Florin Andrei wrote:
For a number of years, I had an annoying problem with my home-made
videos: After less than a minute of playing, the image starts to
stutter. This is a bit like the stutter due to panning, only continuous
and much worse. It's like the player is skipping every other
makes DV more accessible to
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You also need to install (under Wine) AviSynth and the Panasonic DV
Codec. And the SoundOut AviSynth plugin to generate AC3.
Then you can process DV AVI Type 2 files and generate m2v and ac3 files
out of them, which
close to perfection you have to really
crank up the bitrate to produce any kind of visible changes.
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of the resulting mpeg files?
I verified the bitrates with mplex on almost all DVDs. I verified some
of them on the DVD player, which can optionally display live information
about the video stream. Everything looks fine. I'm not sure what else I
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Florin Andrei wrote:
I'll make another DVD soon and then I'll know for sure. But the cause is
definitely one of the toolchain components, at this moment it's likely
mpeg2enc.
Found the DV master files for an older DVD and re-converted it using HCenc.
No stuttering.
P.S.: Apologies
Mark Heath wrote:
On 23/01/2008, at 5:16 AM, Florin Andrei wrote:
Mark Heath wrote:
Anyway I've been using the mpeg2 encoder in ffmpeg and have been
happy with the results.
I asked recently on their mailing list if they solved the rate control
issues and they said no.
Kind of a big
Mark Heath wrote:
Anyway I've been using the mpeg2 encoder in ffmpeg and have been
happy with the results.
I asked recently on their mailing list if they solved the rate control
issues and they said no.
Kind of a big issue if the target media is DVD.
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Cool. I'll test the next release candidate when it becomes available.
Meanwhile, I went back to 1.9.0-RC2 which appears to work fine for me
with -q 5 -K tmpgenc
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mjpegtools and not ffmpeg to
generate the MPEG2 tracks for quite a few years now is rate control.
Well, last time I checked the image quality was better too, so I'd like
to keep using mpeg2enc for all the MPEG2 encoding.
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I can provide a sample of one of the DV input files, but only by request
and only to the developers - I won't post the URL to the mailing list
because even a short sample can be pretty big.
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, and it's
otherwise around 8000, plus or minus a few hundred, on all other files.
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, in essence, when upgrading from RC2 to RC3, one should just use
higher values for -q, is that right?
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It's
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and the average is fairly low, perhaps half the peak, depending on the file.
I will try again with a higher -q, but RC3 seems to behave very
different from older versions, while RC2 is more similar to the old
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Florin Andrei wrote:
Bernhard Praschinger wrote:
I have made the mjpegtools 1.9.0 RC3 and put it online.
The main fix is that the rate control is not broken any more.
I am getting insane average and peak bitrates with RC3 when transcoding
DV material to DVD-compatible MPEG2. I set the peak
Florin Andrei wrote:
I'm re-runing the whole thing with -q 7
Much better with -q 7 but it still exceeds the limit of 8000 on a few
occasions.
It doesn't seem like rate control is much better, or perhaps I'm
mistaken. It does seem like it requires larger values for -q.
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no interest. Hopefully (I work from home nowadays) I'll have a bit more time
this winter and push mpeg2enc forward again!
I get it. Not enough people contributing to the project. sigh It's a
very nice application thou'. :-(
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Is 2-pass already documented somewhere? (for users, not for programmers)
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Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop.
Now
to avoid
spikes, but I assume 2-pass will be much better and presumably the max
bitrate could be set pretty close to the maximum allowed by the DVD
standard. Right?
This will be a very good feature when it gets released.
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collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [lavplay] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/florin/work/mjpeg_play-cvs-20071106/lavtools'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/florin/work/mjpeg_play-cvs-20071106'
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that.
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Now Search log events
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Moved it out of the way and today's CVS compiles just fine. Sorry for
the false alarm.
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camera.
