workstations. The printer in > question is a HP LaserJet 1320 attached to a usb port. > > The big problems

Re: binary updates

2007-02-27 Thread Marc Espie
The main reason we don't have binary stable updates is that no-one we trust has the time to build them. It means maintaining an extra machine that would only track stable, do builds, do the equivalent of releases. One release every six months is a lot of work already. If people want to provide sta

Re: pkg_add gives error and then installs

2007-03-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:43:52PM -0500, Peter wrote: > export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.0/packages/i386/ > for i in bash \ >wget > do > pkg_add $i > done Don't do that. When you can, don't put pkg_add in a loop, but use the whole list of packages you want to add in

Re: updating installed ports

2007-03-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 11:36:33PM -0500, Peter wrote: > Le Samedi 10 Mars 2007 03:43, Lars Hansson a icrit : > > Peter wrote: > > > Are you serious? I thought that was only for straight packages. It > > > actually fetches code from third party repositories? > > > > What 3rd party repositories? W

Re: pkg_add -ui auto update choses lower version of package by default if there is only one option

2007-03-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 05:50:45PM +0530, Siju George wrote: > Hi, > > I tried today to update my packages with the > > $sudo pkg_add -ui > > command. > > I found that it selected lower versions of the packages automatically :-( > as senn in the sample below. > > > Candidates for updating vim

Re: Contradictory statement on vulnerability

2007-03-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:31:33PM -0800, smith wrote: > OpenBSD developers add code and fix bugs using a program called CVS. CVS has > the ability to create branches like a tree. The main tree trunk is -current. > After a certain amount of time, usually a couple of months before the release >

Re: pkg_add -ui auto update choses lower version of package by default if there is only one option

2007-03-17 Thread Marc Espie
Maybe you built it locally and you are `in advance' compared to the official snapshot ?

Re: Is the PERL in base stock?

2007-03-17 Thread Marc Espie
The perl in 4.1 is not 100% stock, and the one in 4.2 will be slightly farther from that. We have a few minor fixes and adaptations that are not in 5.8.8: - handling of E in various pod converters - path lookup to handle /usr/local along /usr and possibly a few others I'm not too familiar with...

Re: cat.c includes

2007-03-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 02:07:25PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Nick ! wrote: > > > On 3/19/07, hiren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hi all, > > > > > > i found it interesting that cat.c compiles after removing these > > > includes: > > > > > > #include > > > #include >

Re: ODBC on OpenBSD

2007-03-20 Thread Marc Espie
Another possibility is perl. I've been using DBD::Proxy/DBI::Proxyserver across Unix <-> Windows to get an HTML::Mason app directly talking to an Access database, and I'm in the process of migrating it to DBIx::Class (often enough Catalyst). This does just work. The only downside is that you need

Re: groff update?

2007-03-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 08:11:17AM +0200, Gareth wrote: > Is there any chance of a newer version of groff (1.18 or 1.19) being > imported into the tree? Yes

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-03-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 03:28:29PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > Their challenge is that they need to provide choice so they > have what they call reasonable defaults. No, they don't need to provide choice. At least not that many. They decide to do so. That's most of what's wrong with OS

Re: cannot install courier-pop package

2007-03-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 09:30:33PM +, Peter Matulis wrote: > Hi gang. > > I tried to install the courier-pop package on my 4.0 system and it > complains: > > $ pkg_add -v courier-pop3-3.0.5p1.tgz > Error while reading header at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/Ustar.pm line 104. > So it looks like

Re: Binary kernel and base update

2007-04-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:43:56AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all. > > I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on using binary > packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is good, but why > is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than pa

Re: pkg_add -u says "Not updating .libs-$pkg, remember to clean it"

2007-04-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:16:38PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > while doing a 'pkg_add -ui -F update -F updatedepends' on a machine > with the most recent snapshot I could get my hands on, I get the > message > > Not updating .libs-ImageMagick-6.2.6.1, remember to clean it > > for

Re: Unfamiliar (to me only) ports behavior

2007-05-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:11:49AM -0300, John Nietzsche wrote: > I am not playing with sudoers file! This just a bare install. > > $ ls -ld /usr/ports /usr/src > drwxrwxr-x 46 root wheel 1024 May 10 03:21 /usr/ports > drwxrwxr-x 18 root wsrc512 Mar 11 16:19 /usr/src > > Isn't it strange

