Re: [mailing] Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/decidingthisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-28 Thread Marco Sola
Il Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:39 AM Jan van Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I'm just deducing the current system doesn't work yet, because of personal misunderstanding between people. Or full agreement, like when an instrument is played by a secretary. Sorry if it seems rude but it simply

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Don Redman
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:34:18 +0200, Brian Gurtler wrote: Stefan Kestenholz wrote: brian: Is it true that this artist performed the vacuum cleaner on many occasions, and this is documented in bootlegs/released recordings? if that is the case, then we should add it. yes it's true. i am

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Don Redman
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:31:39 +0200, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: Ok, I've added this and http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1228 to the instrument tree. Some people will probably disagree, so please tell me, I'll ask someone to remove my link editor privs and won't do it anymore. What?

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Kaye
On Mar 27, 2006, at 5:24 AM, Don Redman wrote: And I am strongly opposed to removing your RelType editor privileges. Agreed. So far all Luks' actions were following valid bugs or instructions from the style secretary. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is *still* missing

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
incessant whining? and you call Me confrontational.. Robert Kaye wrote: On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Don Redman wrote: Well, then I'd say we should add this now and let Brian add the appropriate Relationships. I mean if we finally have a rule, we should use it :-) Yes, but Luks

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Kaye
On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Jan van Thiel wrote: I think that if e.g. inhouseuk (sorry to (ab)use your name, just giving an example), a moderator with a spotless record, had requested these, they would've been added almost instantaneously. I disagree. If a moderator with a perfect record

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
looks whose whining now.. Robert Kaye wrote: On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Jan van Thiel wrote: I think that if e.g. inhouseuk (sorry to (ab)use your name, just giving an example), a moderator with a spotless record, had requested these, they would've been added almost instantaneously. I

RE: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding this in IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread g0llum
Please post only if you have something to say. This is certainly nothing of interest, and documents why you are facing unwillingness if you request something. g0llum Behalf Of Brian Gurtler Sent: Dienstag, 28. März 2006 05:59 looks whose whining now..

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding this in IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
theres no need for Robert call for and end of discussion yet at the same time to continue calling me or anyone else involved in the discussion a whiner. if he doesn't want those reactions he should keep the flame bait to himself. -Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please post only if you have

RE: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/dec iding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
I respect Don but as I said before, I'm just really tired of waiting months to get this instrument (or any other instrument) added. -b Apologies. I misunderstood the comment. I have to admit that it is sometimes hard to understand why changes like that take such a lot of time, or

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Steve Wyles
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Don Redman wrote: The current Recording Engineer debate is a good example: Simon thought he was requesting a veto (but did not say so explicitly), but Steve put forward a dissenting oppinion (he did not label it as a veto) and spared another discussion. I've just

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Don Redman
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:47:10 +0200, Steve Wyles wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Don Redman wrote: The current Recording Engineer debate is a good example: Simon thought he was requesting a veto (but did not say so explicitly), but Steve put forward a dissenting oppinion (he did not label it as

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-25 Thread Brian Gurtler
We really need to get this implemented. I'd suggest to load it onto test after the next server update. Then we should test it and then move it over to the main server. The vacuum cleaner can be added to the test tree, be discussed to death, and then finally make it to the main server,

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-24 Thread Robert Kaye
On Mar 22, 2006, at 7:37 PM, Brian Gurtler wrote: mos thingy is live. now can we have our vacuum cleaner? You have not demonstrated 5 uses of a vacuum cleaner in published works. There was an ambiguity over the 5 references -- I would like to see 5 published albums reference the instrument

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding this in IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Brian Gurtler
LOL yes, give the position to someone that has no spine and will back down at any argument presented to them. you know that i'm only confrontational when confronted.. and i believe most people that don't have thier head in the coulds on IRC realize that as well. -Brian btw-- what exactly ARE the

RE: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Cristov Russell
LOL yes, give the position to someone that has no spine and will back down at any argument presented to them. you know that i'm only confrontational when confronted.. and i believe most people that don't have thier head in the coulds on IRC realize that as well. -Brian btw-- what

RE: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Cristov Russell
I've been waiting over 3 months for an instrument to be added to MB and jumped through way too many bullshit hoops to get to where we are now. i'm just looking for it to be added without any further hoops like i was told by Redman that it would be once Mos thingy went live. It's been

RE: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-06 Thread Beth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Gurtler Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:20 AM To: MusicBrainz style discussion Subject: Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner Don Redman wrote: On Mon

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-02 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Brian Gurtler wrote: I've entered this into trac a while ago (12/13/05) and now it's in MB limbo http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/63 anyhow.. not to get too far ahead of myself, i don't see any reason to be bashful with what instruments can be added into MB. Slowing down the addition of

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Gurtler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i seriously doubt that jon fishman is the only person that has used a vacuum cleaner as an instrument, and also theres nothing stopping anyone from using it as an instrument in the future. why does everything have to be a big part of the db just to be

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-02 Thread Jan van Thiel
On 3/2/06, Simon Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More votes on this, please! I haven't replied to this thread so far, because I thought it was a trivial question. Guess not. My input: if an instrument exists and someone can show a MB example where he/she can add it and intends to add it, it

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-02 Thread Michel Rudoy
Forget the vacuum cleaner. Take this another example: Jean Michel Jarre invented an instrument called Laser Harp. As far as i know he is the only person who plays it. Is that enough reason to exclude a real instrument? Michel (mcymd) On 2 Mar 2006 at 19:02, Simon Reinhardt wrote: Brian