It's pretty hard to distinguish between the custom matrix and tmpgenc.
They pretty much look the same to me.
Both are clearly better than the default and the hi-res matrices, which
have massive (by comparison) artifacts and blockiness.
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Florin Andrei wrote:
I can probably test it also on Ubuntu 7.10, I'll see what I can do about
that.
CVS compiles fine on 7.10 if I use the same -lX11 patch.
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So, do a 'cvs update', rebuild and commence testing.
I said this before - you guys should make releases way more often. Very
few people are going to track the CVS.
BTW, if I'm using 1.8.0 (default on Ubuntu), what do I get if I upgrade
to 1.9.0 RC1?
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Steven M. Schultz wrote:
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I said this before - you guys should make releases way more often. Very
Of what? Broken software? No sense doing a release for the last
year or whatever since it was broken. And now it _may_ be fixed
-A|--ratecontroller
What's the difference between 0 and 1?
Ever played with larger values for -r when the source is a fairly good
(new) DV camcorder? Worth bumping it up?
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25,26,28,29,31,34,38,42
# TMPEGEnc NON-INTRA table
16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23
17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24
18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25
19,20,21,22,23,24,26,27
20,21,22,23,25,26,27,28
21,22,23,24,26,27,28,30
22,23,24,26,27,28,30,31
23,24,25,27,28,30,31,33
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are usable as an HD source for Linux? Not just with
dvgrab, but in general.
What are the HD formats that can be used on Linux?
What are the options for editing? (Cinelerra? Jahshaka?)
Authoring?
Burning HD disks?
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difference, in terms of encoding speed, if
I use the 64 bit OS instead of 32 bit. Otherwise I don't care much for
64 bit, and actually a lot of multimedia stuff (Flash, playing
proprietary codecs, etc.) is much easier on 32 bit.
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more back and forth and catch again the frames
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Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated
Based on mpeg2enc:
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On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:59:31PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
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It seems that you use transcode for decoding DV. Also I think
that transcode still uses libdv. Which means that you're
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I want to generate a static MPEG2 video stream that's compatible with
the DVD specifications (either NTSC or PAL). I can deal with the MPEG2
and DVD part, I just don't know how to generate a YUV that has the same
image repeated over and over.
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, it's still pretty usable. Only the conv-dvd file
needs some small updates, see the attached file to this message.
I just sent an email to the person who maintains that page and asked for
permission to make updates to the HOWTO.
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Description
On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 15:12 -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
achieve its means. At least that was the intent of the original author,
Thomas Ostreich, and it's lieutenant (and successor to maintainership)
Tilmann Bitterberg.
his not it's
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On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 23:24 -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Florin Andrei wrote:
But some older mjpegtools versions never had this issue, even at 8500,
No, they had the problem. I recall various postings with 8500 and
the advice was the same then as now ;)
Well, look
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On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 17:20 -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
FWIW, I was thinking to try out rc3 with:
- Fedora 4
- gcc-4.0.1
- transcode-1.0
- reasonable settings for DV-to-DVD conversion
Actually, I'm concerned with an issue that I've seen before with MPEG2
streams generated with mpeg2enc
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 19:39 -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Florin Andrei wrote:
FWIW, I was thinking to try out rc3 with:
Where have you been for the last several months? ;)
Dividing my time between a million things I _must_ do. Playing with
mjpegtools is something
. Plain old digital camcorder, captured via dvgrab.
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Too bad, since it's the best open source MPEG2 encoder I'm aware of.
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On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 08:53 -0800, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Florin Andrei wrote:
It seems like mplex can only handle differences up to a certain value
(around 200ms or so), after which it will not create a correct file. Yet...
I think the Real Problem is that you're
at
the expense of the 1080i native ones (CRT), one would expect the
stations to start broadcasting more using 720p.
Anyway, i'm wandering off topic...
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It's not easy to test other players.