Re: pkg_add after manually installed stuff

2007-05-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:29:14PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > Lately, mostly with ruby/RoR stuff I've manually installed some things > such as gems. Later, there were ports/packages for these things. Using > pkg_add then fails because files already exists. I've looked at various > -F options,

Re: find -exec {} help

2007-06-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:30:49AM -0700, Bryan Irvine wrote: > On 6/4/07, David B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >hi, I'm using 3.8, and I hate to bother, but I have spent two days on the > >net trying to find the answer to this problem. > > > >I am using 'find' to batch file a sed search and repla

Re: find -exec {} help

2007-06-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:25:00PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > Hello! > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:01:12PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > >[...] > > >Don't use for loops with find results, they do not scale well. > >Also, beware of spaces in file. > >

Re: find -exec {} help

2007-06-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:45:27PM +0200, Almir Karic wrote: > >I don't see any -i option documented in the sed manpage. > > -i on some seds (gsed, ssed, FBSD sed, maybe others) means ''in > place'' edit, that feature can be reimplemented with ''sed '' file > >new_file; mv -g new_file file'' (

Re: libexpat confusion

2007-06-12 Thread Marc Espie
We still haven't enabled expat in base/, because it's not audited enough yet... we `trust' it as an X11 library, but no-one has addressed the multiple security issues it may have. Yes, we do know expat is a problem... we finally removed it from ports/ because it makes no sense to build it once. I

Re: troubles with pkg_add -u

2007-06-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:36:24AM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote: > Since the Hackathon every time I update to the latest snapshots and run > a pkg_add -iuv I get fatal errors with random package updates. > > I usually have to remove by hand (pkg_delete fails) and reinstall the > given package. > > Th

Re: C++ Book

2007-06-26 Thread Marc Espie
C++ is a *big* language. It depends a lot on what you need... Indeed, the Stroustrup book is a good reference, might not be what you need... One very cheap book is `thinking in C++' reasonably good for learning some OO concepts, and dirt cheap (available on the net for free). As far as `interest

Re: pkg_add can't install a package

2007-08-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 04:42:33AM -0500, Will Maier wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 11:48:34AM +0300, Tomas wrote: > > I'm having some trouble installing clamav-0.90.3.tgz package. I'm using > > OpenBSD_4_1. > > My steps: > > 1. export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.1/packages/i386

Re: pkg_add ambiguous description in FAQ 15 ?

2007-08-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 01:10:16PM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Wanting to find out which packages needed an update, I referred to FAQ 15: > "Invoking pkg_add(1) with the -u flag and no package name will just > examine all installed packages for updated versions." > This results here in > > ># pkg_

Re: Get rid of leaf packages

2007-08-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:33:22AM +0200, Karl Sjvdahl - dunceor wrote: > On 8/30/07, Edd Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 30/08/2007, Jona Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You can find it here: > > > http://hcl-club.lu/svn/development/python/cutleaves > > > > This is u

Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 08:52:45AM -0400, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote: >With respect to both you and Eban, I would disagree.. You're entitled to say stupid things. >The law requires complying with the license not preserving it. >The license is a part of the copyrighted work. >It gran

Re: Centralized ports collection server

2007-09-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 04:15:23AM +0200, Adriaan wrote: > On 9/4/07, John Nietzsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear gentleman, > > > > i would like to set a single box in my network to keep syncronized to > > the ports collection infra structure. My ideia is to export the > > directory "/usr/p

Re: /bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:44:24AM +0200, Didier Wiroth wrote: > Hello, > When I do my own release I noticed that a file called [ is created in the > /bin directory: [...] > This file is not present in the official base4x.tgz file (from ftp or cd) I'm afraid you're not paying enough attention

Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words

2007-09-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 07:48:46AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > I have to point out that I have been told on this list by a GPL fan that > the dictionary definition of freedom isn't correct. He was so friendly > to ask me who the hell I was to tell him what freedom means. Freedom > for him did

ambiguous paragraph in your news

2007-09-14 Thread Marc Espie
On http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2007/jul/31/openhal/ you have: -- About OpenHAL OpenHAL is low-level interface software for Atheros 802.11 wireless cards. Previously, Linux-based systems needed a proprietary Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) plus a wrapper driver to make

