24-Mar-02 at 22:37, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot of that here,
don't we? ;)
I don't know that I can let you get away with that. Said in the correct accent
- in fact, one of German, Switzerdutch, and most Scandinavian
25-Mar-02 at 02:00, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
seriously - mutt sends email. that's it.
if your users don't read their emails right away
then they won't notice your message at all.
It doesn't even do that. Mutt reads mail (but it's better to use a helper app
to get it) and then
Let's mark this thread properly so at least it's easy to filter out...
Said this, my two drops of gasoline on the fire:
Jussi =~ Giusi, same pronounce here in Italy, where is short for
Giuseppina (feminine only), but, OTOH
Andrea = masculine only in Italy, feminine in Germany
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 09:10:11AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In and English accent (particularly Canadian/American) it /may/ sound
feminine... but you should never assume that just because in your phonetics, a
name sounds feminine, that it is. Indeed, never assume at all that you can
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 21:09:42 +0200]:
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply
heretics.
Oh, you
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:09:41:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
Care to give some examples?
if [ muttversion != 1.5.0 ]; then
source ~/.mutt/setup/nntp
fi
But you're right, this one may be done with a bash script. But - to me -
it looks ugly havin a good mail client and some sort of
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 12:09:40:PM -0500 Andre Berger wrote:
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-22 20:31 -0500:
well, does this BCC header get posted, too?
if not then I don't a problem.. *shrug*
Indirectly:
To: undisclosed recipients ;
is generated, but no mail is sent.
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:50:29:PM +0100 Sven Guckes wrote:
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 01:40]:
At least connditionals are absolutely missing
in mutt's config file functionality.
.. and also missing with setup files
for elm, pine, outlook, ...
All mail clients suck.
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:16:52:AM -0600 David DeSimone wrote:
J. Effendi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can I use mutt to replace this kind of notification messages to all
users easily? Where can I get more information about it?
Others have answered your first question, but I have a
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
And to point out -- 'sed s/her/his/g'. ;-)
You're a guy? Oooops! Sorry.
Your name just sounds so feminine.
Hehe, no problem. :-) And I could take the lower line as a compliment,
I guess.
But yeah, this is going
Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:09:41:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
Care to give some examples?
if [ muttversion != 1.5.0 ]; then
source ~/.mutt/setup/nntp
fi
Quoting the fine manual section 3.0:
In addition, mutt supports version
Quoting Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 23, 2002 16:39]:
When I do:
# date | sendmail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#(ispwest.com is another isp of mine)
Here's what I get:
(lines removed)
Possibly two things wrong:
1. Is sendmail set up to allow messages to go to/from root?
2.
Hi Rob!
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
Care to give some examples?
folder-hook =folder 'push T~r1m\n' if [ ~T ]; then 'push \;s=archiv\n' fi
--
[ markus hubig ] [ mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ debian/gnu linux (sid) ]
[ vorholzstrasse 6 ] [ saft: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [
Hi Robert!
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Robert Conde wrote:
When I send a pgp encrypted message to someone, I can't read it in my
fcc folder. I set the fcc_clear variable so that the FCC is stored
unencrypted. I read in some FAQ that it's possible to configure Mutt
to use GnuPG's
Rob, et al --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
%
% Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip
% them out; that will work as a general solution in case somebody else
% uses Incredimail.
%
% Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip
Rob --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus:
% Sven [mmh.. ye... deeper.. oh, yeah..]
%
% You sure that's a massage you're getting? ;)
No, it's a m-e-ssage, but it's from one of those lists ;-)
:-D
--
David T-G * It's easier to fight for
Shawn, et al --
...and then Shawn McMahon said...
%
...
% from me in lots of fora, all signed, then you may consider my identity
% established enough for your purposes, and choose to local-sign my key, and
...
% If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter
% would
On Mar 24, Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any way of telling mutt to execute an interactive command
(e.g. collapse-all) in .muttrc short of using push?
Sure. There is exec, which is used with named commands, not in
key-stroke macros. For example:
folder-hook !!exec
Hi all!
The last line of my ~/.mutt/muttrc is
push !/home/martin/bin/getmail\nchange-folder \n
which should start a script fetching mails from my ISPs but
does not work. :( In Mutt itself push works fine:
:push !/home/martin/bin/getmail\nchange-folder \n
is OK. So is there a way to enable
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 17:13:48 +0100, Martin Hammer wrote:
So is there a way to enable push in muttrc?