Depends where you live I guess. It's been trivial to take a couple
test DVDs to the local Circuit City (or Best Buy or whatever) and
ask to play a disk
what you
wrote here:
# MP2 sound
# -y mpeg2enc,mp2enc -b 224 -m $out \
The sampling rate of 44.1kHz is not liked by my player.
It certainly is 48kHz, that's what my camcorder generates.
In any case, i'm using AC3, not MP2.
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On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 09:18, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004, Florin Andrei wrote:
Neither. I upgraded to 1.6.2 when it was released, and the player is a
bit over one year old already.
Ah, so you haven't created very many (any) DVDs since going to 1.6.2?
Not too many. That's
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http://zebra.fh-weingarten.de/~transcode/docs/DV-to-DVD-HOWTO.txt
It describes a method slightly different than yours, but it has some
comments on what are the do's and don'ts of DVD player
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with silence or clicksnoise) ? a52dec decodes it w/o problems, so
the error in the file seems to be minor.
I got this problem once. The AC3 stream seemed otherwise valid (it was
extracted from a DVD), but mplex didn't accept it.
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- there's a -D|--intra_dc_prec8..11 in the summary that has no
correspondent in the detailed section
man mplex:
- says in the BUGS section that The multiplexer should handle AC3 and
MPEG(5.1) audio too but i was able to multiplex AC3 with it correctly,
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On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 18:03, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 29 Nov 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
In file included from export_yuv4mpeg.c:42:
/usr/include/mjpegtools/yuv4mpeg.h:29:25: mjpeg_types.h: No such file or
directory
/usr/include/mjpegtools/yuv4mpeg.h:33:27: mjpeg_logging.h
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 17:23, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 4 Jan 2004, Florin Andrei wrote:
MPEG2 without B frames makes some DVD players choke. The default
What player is so braindamaged and standards non-compliant as to
choke on an *optional* part of the MPEG-2 specs? (B frames
is, well, almost non existent - ~2x spikes that'd drive
a hardware player nuts).
Any chance repeating that on an Intel or AMD processor?
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sui-generis video unit, because when i author my DVDs quite often i put
each scene into its own chapter on the DVD.
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Using -g 1 might trigger hiccups on certain hardware DVD players
Just to note that there is actually no real purpose to setting -g 1 for DVD or
other reasonably rate limited streams
to be fine.
I didn't try to add just -g 1 but it looks kinda pointless.
Results seem to stay the same with different matrices, with adding -N
and/or -E, etc. Of course, i didn't test quite _every_ combination.
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of it, the high-motion
scenes are quite a while after the start.
Is it likely that i'll run into trouble with a average higher than max
DVD played on set-top boxes?
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be to adjust the return value of posix_memalign(). The long term
fix is to upgrade glibc of course ;)
Well, mine is glibc-2.3.2 which is pretty new, and mplex -O still fails.
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On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 09:04, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 26 Nov 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
Is there any conflict if i use -H and -E simultaneously?
No conflict at all. -E processing is done after the quantization
tables have been used.
Ah, ok.
So, since we're at look at the preview
to these questions (if any) to the mpeg2enc man
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On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 01:52, Florin Andrei wrote:
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 08:28, Ronald Bultje wrote:
As of today, release candidate 2 of mjpegtools-1.6.2 (official version:
1.6.1.91) is available on your local sourceforge mirror. For URLs, see
mplex -h does not work according to manual
I'm not sure i understand how -E works, so...
Is there any conflict if i use -H and -E simultaneously?
If not, does it make sense from a logical p.o.v. to use them both?
Does -H override -K, or the other way 'round?
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Whenever that makes sense (such as what are default values, etc.),
please add the answers to these questions (if any) to the mpeg2enc man
page. Thank you.
