Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-28 Thread derGraph
Simon Reinhardt wrote: I tried to write down the current mechanisms introduced by you in a algorithmic way. But it's not yet perfect so before I touch the wiki pages I want some brainstorming on it: Nice. But you should point out that there are cases where no testing is needed, like "new AR t

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-28 Thread derGraph
Don Redman wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:04:44 +0200, derGraph wrote: The problem with such a graph is that quite often the subject of the discussion changes, but the subject lines of the posts don't. Therefore, this might be nice to look at, but not to be relied on. Hmm, yes you would have

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-26 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Don Redman wrote: IMVHO we need to clarify the current process of solving a style issue, and document it so well that *anybody* can follow the process. If we develop some tools that help, that's even better. I invite everybody to mercilessly edit StyleCouncil, HowToProposeNewGuidelines, Check

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-26 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:04:44 +0200, derGraph wrote: Simon Reinhardt wrote: == A Tool == Some explanation for the image you attached? I do not understand it. :) As far as I understand the image it simply shows the number of mails with a common subject line over a given time. A simple graph

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-26 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:53:58 +0200, Jan van Thiel wrote: On 4/26/06, Simon Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only thing we need is that someone *really* cares about a problem and controls discussions. And well, if noone like that is found for an issue then the style secretary can ask

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-26 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:20:24 +0200, Simon Reinhardt wrote: Don Redman wrote: == More Secretaries == I don't want to cling to my job. And I know that I have not done my job in the last weeks. Does someone want to take over the secretaries job from me? Temporarily or permanently? You'll need

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-26 Thread derGraph
Simon Reinhardt wrote: No, I just think it's way too much work for one person. So I think you could need some support. [...] That way we don't even need fixed secretary positions, only a pool of trustworthy persons who will really work on the issues. That's exactly how understood your propos

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-26 Thread derGraph
Don Redman wrote: We could have a small deamon. The secretary (or anybody?) tells it: this task/ticket is being discussed/RFCed/RFVed now, and after a certain period, the deamon asks what has happended. This could be hacked into Trac I don't think we should hack anything into trac. This is a

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-26 Thread derGraph
Simon Reinhardt wrote: == A Tool == Some explanation for the image you attached? I do not understand it. :) As far as I understand the image it simply shows the number of mails with a common subject line over a given time. A simple graph would be more intuitive, I think (but this looks nice

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread Jan van Thiel
On 4/26/06, Simon Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some explanation for the image you attached? I do not understand it. :) I don't get it either. I think the width of the grey band indicates the number of emails per time unit sent on the subject. But images are usually only a way to enhance

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread Jan van Thiel
On 4/26/06, Simon Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing we need is that someone *really* cares about a problem and > controls discussions. And well, if noone like that is found for an issue then > the style secretary can ask someone to do the work or try to do it themselves > as

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Don Redman wrote: == More Secretaries == I don't want to cling to my job. And I know that I have not done my job in the last weeks. Does someone want to take over the secretaries job from me? Temporarily or permanently? You'll need an ok from Robert, so probably nothing will happen before he'

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread Don Redman
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:16:55 +0200, derGraph wrote: Simon Reinhardt wrote: We need more secretaries who are willing to do some work. When a new problem arises on the style mailing list, one of the secretaries goes to add a ticket to the style issues section on trac and either sets the owne

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread derGraph
Simon Reinhardt wrote: We need more secretaries who are willing to do some work. When a new problem arises on the style mailing list, one of the secretaries goes to add a ticket to the style issues section on trac and either sets the owner to her-/himself or to CC. Then they are responsible for