Re: [mb-style] RFC-327: Featured Artists

2011-07-18 Thread Yin Izanami
If we go this literally with as on cover for tracklists, and therefore normalize recordings to have all artists in the artist field, not in the title field, then... Can the server look at the recordings attached to a release's tracklist to see the artist credits of the recordings? If so, the

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Allow multiple ISWC codes per musicbrainz Work

2011-07-12 Thread Yin Izanami
, Yin Izanami wrote: It may be that a single work isn't supposed to have multiple ISWC codes, but in reality I believe it is the case that many single works do in fact have multiple ISWC codes. I've been searching the ASCAP database (http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Allow multiple ISWC codes per musicbrainz Work

2011-07-12 Thread Yin Izanami
Just in case it wasn't clear - Arrangement relationship can't be attached at the Work level in Musicbrainz. hence why they aren't new Musicbrainz works. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Yin Izanami yind...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know why you can't see them. I just reproduced it easily

Re: [mb-style] RFC-326: Add Artist Type Other

2011-07-12 Thread Yin Izanami
Actually I know of a couple cases where fictional characters are assigned composition credits. _Maybe_ with research the real people could be discovered, but it's also possible you wouldn't find anything. e.g., http://musicbrainz.org/artist/c6eda16b-1cc1-4c82-8ab7-50a18aac5791/relationships

[mb-style] RFC: Allow multiple ISWC codes per musicbrainz Work

2011-07-11 Thread Yin Izanami
It may be that a single work isn't supposed to have multiple ISWC codes, but in reality I believe it is the case that many single works do in fact have multiple ISWC codes. I've been searching the ASCAP database ( http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300) for Pokemon (USA) theme

Re: [mb-style] policy on merging of recordings

2011-07-11 Thread Yin Izanami
As long as mastering/mixing/engineering relationships apply to the Recording level, and can't be moved to a Track/Tracklist level (Release level doesn't work, because each recording could have different involved people), then there is absolutely no way you can merge (1) and (2). This is why I

Re: [mb-style] RFC-326: Add Artist Type Other

2011-07-11 Thread Yin Izanami
+1, but this needs guidelines / serious thought first. Gender: I believe this should be allowed. Some fictional characters may be a different gender than the voice actor/actress behind him/her. It can only be helpful. Country: If we allow this for other genders, there need to be guidelines

Re: [mb-style] RFV-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performance Relationship Type

2011-07-05 Thread Yin Izanami
I did read the guildeline, but it is unhelpful and confusing in a different area than you've pointed out. Do not use the instrumental attribute for karaoke recordings, see Karaoke Version Relationship Type instead. That statement doesn't even begin to lead an editor to the answer of why the

Re: [mb-style] RFV-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performance Relationship Type

2011-07-05 Thread Yin Izanami
, and that is why I gave the RFC a second week asking for anyone to comment / help with the wording. And nobody did :( Still, better late than never, I guess. Please discuss the wording :) On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Yin Izanami yind...@gmail.com wrote: I did read the guildeline

Re: [mb-style] Partial performances of aggregate works

2011-06-29 Thread Yin Izanami
I would suggest using tags to mark them temporarily if there's really that much voter resistance. (It doesn't matter how long your tag is, it could be a sentence...) 2011/6/29 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:21 AM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [mb-style] iTunes Store: No longer for exclusives?

2011-06-27 Thread Yin Izanami
I disagree with having a separate release per lossy/lossless encoding format. For example, there is essentially zero audible difference between Amazon MP3's in high-bitrate VBR and iTunes Plus AAC files at ~256kbps. Plus, editors are already merging CDDA recordings whose volume levels are

[mb-style] Birthdates without years (aka birthdays)

2011-06-24 Thread Yin Izanami
Is Musicbrainz interested in capturing birthdays without birth years? (since it currently doesn't allow a month and date without a year) Since it is fairly well known that many countries' SSN are not secure enough (numbers can sometimes be generated correctly from full birthdates and locations of

Re: [mb-style] Merge Slim Jewel Case into Jewel Case (was: Re: RFC: Add Super Jewel Box to release packaging list)

2011-06-22 Thread Yin Izanami
I am opposed to merging Slim Jewel Case into Jewel Case. I believe this is a significant loss of information. For example, if someone were using Musicbrainz data to look for a release in a store, and CD's were filed on shelves with the spine facing outwards rather than the front cover (there are

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add “Slipcase” to release packaging list

2011-06-22 Thread Yin Izanami
Specifically for releases like a CD jewel box inside a slipcase, we'll have to pick one. Simon obviously thinks the jewel box should take precedence over slipcase in that situation. I personally don't have an opinion either way, except that we should consistently apply whichever of those two

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add Keep case to release packaging list

2011-06-20 Thread Yin Izanami
I can confirm at least two CD keep case releases: http://musicbrainz.org/release/567afae8-3d72-4ad8-8223-1c0dbbd09403 http://musicbrainz.org/release/9f800a2a-2a6e-490c-95c7-b5b6d380a743 Instead of writing Keep Case (DVDs), why don't we just put up a Packaging wiki page with a sample picture of a

