First, I highly encourage everyone who hasn't attended the Sax-Zim Bog Winter
Bird Festival to check it out.
The TMDB Board and Mike have done a great job in bringing awareness to the Bog.
I have been involved all four years, taught a bird photography course for two
years and was the keynote
To any who cares to respondI'm wondering why it's acceptable and praised to
post locations
of an out of range bird that may or may not be stressed due to being in a
possibly challenging
climate, (Tropical Kingbird in Duluth for example), but worriesome to post
locations of owls?
Is it
JUST when I thought I'd be telling you that our crane count went down, it
actually went UP! This morning our count was 6190! Daytime crane watching has
actually improved, I think, over this past week - with more birds concentrating
along the north side of CR 3, and along CR 70, quite close to
hear, hear!! :
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Fr. Paul Kammen
fr.p...@delanocatholic.comwrote:
While I can understand the importance of protecting habitat, one of the
reasons I subscribe to this list is to hear from other birders where
opportunities
might be found to view and
hear hear!! and im in Az hoping to come to Mn to bird this winter!
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:46 AM, sc...@aol.com wrote:
To any who cares to respondI'm wondering why it's acceptable and
praised to post locations
of an out of range bird that may or may not be stressed due to being in a
I was fortunate to see a single snow bunting feeding along the shoreline of
little detroit lake this morning in downtown Detroit Lakes.
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Mike:
Having seen a number of rare birds get run off by too many overeager
birders, I can agree with you. However, one of the ways people see good
birds is from information via posts on birding bulletin boards such as MOU,
South Dakota-Birds, TexBirds, etc. Maybe the way to satisfy both the
Perhaps Michael had the problems from last year in mind or other equally
disturbing incidents?
http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1012L=MOU-NETT=0F=S=P=2549
It is easy enough to contact folks off-list for specific locations if they are
forthcoming, but I think it makes sense to limit
Yes Bill, et al,
Michael is not naive and knows (as was mentioned on the listserv last year)
this list serv is public and pretty much anyone can lurk and that not all
of them are birders. And also, not all who take advantage of this list
have a decent (let alone good) set of ethics when it comes
There are many reasons to withhold information on rare birds. You all should
live in England/Scotland where the location of rare breeding birds is closely
guarded and rarely publicized lest hordes of people or worse, egg collectors,
get wind of the location and disturb the poor birds out of
Ah, ethical tension. This issue is not linear.
Stressing, harming birds - particularly rarer or declining species - certainly
not good overall.
However, not sharing hinders opportunities to train influence newer birders
on how to enjoy rarer species without stressing them.
Perhaps sharing
Whatever happened to the joy of discovering your own birds? Long-eared,
Northern-saw-whet, and Short-eared owls likely occur seasonally in almost any
Minnesota county and I recall at least one article in the Loon in how to find
your own Long-eared Owls.
The thing of it is, not all of us are
Spent the day at NRRI listening to 6
hours of power point discussions on a various topics related to applying
herbicides and fertilizers on turf and landscape areas. I sat and listen to a
half hour power point
discussion on how to choose the right pair of rubber gloves! So while
listening to
Why does the Welcome Center
I would like to reply to Sparky's reply.
Why does the Welcome Center building need to built on bog habitat? Why not
rent one of the many rooms or vacant buildings in Meadowlands? Here are the
positives about using Meadowlands as a location for the Welcome Center
I don't usually jump into these things but this time I feel compelled to. I
would offer the following for your consideration in no particular order:
1) I believe that what constitutes disturbance is somewhat arbitrary. If a
bird looks at you is it disturbed? If it flies to the next power pole is
Bill:
My observations on your points below are based on experience in a part of
the US where lots of rare birds are seen, Central and South Texas.
Steve
Stevan Hawkins
San Antonio TX
-Original Message-
From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill
Penning
-RBA
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*Detroit Lakes
*November 3, 2011
*MNDL.03
-Birds mentioned
Greater Prairie-Chicken
Bald Eagle
Northern Harrier
Rough-legged Hawk
Northern Shrike
Black-billed Magpie
Snow Bunting
Eastern Towhee
Harris's Sparrow
Common Redpoll
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I'm new here and should probably keep my mouth shut, but that has
never been easy for me :-)
I think sharing the localities is a good thing because it offers an
opportunity to remind newbies - like me - to abide by some guidelines.
For instance, one might give the location of a particular bird
This afternoon I visited Summit Ledges at Hawk Ridge (Summit Ledges is one
of the rocky outcrops along the northern edge of the Hawk Ridge trails). I
hawkwatched there by myself to just soak up the late autumn views and
simply take it easy this afternoon. If you're ever in Duluth, and need a
walk
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:36:05 -0500, Thamnophis thamnop...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm new here and should probably keep my mouth shut, but that has
never been easy for me :-)
I think sharing the localities is a good thing because it offers an
opportunity to remind newbies - like me - to abide by some
It seems no one is reading what I am saying! All I am asking is to not post
exact owl locations or directions to the exact tree where you spot an owl. Owl
species I am talking about are Northern Saw-whet Owls, Boreal Owls, Northern
Hawk Owls, Long-eared Owls, Great Gray Owls and Snowy Owls.
Close up of a Ring-billed Gull at Canal Park
http://www.pbase.com/birdfedr/image/139371803
Here is that darker-marked (oddly-molting) Ring-billed Gull. I really like
this one :-)
http://www.pbase.com/birdfedr/image/139371805
http://www.pbase.com/birdfedr/image/139371806
I can see that Mike has some valid concerns about protecting owls, but I just
respectfully disagree. Yes, there are some people who violate the rules, just
as
this weekend people will violate private property to get a deer.
I have a fondness for birds, but also really enjoy photography. I've
I do feed mice to owls, and for me, in regards to the way that I go about it, I
have no ethical dillemas.
I started doing this last year and will continue to do it in the future. I
also feed seeds to chickadees,
suet to woodpeckers, potica to crows, and trail mix to gray jays. I will
continue
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