Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-24 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > At 20:08 23/11/1999 +, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >What sucks is it's MS lock-in. To create a .ico file you have to have a > >Windows machine. So webmasters now have to have windows machines to work > >with this concept. Had it been .png I would have felt

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-24 Thread Joe Pearson
, then the mail went out. Joe Pearson -Original Message- From: Tim Tompkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Another IE5 complaint >Is this horse dead yet?!? I don't know, but let

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-24 Thread Ruben I Safir
SWQAAK Tim Tompkins wrote: > > Is this horse dead yet?!? I don't know, but let's kick it an' see if it > squeels! > > Thanks, > > Tim Tompkins > -- Ruben I Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brooklynonline.com Manager of Intranet Development NYU College of Dentistry Resume: http://

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Tim Tompkins
CTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 4:10 AM Subject: RE: Another IE5 complaint > -Original Message- > From: Rod Butcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 23 November 1999 10:20 > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Another IE5 complaint &

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Fabrice Scemama
Most of my users are .fr people. My logs show more than 70% of them as IE users. MS is clearly in the process of enjoying one more monopolistic situation. People just don't download Netscape. What's more surprising is the enormous proportion of IE5 users over IEx users. Seems to me that if we let

RE: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Stephen Anderson
> -Original Message- > From: Rod Butcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 23 November 1999 10:20 > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Another IE5 complaint > > > Am I the only battling service vendor who actually feels good when > somebody bookmarks my w

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Robin Berjon
At 20:08 23/11/1999 +, Matt Sergeant wrote: >What sucks is it's MS lock-in. To create a .ico file you have to have a >Windows machine. So webmasters now have to have windows machines to work >with this concept. Had it been .png I would have felt differently. Not that I want to make this alrea

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread darren chamberlain
A really cheesy 6-year old 16-bit icon making application and WINE will do it. darren Matt Sergeant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > What sucks is it's MS lock-in. To create a .ico file you have to have a > Windows machine. So webmasters now have to have windows machines to work > with this concept.

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > Rod Butcher wrote: > > > > Am I the only battling service vendor who actually feels good when > > somebody bookmarks my website ? > > I can absorb the overhead of accesses to a favorites icon. > > This may be a security hazard for the client, but I d

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Ruben I Safir
That would only work for unix? Or will that mess with windows as well? Tom Christiansen wrote: > > >Are you going to > >complain about all the 404 errors in your log, or are you going to use a > >simple RewriteRule to give people the information they are seeking? > > Well, in the Microsoft ca

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Tom Christiansen
>Are you going to >complain about all the 404 errors in your log, or are you going to use a >simple RewriteRule to give people the information they are seeking? Well, in the Microsoft case, I'd probably dynamically rewrite the link to file:///dev/mouse or file:///dev/zero, if that made any sense

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
Jeff Stuart wrote: > Jeffrey Baker wrote: > > What he said. I don't see what sucks so much about burning a few bytes > > of bandwith to have your site's big fat icon on the user's desktop! And > > it isn't like they made up an HTTP ICON request type, they are using > > standard methods to get th

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
Rod Butcher wrote: > > Am I the only battling service vendor who actually feels good when > somebody bookmarks my website ? > I can absorb the overhead of accesses to a favorites icon. > This may be a security hazard for the client, but I detect a > holier-than-thou attitude here against M$. > Wi

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Steven Champeon
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > Is this sort of thing implimented in Netscape? Is rev and rel > implemented in any fashion? It's not implemented for favicon, no. But LINK REL is supported by Navigator for external CSS stylesheets, for example. That's the only use I know of, th

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Ruben I Safir
Is this sort of thing implimented in Netscape? Is rev and rel implemented in any fashion? -- Ruben I Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brooklynonline.com Manager of Intranet Development NYU College of Dentisty Resume: http://www.wynn.com/jewish/resume.html Perl Notes: http://www.wynn.co