Re: The Atheros story in much fewer words

2007-09-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 12:33:02PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 03:25:38PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > > I'd love to see how an user who gets a modified binary version has > > > the freedom to modify it. Go ahead. Prove me that it doesn't allow > > > some users

Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

2007-09-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:17:41AM -0400, Eben Moglen wrote: > We will make no more public statements until the work is complete, and > we will be neither hurried nor intimidated by people who shout at us > instead of helping. http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2007/jul/31/openhal/ As I said in

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:08:55AM +1000, The One wrote: > If anyone can solve security, whether it is with "Leopard" or in the > future, Apple definitely can. > > In my opinion, Apple performs 100% in the software field, and 90% in > the hardware field, which is due to, as I explained in my prev

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 01:00:11AM +1000, The One wrote: > Sorry but I am just disagreed with Theo saying that OS X is buggy and > insecure. Whatever. BORED already. Go troll elsewhere.

Re: Does OpenBSD support Hebrew?

2007-09-23 Thread Marc Espie
We do not have full i18n support. The locale stuff in the base system is not finished (I know, I'm late...) Qt has its own locale system, so hebrew should work just fine in all Qt and KDE applications (including right-to-left text). Gnome and gtk also have some support. Vim supports more or les

Re: how can I "find xyz | xargs tar" ... like gtar

2007-09-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:53:13PM +0200, Didier Wiroth wrote: > Using "find ... | xargs tar ..." does not work as expected, as it looks like > xargs invokes the tar command multiple times. man xargs You probably want to override the limit with xargs -n. But actually, since tar is recursive, y

Re: OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
In all my experience, every single complex security policy I've seen has very serious issues. Complexity kills it. There's always a scenario somewhere that someone has forgotten about that breaks stuff. Heck, this even happens with access control systems like PAM. About every 3 months, we hear o

Re: OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
Just for the fun of it, some people subscribe to misc@ from politically correct accounts. So, I got a bounce on my last email, because I was saying that complex security ACLs were fucked up by design. This email is probably going to get blocked too, which is all that they deserve. Fucking reta

Re: Xbox 360 controller at the -current

2007-10-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:26:58PM +0200, Alexander Farber wrote: > Hi, > /bsd: ugen0 at uhub0 port 1 > /bsd: ugen0: "Microsoft product 0x028f", rev 2.00/1.05, addr 2 > /bsd: ugen0 detached > has anyone tried to use it? :-) > (Yes I'd read the news about the "old Xbox" port, > but this here is a

Re: Tackilng multiple versions of autoconf

2007-10-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:50:52AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:52:27AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2007/10/16 16:10, Amarendra Godbole wrote: > > > A peculiar thing I noticed with many ports is they need different > > > versions of > > > autoconf installed

Re: Tackilng multiple versions of autoconf

2007-10-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 07:45:24PM +0200, Landry Breuil wrote: > Hi, > > To be more reasonable (i suppose most ports using autotools in tree > won't change their build scheme before earth blows itself, maybe > because of autotools), i'd like to add my tiny-little p.o.v to this > discussion : > >

Re: package dependencies

2006-06-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:47:40PM +0100, poncenby wrote: > p.s. this question comes from the need to know the exact packages to > download and burn to CD in order to get a reasonably usable desktop > system running gnome, when said system has no connection to the interweb Just use pkg_add !

Re: package dependencies

2006-06-17 Thread Marc Espie
> > Add -r (replace) to the command line. > > > > 2. you mix -current packages and -stable OS. > > I know this quite well (using OpenBSD since quite a while), but you have > to read the previous mail I was responding to. > Marc Espie said that I could use "pk

Re: pkg_add -u not working

2006-06-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 12:03:34AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In my oppinion the tool does NOT WORK like descriped... > Why? If you update from 3.8 to 3.9 it MAY work. > But if a depency was updated or so it totaly fails... > > godfather $ sudo pkg_add -ui > Looking for updates: complete A

Re: Dynamically Increase IPC on OpenBSD ?

