Re: [MOSAIC] reading conferences, a bit long

2007-07-17 Thread Debbie Goodis
Elisa, As I read different ideas from the list serve and in the book, On Solid Ground, I learned that the students have their own notebooks. They have the responsibility of using them during reader's workshop. I did this a little last year. Each child had a Reading Response Notebook and they

Re: [MOSAIC] Complacency vs. Implementing What I've Le arned

2007-07-17 Thread Beverlee Paul
I would also like further info on this fascinating story. It reminds me of a movement in France at about the same time as Dewey which was led by a man named Freinet. I can't remember the correct spelling, though. It was fascinating because these French teachers banded together to develop

Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-17 Thread Patricia Kimathi
Can anyone tell me where I can find the silent reading rates per grade level Pat Kimathi to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never stop

Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency versus Automaticity and comprehension - low readers all ...

2007-07-17 Thread Patricia Kimathi
Where did you find the reader's theater for ELL ??? Pat K to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting. e.e. cummings On Jul 8,

Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-17 Thread CNJPALMER
The QRI-4 manual has them...I would get them for you but I can't get into my room right now...they are cleaning! Jennifer Maryland In a message dated 7/17/2007 5:05:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone tell me where I can find the silent reading rates per

[MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Repeated Readings

2007-07-17 Thread Linda Buice
Hi everyone, A few days back the conversation was about special education and how to help those kids. I believe Bonita was talking about it. There is a site that may help. It is Intervention Central. Take a look - we use it for special needs kids.

[MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Publishing Kids Writing

2007-07-17 Thread Linda Buice
Hi Kim, I believe that the children's magazine Cricket does publish children's work. I don't know how to submit, but I know they can. Linda Buice ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go

Re: [MOSAIC] Comprehension when Oral Reading vs. Silent Reading - DRA

2007-07-17 Thread Carol Carlson
Our instructional facilitators make sure to model retelling for first grade teachers by using the words, the main characters in the story are, the most important event or the problem. Or they use, first this happened, then this happened in the middle; then this happened in the end. They

Re: [MOSAIC] reading conferences, a bit long

2007-07-17 Thread kimberlee hannan
I would do that too. I made a bunch of stickies with Pass This Out on them. Slapping them on a pile. It's great the way they pick up the routine. Also, when I pass back notebooks, I spread them out on the floor. I put on some music with a beat. It's a fun way to start the morning, walking

Re: [MOSAIC] Complacency vs. Implementing What I've Le arned

2007-07-17 Thread Renee
Asking for all to be on the same page and expecting that teachers will be doing what is best for their students is contradictory. Renee On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:23 PM, ljackson wrote: I work in a district with nine schools and I have to say, this will not work for us. Our children, spread

Re: [MOSAIC] The Three Questions

2007-07-17 Thread Goobk12
I have just read this book after seeing someone on the list recommend it as a good book for teaching. Please give me some ideas using this book with a writing / strategy mini lesson. I really liked the book and was wondering how I could use it in a K-3 classroom.

Re: [MOSAIC] Comprehension when Oral Reading vs. Silent Reading - DRA

2007-07-17 Thread Nancy Hagerty
Here is some further explanation of what I did when administering the DRA2 during the later part of the year. I wanted to make certain first and foremost that my little kiddos understood what I was asking them to do. Their beginning of the year attempts told me that they were not

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread tdbell
Hi, I have been listening to the conversation about silent vs. oral reading comprehension. Many of you seem to feel that students understand better when they read orally and I agree with students that are reading on grade level or above. However, my struggling readers frequently don't get it

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Renee
Tammy, What I think is that we really can't know what is going on in a child's mind. But I can speak for myself: When I am not fake reading (and yes, I can do that too), I understand what I am reading silently much more than what I am reading aloud. That's if all things are equal, of

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Kerry Lewis
I have seen what you describe as well!!! It really helps some students to read aloud. Though I think this oral vs. silent reading dilemma varies from person to person. I personally comprehend much better when I read silently! I can remember this even from when I was in school. I would

Re: [MOSAIC] Off topic (OT): Japanese Lesson Study

2007-07-17 Thread Bonita DeAmicis
Hi Bev, Well, I sent some info to somebody, but now, of course, I cannot find the email that I sent so here is some starter info for people who wish to learn more about Japanese lesson Study. Stigler and Heibert wrote a book called The Teaching Gap which discusses the TIMMS international

