Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-19 Thread Jim Smith
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:09:25AM +0100, Tom Bille wrote: The aim of the cookie example in the eagle book is a bit more than just authentication. Most of the answers here to use a session ID here are quite right for most purposes, but the code in the eagle book offers to store information

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-16 Thread Joe Breeden
. --Joe Breeden --- If it compiles - Ship It! Aranea Texo -Original Message- From: David Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cookie authentication I don't think

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-16 Thread Kyle Oppenheim
session from the cookie. Pretty nifty trick. - Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Young Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cookie authentication I don't think that really solves

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-16 Thread Rob Nagler
If you happen to type in a URL, they can revive your session from the cookie. Pretty nifty trick. This would seem to be a security hole to me. URLs appear in the logs of the server as well as any proxy servers along the way. If the URL contains reusuable auth info, anybody accessing any of

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-16 Thread David Young
] Organization: bivio Software Artisans, Inc. http://www.bivio.net Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:22:02 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cookie authentication If you happen to type in a URL, they can revive your session from the cookie. Pretty nifty trick. This would seem to be a security

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-16 Thread Kyle Oppenheim
If you happen to type in a URL, they can revive your session from the cookie. Pretty nifty trick. This would seem to be a security hole to me. URLs appear in the logs of the server as well as any proxy servers along the way. If the URL contains reusuable auth info, anybody accessing

Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread John Michael
This may seem off subject but, If you bare with me, I don't think it is. I am interested in using the cookie based system referred to in the programming the apache api book but oftend wonder this. Can you count on everyone to use cookies. It seems that some surfers are afraid of cookes are

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Charles Day
John, We rolled out cookie authentication (Auth::Cookie)for our secured support website around Jan 2001and we never received one complaint (and our people complain about everything:) It seems you can't do anything online without having cookies turned on ( yahoo, bankone, huntington, ebay

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Ken Y. Clark
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, John Michael wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:02:04 -0600 From: John Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cookie authentication This may seem off subject but, If you bare with me, I don't think it is. I am interested in using the cookie based

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, CDIt seems you can't do anything online without having cookies turned on CD(yahoo, bankone, huntington, ebay, etrade ) and I think internet users CDhave accepted this. Not those clever European governmental folks, though. http://www.vnunet.com/News/107416

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Perrin Harkins
I seem to recall at least one major Apache module having an option to use URL-based authentication instead of cookie-based... but I can't seem to find that from a cursory perusal of CPAN. Apache::ASP does this. - Perrin

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Joe Breeden
--- If it compiles - Ship It! -Original Message- From: Andrew Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:17 PM To: Charles Day Cc: John Michael; mod_perl List Subject: Re: Cookie authentication Hello, CDIt seems you can't do anything online

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread peter
On 15 Nov 2001, at 12:16, Andrew Ho wrote: CDIt seems you can't do anything online without having cookies turned on CD(yahoo, bankone, huntington, ebay, etrade ) and I think internet users CDhave accepted this. Methinks there is a need to write a transparent store cookies on URL module. I

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Joe Breeden
--- If it compiles - Ship It! Aranea Texo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:25 PM To: mod_perl List Subject: Re: Cookie authentication On 15 Nov 2001, at 12:16, Andrew Ho wrote: CDIt seems

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Perrin Harkins
Here we insert a session id on all requests, with Apache::Session whether the request is for a static or dynamic page and have a TransHandler to strip the session id and insert it into %ENV which seems to work for us. With this approach we don't necessarily need cookies, but verifying if a

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Bill Moseley
At 02:02 PM 11/15/01 -0600, John Michael wrote: This may seem off subject but, If you bare with me, I don't think it is. I am interested in using the cookie based system referred to in the programming the apache api book but oftend wonder this. Can you count on everyone to use cookies.

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread John Michael
, November 15, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Cookie authentication On 15 Nov 2001, at 12:16, Andrew Ho wrote: CDIt seems you can't do anything online without having cookies turned on CD(yahoo, bankone, huntington, ebay, etrade ) and I think internet users CDhave accepted this. Methinks

RE: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Joe Breeden
:52 PM To: Joe Breeden; mod_perl List Subject: Re: Cookie authentication Here we insert a session id on all requests, with Apache::Session whether the request is for a static or dynamic page and have a TransHandler to strip the session id and insert it into %ENV which seems to work

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Bill Moseley
At 05:20 PM 11/15/01 -0600, John Michael wrote: Thanks. I did not know that you could verify that someone has cookies turned on. Can you point me to where i can find out how to do this? Is there a variable that you can check? You set a cookie and do a redirect (if you need the cookie right

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Perrin Harkins
Excuse my question if it seems dumb I'm not 100% on NAT and proxies, but the Eagle book says to 1 Choose a secret, 2 Select fields to be user for the MAC. It also suggests to use the remote IP address as one of those fields. 3 Compute the MAC via a MD5 hash and store in the clients browser.

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread David Young
something or go to a sensitive area, you are asked to sign-in and sent a cookie over https. From: Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:40:03 -0500 To: Joe Breeden [EMAIL PROTECTED], mod_perl List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cookie authentication Excuse my question

Re: Cookie authentication

2001-11-15 Thread Tom Bille
The aim of the cookie example in the eagle book is a bit more than just authentication. Most of the answers here to use a session ID here are quite right for most purposes, but the code in the eagle book offers to store information on the client side with the security of a signature. Its NOT