I have
push V
in my .muttrc and it works.
--
Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100%
validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat
Hi Martin!
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Martin Hammer wrote:
The last line of my ~/.mutt/muttrc is
push !/home/martin/bin/getmail\nchange-folder \n
which should start a script fetching mails from my ISPs but
does not work. :( In Mutt itself push works fine:
Hmm, I put
| push
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:12:41AM +0100:
Not that I know, but it is quite dangerous to talk about Outlook in the
context of mail clients.
Oh, it is a mail client, it's just not an Internet mail client.
At the very least, it doesn't read
On 25.Mar 2002, Markus Hubig wrote:
Hmm, I put
| push !/home/markus/bin/test.sh\n change-folder\n
in the last line of my muttrc and it works like a charm ...
I'm running Mutt 1.3.27i (2002-01-22).
So it is possible that it works on my machine too.. :-)
I've found out that push
I need help. Is there an option in mutt (muttrc) to set the content
type to multipart/alternative?
Situation is:
We want to send out email that is html, but for those who only
accept or access text email, we wnat them to be able to open the email
also.
Any help would be appreciated.
Donna
25-Mar-02 at 11:39, Donna Koenig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
I need help. Is there an option in mutt (muttrc) to set the content
type to multipart/alternative?
Situation is:
We want to send out email that is html, but for those who only
accept or access text email, we wnat them to be
* Martin Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 16:14]:
The last line of my ~/.mutt/muttrc is
push !/home/martin/bin/getmail\nchange-folder \n
which should start a script fetching mails
from my ISPs but does not work. :(
I suggest to *not* do such things at startup in mutt -
you might regret
* Donna Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 18:38]:
We want to send out email that is html, but for those who
only accept or access text email, we wnat them to be able
to open the email also. Is there an option in mutt
(muttrc) to set the content type to multipart/alternative?
That's DOG
--DiL7RhKs8rK9YGuF
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Simon White spake thus:
24-Mar-02 at 22:37, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot of
25-Mar-02 at 20:14, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
* Donna Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 18:38]:
We want to send out email that is html, but for those who
only accept or access text email, we wnat them to be able
to open the email also. Is there an option in mutt
--SNIs70sCzqvszXB4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! John Buttery spake thus:
Oh, and of course I also sign just to keep Rob from forging my email.
:)
Rats! Foiled again! :)
--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
* Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 03:23]:
http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/bugrep.html
Additions? Corrections? Feedback welcome!
The last sentence of the top section is:
The report then gets sent to debian.org and there enters the
First, this is incomplete.
oops!
* Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-18 15:03]:
Is it possible to let mutt accept muilt-byte
(eg. Traditional Chinese) charaters
while entering search pattern?
mutt strips the 8th bit. I can not
find the setting to tell it not to.
I don't think that mutt has any support
for multi-byte
* thus spaketh Rob 'Feztaa' Park (Mar 25 at 12:31PM):
I don't know that I can let you get away with that. Said in the
correct accent - in fact, one of German, Switzerdutch, and most
Scandinavian accents, Jussi sounds reasonably masculine to me.
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me,
* Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 02:55]:
another question: is it possible that if i run
mutt with -f option, the folder-hooks don't work?
could be. start a new thread, ok?
Sven
--2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! David T-G spake thus:
Rather than using procmail, which will *gasp* change the mail as it comes
in, just have mutt ignore those headers that you don't
Rob --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly
% female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;)
You've never heard of Jesse Ventura or Jesse James, just for starters?
Sure, they're both American, but one is quite
Rob --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Alas! David T-G spake thus:
% Rather than using procmail, which will *gasp* change the mail as it comes
% in, just have mutt ignore those headers that you don't want to see and
% update your list as you see new ones. To wit:
...
%
% Oh yuck! You don't
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:18:11:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote:
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:12:41AM +0100:
Not that I know, but it is quite dangerous to talk about Outlook in the
context of mail clients.
Oh, it is a mail client, it's just not an
On 25.Mar 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:
* Martin Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 16:14]:
The last line of my ~/.mutt/muttrc is
push !/home/martin/bin/getmail\nchange-folder \n
which should start a script fetching mails
from my ISPs but does not work. :(
I suggest to *not* do such
On 25.Mar 2002, Markus Hubig wrote:
Oh I remember that I have an alias for mutt, so if I type in mutt it
executes mutt -y! Mayby this is the difference ...?!