Actually, it would be great if the man page would specify all default
values (wherever
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 08:11, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 26 Nov 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
mplex -h does not work according to manual. Instead of activating the
--keep-hf, it prints the usage help. :-)
mplex has no --keep-hf option.
mpeg2enc has a -H option which is the same as --keep-hf
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On Monday 24 November 2003 06:06, Florin Andrei wrote:
mplex -f 8 -S 150 -O 500 ${proj}.m2v ${proj}.ac3 -o 1.vob
mplex -f 8 -S 150 -O -500 ${proj}.m2v ${proj}.ac3 -o 2.vob
Then i compare the sync info on the two VOBs like
small it cannot be detected) than what mplex was
supposed to do (half a second difference, which is very big and easily
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I created many DVDs with mpeg2enc, mplex and dvdauthor, and i've seen no
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fixed. Basically,
the -O offset itself has an offset due to a bug in the handling of the
temporal reference of the first frame...
Ah, that explains it. Probably the software players get confused by
that.
So, the CVS should fix the issue, right?
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On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 09:47, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 15 Nov 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
An MPEG2 stream with I-frames only... wouldn't that be something
slightly similar to MJPEG?
Similar is concept yes. Both are lossy compression methods.
Nice thing about a GOP size of 1
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:46, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
To get 'I' frame only encoding I thought the method was to
specify the min and max GOP size to be 1.
An MPEG2 stream with I-frames only... wouldn't that be something
slightly similar to MJPEG?
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grep dvd_reader.c | \
cut -d \) -f 2 | \
cut -c 2-
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no problem though.
So, essentially you're saying that MPEG2 without B-frames is perfectly
legal from the DVD standards p.o.v., right?
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On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 06:14, Andrew Stevens wrote:
-f 8 -E -10 -q 6 -R 0 -I 0 -K tmpgenc
Hmmm... I'm using 1.6.1.90 and i cannot find some options (-E, -10, -R)
in the man page nor in the --help output.
Are you using a recent CVS or something?
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On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 13:53, Alexei Dets wrote:
Can we expect a stable _release_ version anytime soon?
Or at least a 1.6.1.91 type of thing... ;-) When CVS seems healthy
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On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 13:07, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 11 Nov 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
So, essentially you're saying that MPEG2 without B-frames is perfectly
legal from the DVD standards p.o.v., right?
They are, and always have been, optional. Nothing says that B
frames
.
However, the vast majority of the newer DVD players will happily play
both formats, even when they only advertise one of them. Strange, isn't?
On the side of the old-ish players, DVD-R has slightly bigger chances to
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to make a dvd image. However, dvdauthor
complains:
You're probably misled by that broken man page.
The option to use with dvdauthor is -f 8.
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On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 10:54, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 20 Oct 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
mplex -f 8 -S 4400 ${proj}.m2v ${proj}.ac3 -o ${proj}.vob
The way I do it doesn't need a mplex run at the end.
mplayer -dumpstream dvd://1
Right. Or:
tccat -d 0 -i /dev/dvd -t
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:35, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 21 Oct 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
The problem is, what happens if it's still too big? (larger than the
space available on the destination DVD)
Sometimes you need to shrink the m2v part. Is there a way to shrink it
without actually
. But the
error shouldn't happen anyway.
In any case, the problem occurs with only one DVD. Other disks that i
tried are fine. The weird thing is, that DVD is otherwise Ok, it can be
played anywhere.
Clue, anyone?
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On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 19:54, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
On 6 Oct 2003, Florin Andrei wrote:
this procedure forces blocks of a type that don't carry much
information but are expensive to encode to be simply skipped
If they are skipped at encoding, with what do they get replaced when
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 11:34, Florin Andrei wrote:
Any idea how to cut the first 10 frames of an AC3 file and save them
into another file, without modifying any of the audio stream parameters?
(bitrate, # of channels...)
Nevermind, i found two solutions:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive
Any idea how to cut the first 10 frames of an AC3 file and save them
into another file, without modifying any of the audio stream parameters?
(bitrate, # of channels...)
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