2006-06-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:43:59AM +0200, Vincent Blondel wrote: > Hello all, > > I would like to increase some IPC values on my OpenBSD 3.9 box. These > parameters need to be changed for Squid. > > When I look at the current values I receive next result > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/etc/squid] # ipcs

Re: pkg_add -ui - Using Ports except or real Packages?

2006-06-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:10:21PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Or, the other solution, would be enable pkg_add -ui (maybe with another > argument to use Ports) using the Port-system to update. The interface will use PKG_PATH. After all, using ports is just another kind of url, similar to ftp

Re: Recompiling Perl 5.8.6

2006-07-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 12:42:25PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > Is it OK to download perl 5.8.6 (the same that is in OpenBSD 3.9) > then compile it using supplied hints/openbsd.sh and install over the > existing perl? I want GDBM_File and GDBM_File is in perl 5.8.6. > No, you don't know that it i

Re: Recompiling Perl 5.8.6

2006-07-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:40:10AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > Anyways, I can build a GDBM port, it's no hardship, and probably trivial > to do... Committed. Quite simple, seems to work. Much better than recompiling the whole of perl.

Re: pkg_add

2006-07-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 10:58:15AM +0300, Claudiu Pruna wrote: > Hi there, > > Can anybody enlighten me, why in OpenBSD 3.9/i386 with GENERIC #617, > happens the followings: > > > ftp> get bash-3.1.1p0.tgz "|pkg_add -v -" > local: |pkg_add -v - remote: bash-3.1.1p0.tgz > 227 Entering

Re: stopping robots

2006-07-31 Thread Marc Espie
I've got a robots.txt, and a script that loops to infinity. Actually, it's a useful page on the server, there's a list that can be ordered two ways, and switching from one to the other increments a parameter at the end of the invocation. A robot has no business reading that specific page in the fi

Re: infinite tree in qt libraries

2006-08-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 11:01:40AM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > Is this infinite directory tree intentional? Yes. It's a symlink, so tools don't see it. You have to explicitly walk it down yourself. It's needed to simplify some builds which expect the whole of qt to live in a single directory.

Re: mirroring packages without much bandwidth overhead

2006-08-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:40:18AM -0400, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: > On 8/14/06, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 2006/08/14 17:59, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: > >> In which case, the patchlevel needs to be bumped (eg. foo-1.0.tgz -> > >> foo-1.0p0.tgz). > >> No boom here, unless the main

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 01:15:09PM -0700, Jon R H wrote: > There is no way anybody can "win" from any of this! > That's the worst part of it all! > > all BSD's will & are suffering! Nope. I don't see OpenBSD suffering from this, not for real. The BSDs have always been about the code, not the org

Re: OT: Amarok Sound Device

2006-09-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 12:57:52AM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: > Hiya, > > I decided to bite the bullet and test a 4.0 snapshot. Seems great so far. > > Seems the guys over at amarok have replaced gstreamer with xine to decode > compressed formats. In the old gstreamer config section you could spec

Re: figures with magicpoint

2006-09-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 02:18:31PM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > What do I use? I need a spartan simple tool like magicpoint itself. Is > xfig the right choice? What about inkscape? I am somewhat excited with SVG. > Are ther other image manipulation tools out there? I guess gimp woul

Re: Not updating .libs1-gettext-0.16.1, remember to clean it

2008-08-15 Thread Marc Espie
You know, if you go on like that, you're going to end up in my killfile, and a lot of other people as well.

Re: Is there a non-X11 version of Prolog available?

2008-08-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 03:48:54PM +0100, Simon Connah wrote: >>> I've just been trying to install the SWI-Prolog port and it seems >>> like it >>> needs X11 installed to run. Is there a command line version of Prolog >>> floating around at all? Or do I need to compile and install my own >>> co

Re: Stop in line 73 of Makefile

2008-09-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:52:54PM -0700, Doug Milam wrote: > Thanks; I had never set or changed any flags until a few days ago, in trying > to 'fix' this issue. Perhaps someone compromised the system via FTP (ftpd was > running only anonymously), or via HTTP. > > * * Sorry to be harsh, but it

Re: Stop in line 73 of Makefile

2008-09-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:58:54AM -0700, Doug Milam wrote: > >Anything I can do short of re-installing from a CD? I was able to >rebuild the kernel successfully... Make sure you strip any special parameter from each directory and file you have... Depending how much work you did, it may

Re: Weird pkg_info behavior?