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Craig Shaver
IE 4/5 hits are more than 50% of the http://translator.go.com/ site I am working on, and I make sure I serve up a favicon.ico to all of thos guys. I get lots of bookmark requests and love it. Rod Butcher wrote: > > Am I the only battling service vendor who actually feels good when > somebody bo

RE: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Eric Cholet
> Am I the only battling service vendor who actually feels good when > somebody bookmarks my website ? > I can absorb the overhead of accesses to a favorites icon. > This may be a security hazard for the client, but I detect a > holier-than-thou attitude here against M$. > Will somebody tell me wh

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Steven Champeon
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Rod Butcher wrote: > Am I the only battling service vendor who actually feels good when > somebody bookmarks my website ? No. > I can absorb the overhead of accesses to a favorites icon. So can I. > This may be a security hazard for the client, but I detect a > holier-than

RE: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Tubbs, Derric L
of info about this on the net if someone wants to read how to implement it the M$ way. > -- > From: Rod Butcher[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 4:20 AM > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-23 Thread Rod Butcher
Am I the only battling service vendor who actually feels good when somebody bookmarks my website ? I can absorb the overhead of accesses to a favorites icon. This may be a security hazard for the client, but I detect a holier-than-thou attitude here against M$. Will somebody tell me why this M$ in

RE: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-22 Thread Fulko Hew
Joe Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe everyone already knows this, but I just discovered that > whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys > to GET favicon.ico from the same site. Therefor I have hundreds of > "File does not exist:" errors in my log file. C

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-22 Thread Robin Berjon
At 15:10 22/11/1999 -0500, Vivek Khera wrote: >Why not just create a 10Mb large favicon.ico file for their >convenience? ;-) ;-) I played around with that idea, but most ICO files are really small, and it seems that they thought of that and do not download if it is over a few k (perhaps even less

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-22 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, Joe Pearson wrote: > Hi all, > > Maybe everyone already knows this, but I just discovered that > whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys > to GET favicon.ico from the same site. Therefor I have hundreds of > "File does not exist:" errors in my

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-22 Thread Steven Champeon
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Joe Pearson wrote: > Maybe everyone already knows this, but I just discovered that > whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys > to GET favicon.ico from the same site. Therefor I have hundreds of > "File does not exist:" errors in my log file. Oh,

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-11-22 Thread Vivek Khera
> "JP" == Joe Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JP> Maybe everyone already knows this, but I just discovered that JP> whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys JP> to GET favicon.ico from the same site. Therefor I have hundreds of JP> "File does not exist:" err

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-10-03 Thread Fabrice Scemama
Greg Stark wrote: > (snip) > > Can the gimp save .ico files? How big and what colours etc does IE5 > expect > these to be anyways? > > -- > greg the GIMP can do it. It's a GIcon; should do the trick to win32 users. But why should we give IE5 favicon.ico's anyway ? sounds like another ms-made b

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-10-02 Thread Randy Harmon
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 03:21:17PM -0400, Greg Stark wrote: > "Joe Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [] > > whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys > > to GET favicon.ico from the same site. Therefor I have hundreds of > > "File does not exist:" errors in my

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-10-02 Thread Greg Stark
"Joe Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all, > > Maybe everyone already knows this, but I just discovered that > whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys > to GET favicon.ico from the same site. Therefor I have hundreds of > "File does not exist:" errors in

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-10-01 Thread jcr
I used mod_rewrite to map favicon.ico to a 0 byte file. On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Joe Pearson wrote: > Hi all, > > Maybe everyone already knows this, but I just discovered that > whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys > to GET favicon.ico from the same site. Therefor I

Re: Another IE5 complaint

1999-10-01 Thread Pouneh Mortazavi
see http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/19160.html On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Joe Pearson wrote: > Hi all, > > Maybe everyone already knows this, but I just discovered that > whenever a IE5 user visits a page in their "Favorites", IE5 also trys > to GET favicon.ico from the same site. The