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Bill Roberts
- Original Message - From: tdbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems like they are much more focused when they are reading out loud. I think when they are reading silently their minds wander more or they may just be fake reading. I know for myself even (and I am a very fluent reader)

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Cathy Durham
Don't you think this could be a function of individual learning modality? I personally am a visual learner, and even my kids tell me to Write it down, Mom, if they want me to remember something they've told me, so that I'll have a visual reference. My daughter, on the other hand, is strongly

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread CNJPALMER
I think every child is different and that is part of our role as teachers. We do have auditory learners who may remember more when reading aloud. I know that if I want to remember a phone number, I read it aloud over and over again! Watch your struggling readers when they are reading

[MOSAIC] QRI-4 Reading Rates

2007-07-17 Thread Kelly Smart
Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 at 7:12 AM -0500 wrote: The QRI-4 manual gives the following ranges of oral reading rates of students reading at their instructional level: Level

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Zoe Jackson
How sensible! Zoe On Tuesday, July 17, 2007, at 03:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think every child is different and that is part of our role as teachers. We do have auditory learners who may remember more when reading aloud. I know that if I want to remember a phone number, I read

[MOSAIC] question from student in Nancy Creech's class

2007-07-17 Thread alana thomas-pypkowski
Hello, my name is alana. i am a student in Nancy creech's class this summer semester and she asked me to post my question today. so here it is. As a new teacher how do you know if your students are comprehending what they are reading as apposed to just mimicking the models you are

Re: [MOSAIC] question from student in Nancy Creech's class

2007-07-17 Thread Bonita DeAmicis
You know, in a way, by a number of factors. You know because of their interest and stamina for reading (you can't maintain interest/attention if you have no idea about meaning). You will also note their ability to talk about their reading in more than general terms when discussing in book

Re: [MOSAIC] oral vs. silent reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread tdbell
Thank you! That is what I have been thinking. Once a child is comfortable and capable with reading I don't see this as much. But, with my low/struggling readers it makes all the difference for them to read it out loud! Tammy TX, 4th It's not that they are focused, it's because their EARS are

Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread tdbell
I think another difference is reading aloud for one's own benefit as opposed to impressing the class of their peers. When they read for themselves, they are not as self conscious, just more focused on making meaning of what they are reading. Tammy 4th, TX

[MOSAIC] comprehension quesiton

2007-07-17 Thread Harbour, Deborah
Alana, You know that they comprehend when you listen to them discuss the books they are reading. Are they able to hold a discussion with a partner (s) in a book talk, do they make connections to other books they have read, do they find ways to respond to books that are deeper than just

Re: [MOSAIC] oral vs. silent reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Beverlee Paul
All these new points RE oral and silent reading comprehension pretty much affirm my statement about the question -- Answers will vary. And that's why I say that the question, How can we possibly know that? was indeed a brilliant question. What we have seen and heard on this listserve in

Re: [MOSAIC] oral vs. silent reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread CNJPALMER
However...I think we need to understand that when we make a diagnosis about the strengths and weaknesses of a student as a reader, we are always making a hypothesis. Students who read slowly orally and comprehend poorly, MAY also have that problem when they read silently. We can't KNOW for

Re: [MOSAIC] oral vs. silent reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Beverlee Paul
There's no way I could agree with you more. Bev However...I think we need to understand that when we make a diagnosis about the strengths and weaknesses of a student as a reader, we are always making a hypothesis. Students who read slowly orally and comprehend poorly, MAY also have that

Re: [MOSAIC] question from student in Nancy Creech's class

2007-07-17 Thread ljackson
By talking with them, honestly, it is that simple. Conversation is a powerful tool. Lori On 7/17/07 4:26 PM, alana thomas-pypkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, my name is alana. i am a student in Nancy creech's class this summer semester and she asked me to post my question today. so

Re: [MOSAIC] oral vs. silent reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread ljackson
I love this! If we are constantly gathering our facts and then reassessing our data, we are a powerful force to be reckoned with. Knowledge is only powerful if it is dynamic. Lori On 7/17/07 7:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However...I think we need to understand that

Re: [MOSAIC] oral vs. silent reading comprehension

2007-07-17 Thread Beverlee Paul
Knowledge is only powerful if it is dynamic. Lori Truer words were never spoken!! _ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ___

Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Publishing Kids Writing

2007-07-17 Thread Lisa Szyska
What about Stone Soup magazine? It is ENTIRELY creative writing and illustrations from kids 8-14, I believe. Check it out: http://www.stonesoup.com/ Lisa 2/3 IL Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life?