Oh, this works fine!
But why don't you create an little Script called eg. gmsm
(GetMailStartMutt ;-) that executes getmail and
begin quoting what Donna Koenig said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:39:39AM -0500:
Situation is:
We want to send out email that is html, but for those who only
accept or access text email, we wnat them to be able to open the email
also.
OK, let me see if I get this right:
You want to
Alas! tim lupfer spake thus:
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a
decidedly female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named
Jessy ;)
but does canada _really_ count? nah. go play with an elk :P
Oh, _that_'s mature...
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 07:58:17PM +0100:
At the very least, it doesn't read RFC1521-compliant mails as
recommended in the standard.
Which has status informational only.
Ok, first, wrong, it's standards-track, not informational.
However, it *IS* the
--cPi+lWm09sJ+d57q
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! David T-G spake thus:
% Oh yuck! You don't honestly believe that that mess is a better solution
% than a 3-line procmail recepie, do you?
=20
Sure I
Rob --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Alas! David T-G spake thus:
% % Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly
% % female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;)
%
% You've never heard of Jesse Ventura or Jesse James, just for starters?
%
%
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:31:36PM -0700:
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly
female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;)
Jesse Owens. Jesse Ventura.
Insist on the same spelling? Ok. Jessy
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:39:39AM -0500, Donna Koenig wrote:
I need help. Is there an option in mutt (muttrc) to set the content
type to multipart/alternative?
Situation is:
We want to send out email that is html, but for those who only
accept or access text email, we wnat them to be
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:44:26PM -0700:
Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to
accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with
them (the headers, not the people) :P
If you want elegant:
Shawn, et al --
...and then Shawn McMahon said...
%
% If you want elegant:
%
% ignore *
% unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject list user-agent x-mailer
%
% I mean, who really cares about all that other crapola?
Well, yeah. If you want to go that far, ...
%
% Most people could go
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 01:25:23PM -0700:
I'd rather just rip off all the useless headers with an elegant 3-line
procmail recipie than have to hide them all with 10 or 20 lines of
ignore statements.
You can have it both ways; use Procmail to
--CNfT9TXqV7nd4cfk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
I mean, who really cares about all that other crapola?
A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I
--MFZs98Tklfu0WsCO
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
You can have it both ways; use Procmail to prepend X-Nuke at the
beginning of all the bad lines, then ignore X-Nuke.
That
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 20:13]:
Alas! tim lupfer spake thus:
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me,
which is a decidedly female name in Canada.
I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;)
but does canada _really_ count?
nah. go play with an elk :P
Oh,
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:05:45PM -0700:
That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke
without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess
david posted).
ignore received x-nuke
msg26096/pgp0.pgp
should know. (hey, David,
have you stopped posting to the XXX list?)
Sven [what's wrong with them
just pick one people lately?]
--
mutt.patch.massage.gimmegimmegimme.20020325
--yklP1rR72f9kjNtc
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke
without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:34:48PM -0700:
ignore received x-nuke
There are other headers I want to hide though.
When I said have procmail prepend all the bad headers, I meant every
header you'd like to hide.
The only headers that I _want_ to see
On Mar 25, Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
* Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 03:23]:
Second, it is wrong as far as it goes. flea(1) doesn't send anything
to debian.org.
SUBMIT=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEBIAN_SUBMIT=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
hmm... isn't DEBIAN_SUBMIT used at
25-Mar-02 at 12:44, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to
accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with
them (the headers, not the people) :P
Well just as an aside Incredimail
On Mar 25, Jeremy Blosser [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Mar 25, Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
well, considering the amount of data this generates
mutt-dev isn't the place to take in such huge mails, either.
mutt-dev is the place where the developers want the bugs to come so that
Alas! Simon White spake thus:
Well just as an aside Incredimail marketing claims Email has evolved on
its website, or something equally high power marketing toss to go with the
eyecandy approach to email.