2008-10-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:47:56PM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, James Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Slim Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is there a way to get package > >> info for a file not already downloaded or inst

Re: : : Testing rthreads

2008-10-21 Thread Marc Espie
On 2008-10-21, Raimo Niskanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have not seen this in any FAQ. It looks just as when > building patches, but as you say, there are exceptions, > and it is hard to know if this is an exception. It is > also hard to know if it installs as librthread or > as libpthread. Re

Re: pkg_add error: +CONTENTS does not exist

2008-11-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 07:05:56PM +0100, Louis V. Lambrecht wrote: > Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2008-11-05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I been updating packages from 4.3 to 4.4 but my box rebooted due to a >>> power outage and now I'm getting the following error while updating >>

Re: GTK2 - what's wrong?

2008-04-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:54:16AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > Trying to compile a simple example taken from: > > http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/stable/c39.html#SEC-HELLOWORLD > > ...code below... > > #v+ > #include > > int main( int argc, > ch

Re: suggested change to fgetln manpage example code

2008-04-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 05:49:09AM +0200, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > Costs 250$/EUR or something last time i've checked. The electronic version should be available for *ways* cheaper, like $18 or so. There's also a paper book by Wiley & Sons, with the rationale and standard, costing ~50 EUR. ISBN 0

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:49:38AM +0930, Matthew Smith wrote: > Quoth Ted Unangst at 2008-04-09 08:38... >> Nothing beats an 8 year old article for the latest info. OpenBSD now >> comes fully optimized out of the box. > > Yes, I did notice the age, but that was about all that Google had for me. >

Re: Chatting with developers? Is it soo 1996?

2008-04-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:12:08AM -0700, Unix Fan wrote: > I found an old email on the mailing lists, dating back to 1996, when Theo > announced users could connect and chat with the developers on their ICB > server. > > I'm wondering, when did it go private? Why can't users join and chat.. or

Re: poll(2) vs kqueue(2) performance

2008-04-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:43:20AM +0200, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > "Edwin Eyan Moragas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the question is, which one is more useful when writing new servers? > > kqueue or poll? > > poll is more portable, while kqueue should be more performant (at > least, that's

Re: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status....during linking...

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 03:04:23PM -0700, vatocleti wrote: > vatocleti wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > I installed 'gmake' to build a Linux based Makefile that uses 'gcc' and > > when I issue 'gmake' I get the following error: > > > > /usr/bin/ld: my_app.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used wh

Re: E17

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:22:51PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: > Where can i find the E17 port maintainer? > > This info doesn't seem to be in mine, perhaps my tree is borked? make show=MAINTAINER gives you The OpenBSD ports mailing-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> so there you have it.

Re: Rolling release?

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:04:35AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 08:48:47PM -0400, Jason Beaudoin wrote: > > > the devs have been hard at work for many years, and I'd be willing to > > bet that they like the system they've come up with. If they didn't, > > they'd chang

Re: Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M

2008-04-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 01:13:40PM +1000, mufurcz wrote: > Hi, > > We've got a few Lenovo T61 with Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M video cards. > > As far as I know, these cards are based on the GeForce 8400M G or GS > chip set (not an expert), and provides some entry level 3D performance, > more than enoug

Re: web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 09:56:19AM -0300, Vinicius Vianna wrote: > Maybe the best languages for start web development would be PHP and Perl, i > don't know about ruby since i've never used it, but a lot of people talks > nicely about it ;) The current situation sucks a bit. You've got a choice

Re: web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-29 Thread Marc Espie
I am currently running a web site which says http://joomla.* Strangely enough, it's a drupal site, with no joomla at all. (after spending a week of hair pulling trying to coerce joomla to do whatever I wanted, as the `best-of-breed' solution of choice to brain-dead newbies, I settled on a sensib

Re: web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 01:42:05AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: > AFAIK Amazon.com is primarily developed using Mason, an excellent "Perl-based > web site development and delivery engine" - I highly recommend it: > > http://www.masonhq.com/ Yeah, historically, that's been the case. I have absolutely

Re: : web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:10:41PM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 05:15:43PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > > I am currently running a web site which says http://joomla.* > > > > Strangely enough, it's a drupal site, with no joomla at all. > >

Re: : : web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:36:59AM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: > >From which release is Drupal in ports? I can not find it > in OpenBSD 4.1. I know it is time to upgrade but my > installation runs sooo nicely now. 4.3, excellent time to update.