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add “Box” to release packaging list

2011-06-20 Thread Yin Izanami
As Nikki pointed out in the Keep Case RFC, Musicbrainz does not currently support multiple packages. The way you have worded your Box RFC suggests Box should take precedence over Jewel Case, Mini Jewel Case, and the like. (And I know of many boxes with varying package formats inside.) On Mon,

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add “Slipcase” to release packaging list

2011-06-20 Thread Yin Izanami
I also disagree with this strongly because the logic here is easy to extrapolate ridiculously. Nearly all Japanese releases are packaged in an Obi, some of which extend the full width of the jewel case, so would you propose to change those mini/jewel cases to Obi just like this Slipcase proposal

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add Super Jewel Box to release packaging list

2011-06-20 Thread Yin Izanami
I don't think you can technically -1 a RFC. As for me, +1. I've seen it used, and it's significantly different from a Jewel Case, of which we more similar formats already in Musicbrainz (like the mini-jewel case, where the major differences in my experience relate to the booklet/jacket design).

Re: [mb-style] Packaging types

2011-06-20 Thread Yin Izanami
What do you mean by a slim jewel case is the product of more than one company / a super jewel case is the product of only one company? Because Super Jewel Box isn't the only company that makes them. Verbatim also sells them: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B6OX99 Pentavision, a Korean

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add Keep case to release packaging list

2011-06-19 Thread Yin Izanami
+1. I think I might have added some keep cases as jewel cases by accident. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Michael Wiencek mwt...@gmail.com wrote: I see this as a fairly obvious and straightforward addition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_case We have several DVD formats available to

[mb-style] RFV: Add 8cm CD as a subtype of CD format

2011-06-19 Thread Yin Izanami
Background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_CD_single 8cm CD was commonly used by major Japanese labels for a decade. There is a clear use for it in Musicbrainz, considering 8cm CD shows up on Musicbrainz' top tags page ( http://musicbrainz.org/tag/8cm%20cd/release-group). RFC discussion:

Re: [mb-style] musings on title normalization

2011-06-13 Thread Yin Izanami
@Bogdan B, I take issue with your very first statement. How is it harder for an arbitrary user to determine what the cover says than to determine what the guidelines say? Assuming the user actually owns the release or has access to all the resources of the release (i.e., VGMdb for most game

Re: [mb-style] Normalization of release-level data NGS

2011-06-13 Thread Yin Izanami
I have major objections to recent comments. jacobbrett wrote: In my opinion: Track/Release Titles: *Typographical errors *Incorrect titles (e.g. bootleg prints title as a line from the lyrics, or two track titles are swapped) *Poor capitalisation (ALL-CAPS, all-lowercase etc.,

Re: [mb-style] Normalization of release-level data NGS

2011-06-13 Thread Yin Izanami
Sorry, in Tracklist Titles and Tracklist Artist Credits differ from Release Titles and Release Artist Credits, release should be recording. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Yin Izanami yind...@gmail.com wrote: I have major objections to recent comments. jacobbrett wrote: In my opinion

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add 8cm CD format (Mini CD / 3 CD) as a subtype of CD format

2011-06-12 Thread Yin Izanami
Maybe we should split Format into some form of Physical Format and Digital Format (not interpreted literally though)? In the case of CD, for physical we'd have 12cm and 8cm, and for digital we could have... -CDDA -Data (not sure how -ROM and -R should be split) -HDCD anything else I don't know

Re: [mb-style] RFC-324 v2: Official Website and Discography Entry ARs for Releases/Release Groups

2011-06-10 Thread Yin Izanami
What happens if a label changes the URL structure of their website? I'm concerned this will eventually lead to a countless number of dead links, if said changes aren't fixable by a simple script. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:21 AM, jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com wrote: Calvin Walton-2 wrote:

[mb-style] RFC: Add 8cm CD format (Mini CD / 3 CD) as a subtype of CD format

2011-06-10 Thread Yin Izanami
Proposal is to add 8cm CD as a subtype of CD in the medium format list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_CD_singlehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_CD http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/8%E3%82%BB%E3%83%B3%E3%83%81CD I'd prefer seeing 8cm CD if no one objects to this, since the format was most

[mb-style] Release Artist for Soundtrack

2011-06-07 Thread Yin Izanami
Hi all, I've got a disagreement here at edit #14579974. This is for the StarCraft II game soundtrack. Currently it's listed under Various Artists, but I'd like to change it to the artists who are printed prominently on the first page of the jacket, Glenn Stafford, Derek Duke, Russell Brower,

[mb-style] Artist sort name for a fairly special case

2011-06-07 Thread Yin Izanami
The artist AAA is literally and physically sorted as TORIPURU-EE / Triple A in Japan. You can see this in Japanese bookstores and on avexnet's listing of all its artists - it is sorted under the TO character, not A or E or the like. I realize artist sort name is not supposed to be used for