Yeah, as far as I can tell all those stupid X- headers are some kind of
preferences
I've been using mutt with pgp and gpg for years now, and would like to
solve a nagging problem: when I started using it, I let it save my outgoing
mail encrypted until I discovered that it was saving the outgoing message
exactly --- encrypted to the recipient. Well *that's* pretty useless, as
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Said Alan Batie on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:03:24PM -0800:
what I *really* want is to save them encrypted to *me*.
See the archives from the past week... I seem to remember it coming up.
Also, a quick search gives this:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 05:38:44PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
what I *really* want is to save them encrypted to *me*.
http://www.mail-archive.com/mutt-users@mutt.org/msg22312.html
Perfect! Thanks...
--
Alan Batie __www.rdrop.com/users/alan Me
On 15:02 25 Mar 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Well, look into fetchmail. If you can't/won't use fetchmail, use a perl
| script that searches through a file and strips out all the ^M's... ;)
|
| It would be a pretty simple script. Here's a snippet:
|
| while (STDIN)
| {
|
My .muttrc is set up to sort mail by threads rather
than exclusively by date. Mutt draws nice lines and
indents child emails of a thread nicely.
I tried to log into this PC REMOTELY and these
nice features did NOT come out anymore?!!? How
do I get these lines again remotely???
Thanks,
Chris
begin quoting what Alan Batie said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:03:24PM -0800:
first place. I discovered the fcc_clear option, which saves the message
unencrypted and have been living with that, but what I *really* want is to
save them encrypted to *me*.
Mutt doesn't do that, but PGP does.
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 04:03:29PM -0800, Christian Seberino wrote:
My .muttrc is set up to sort mail by threads rather
than exclusively by date. Mutt draws nice lines and
indents child emails of a thread nicely.
I tried to log into this PC REMOTELY and these
REMOTELY via what type of
* Christian Seberino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-26 00:03]:
My .muttrc is set up to sort mail by threads rather
than exclusively by date. Mutt draws nice lines
and indents child emails of a thread nicely.
I tried to log into this PC REMOTELY and these
nice features did NOT come out
* Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 21:22]:
25-Mar-02 at 02:00, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
seriously - mutt sends email. that's it.
if your users don't read their emails right away
then they won't notice your message at all.
It doesn't even do that. [..]
What Mutt
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:36:21 -0500
darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 23, 2002 16:39]:
When I do:
# date | sendmail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#(ispwest.com is another isp of mine)
Here's what I get:
(lines removed)
Hi!
I have a question if I can do the following with mutt.
I'm subscribed to several mailing lists which are sent
to 2 mail accounts. I'm using fetchmail to retrieve the
mails that are then stored in /var/spool/mail/matthias.
I'd like mutt to check whether a mail came from a mailing
list and
We've been able to teach Frenchmen to play ice hockey, which is more than
any European has been able to do.
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 20:13]:
Alas! tim lupfer spake thus:
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me,
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Alan Batie wrote:
snip
Sooo, before I waste too much more time on this, I thought I'd see if
anyone else has solved this problem...
The way I got around this problem was to put encrypt-to my-keyid in
my gnupg options file. That way all messages are encrypted to me and
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:02:17:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I
enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the
message is.
As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:23:06:PM -0800 Gary Johnson wrote:
I'm in a similar
situation where I need to periodically send to a distribution list a
document written in Word and would like to send it with a text/plain
version as multipart/alternative. Nothing I have done to edit the
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 09:39:49:PM + Simon White wrote:
So, since I'm hopeless with encoding, can someone tell me if I can filter
these people's mail in the pager so I don't have to keep asking them to
plaintext?
set display_filter=~/.mutt/scripts/displayfilter
,[ displayfilter
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 03:14:14:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote:
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 07:58:17PM +0100:
At the very least, it doesn't read RFC1521-compliant mails as
recommended in the standard.
Which has status informational only.
Ok,
David Ellement wrote:
I also see this. Here's an example from this list.
it also seems to happen when the parent moves out of the top of the
display.
173 rDF Mar 22 To [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1.6K) Fwd: Re: spews collateral damage
174 rDL Mar 22 Dallas Bethune (1.7K) |*
175 DL Mar 23
Moin,
* Matthias Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-25 22:26]:
I'm subscribed to several mailing lists which are sent
to 2 mail accounts. I'm using fetchmail to retrieve the
mails that are then stored in /var/spool/mail/matthias.
I'd like mutt to check whether a mail came from a mailing
list and
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