Re: : : web development on OpenBSD (Drupal)

2008-05-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 07:46:06PM +1200, Richard Toohey wrote: > On 30/04/2008, at 7:36 PM, Raimo Niskanen wrote: > >> Oops my bad english. I thought drupal was a for me unknown >> common english word, not a CMS name. It was which CMS >> system you had chosen I was curious to know... > > Which bri

Re: Doubt about license

2008-05-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote: > 1. BSD license is completely free. No one needs to give back changes > forcibly(the GPL way), hence this is completely free. > If what i hear is correct, there are companies(Microsoft) which > take BSD code (network stack i hea

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:16:54AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau > is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made > me realize how much better the driver is. Almost the same, except that my old laptop

Re: Apache suexec problem

2008-05-05 Thread Marc Espie
I've looked a bit at suexec, trying to make it go saner. I still cringe. The model is intrinsically broken, for a lot of reasons. I don't think it's feasible to fix suexec for real. You've got to realize that suexec basically *elevates* a process to root, making its decision on its name and variou

Re: Screen,colorls,xterms issue. 4.2

2008-05-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 07:45:06AM +0200, Jesus Sanchez wrote: > Girish Venkatachalam escribis: >> On 22:20:18 May 10, Jesus Sanchez wrote: >> >>> Hi, I'm using OpenBSD 4.2, a clean install. >>> >>> I have experienced some problems using screen and X with colorsls. The >>> issue is that when I l

Re: Debian libssl security (OpenSSH safe?)

2008-05-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:14:59AM -0500, Sean Malloy wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:37:38AM -0400, Juan Miscaro wrote: > > I guess everyone by now has heard about the very serious libssl > > vulnerability on Debian/Ubuntu? > > > > Just making sure that the source is safe, thanks. > > > > /j

Re: Debian libssl security (OpenSSH safe?)

2008-05-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 09:41:00PM +0400, B A wrote: > Can't find relation between bug in openssl deb package and valgring. > There is no such info in the original link as I see (DSA-1571-1). > Cold you be more specific and informative? > Thank you. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug

Re: updating ports after OS update

2008-05-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:19:12AM +0200, Robert Urban wrote: > # pkg_add -ui -F update -F updatedepends > > What do I need to do about the numerous ports I built and installed? Do > they need to be updated manually? The packages you built manually, assuming you used a virgin ports tree, a

Re: SRC in PKG_PATH ( was Re: updating ports after OS update )

2008-05-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:47:09AM -0700, Ben Calvert wrote: > > On May 16, 2008, at 12:34 AM, Marc Espie wrote: >> >> Or even add a SRC: element to your PKG_PATH as a fallback. > > Marc - where is this documented? i can't find it in pkg_add, package, or >

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 03:23:17PM +, hyjial wrote: > Hi list ! > Reading through OpenBSD's codebase, I have noticed that the code > living > under src/usr.sbin/pkg_add is written in Perl. Perl is distributed > under the Artistic license, though. The latter is not as permissive > as the BSD > l

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 01:42:05PM +0200, Almir Karic wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Marc Espie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as perl goes, it's about the only language that fit the bill. > > The older pkg_* were totally impossible to maintain and

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 07:16:03AM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2008, Marc Balmer wrote: > >> or maybe I should write my next radio clock driver in forth, I heard it is >> fast and small, so I am sure it is the right tool for drivers...) > > YES! > > Marc if you put forth in bas

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:20:50PM -0400, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: > perl offers faster software development. perl is not fast. Just > saying. Althought, I think that's what you meant too. > > # sysctl hw.model hw.physmem > hw.model=SUNW,SPARCclassic, TMS390S10 @ 50 MHz, on-chip FPU > hw.physmem=24

Re: [OT] Python License [WAS: Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?]

2008-05-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 06:23:23PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote: > Hello, > > How about the python license? Not that I'm really capable of rewriting > and/or patching the pkg_* tools but from a license point of view I > think that the license under which python is distributed is quite > similiar to

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