Re: [SPAM?] Re: no MUTTRC environment variable?

2016-07-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 08:02:38PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > >> > >> I have read the environment variables section in 'man mutt' and there > >> does not seem to be a MUTTRC environment variable. One can set using > >> -F option but sometime environme

[SPAM?] Re: [SPAM?] Re: no MUTTRC environment variable?

2016-07-02 Thread Will Yardley
n mutt' and there > >> does not seem to be a MUTTRC environment variable. One can set using > >> -F option but sometime environment variable is nice. > > > > What kind of uses did you have in mind? > > > > You can use environment variables in config files, so you

Re: [SPAM?] Re: no MUTTRC environment variable?

2016-07-02 Thread cs
oes not seem to be a MUTTRC environment variable. One can set using -F option but sometime environment variable is nice. Can someone confirm this is correct? Is there a reason for this? What kind of uses did you have in mind? You can use environment variables in config files, so you can always work around t

[SPAM?] Re: no MUTTRC environment variable?

2016-06-30 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 08:02:38PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: > > I have read the environment variables section in 'man mutt' and there > does not seem to be a MUTTRC environment variable. One can set using > -F option but sometime environment variable is nice. > > Can someone confi

no MUTTRC environment variable?

2016-06-30 Thread Xu Wang
Hello, I have read the environment variables section in 'man mutt' and there does not seem to be a MUTTRC environment variable. One can set using -F option but sometime environment variable is nice. Can someone confirm this is correct? Is there a reason for this? Kind regards, Xu

Re: Setting user variable in muttrc

2015-01-12 Thread Danny
#1 set from = `whoami`@domain.com # with backticks I went with this one ... Thank you for your time and effort in replying ... Danny

Re: Setting user variable in muttrc

2015-01-12 Thread Javi
* On 11 ene 2015, Danny wrote: Hi guys, I have setup a .muttrc in /etc/skel (Debian). My problem is that everytime I create a user and .muttrc is copied to the newly created user's home dir I still have to do some editing involving the user's name etc. What is the mutt variable

Setting user variable in muttrc

2015-01-11 Thread Danny
Hi guys, I have setup a .muttrc in /etc/skel (Debian). My problem is that everytime I create a user and .muttrc is copied to the newly created user's home dir I still have to do some editing involving the user's name etc. What is the mutt variable for a user: For example : I want set from = u

Re: sidebar_{width,refresh} in man muttrc

2014-02-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 04:45:30PM -0500, glphvgacs wrote: is that swapped or what? The sidebar patch is a non-standard Mutt extension, so not everyone can answer. However, I happen to use it. Looks like you are correct. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.

sidebar_{width,refresh} in man muttrc

2014-02-02 Thread glphvgacs
is that swapped or what?

Re: Correct .muttrc format for Maildir

2013-05-07 Thread Trey Sizemore
directory. I've been trying to change my .muttrc to reflect the change so that it points to the local files. While I'm seeing the mail in each subscribed folder, some of the expected behavior is not working ('c' prompting to change to the next folder with new messages). The local mail

Correct .muttrc format for Maildir

2013-05-06 Thread Trey Sizemore
I've been connecting to my fastmail.fm account directly via IMAP for a while now with no issues. Recently, I've decided to use offlineimap to mirror the content locally to a Maildir directory. I've been trying to change my .muttrc to reflect the change so that it points to the local files

Re: Correct .muttrc format for Maildir

2013-05-06 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon, May 6, 2013, at 08:53 AM, Trey Sizemore wrote: I've been connecting to my fastmail.fm account directly via IMAP for a while now with no issues. Recently, I've decided to use offlineimap to mirror the content locally to a Maildir directory. I've been trying to change my .muttrc

.muttrc

2013-03-28 Thread Eduardo Figueira Ramos
Hi, just forget to add my .muttrc file. Here you have it. set mbox_type=Maildir set spoolfile=~/.mdir set folder=~/.mdir set mask=!^\\.[^.] set record=+.Sent set postponed=+.Drafts set from=henry.t...@gmail.com mailboxes ! + '\\ for file in ~/.mdir/.*; do \\ box=$(basename $file

Re: Using .muttrc while sending messages from command line

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Elkins
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 05:26:34PM -0500, Spangler, Tim wrote: I have several automated processes that send e-mail from the command line, and I'd like each one to use its own .muttrc. This would allow me to specify the return address for each of these sets of e-mails based on the process

Re: Using .muttrc while sending messages from command line

2012-12-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-12-04, Spangler, Tim tim.spang...@adp.com wrote: I have several automated processes that send e-mail from the command line, and I'd like each one to use its own .muttrc. This would allow me to specify the return address for each of these sets of e-mails based on the process sending

Re: Using .muttrc while sending messages from command line

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Elkins
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 06:41:28PM -0500, Spangler, Tim wrote: The Muttrc_client files look similar to this (file name for this one is Muttrc_batch): set realname=Batch Reports set from =donotre...@adpselect.com set use_from=yes Which version of Mutt are you using?

Re: Using .muttrc while sending messages from command line

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Elkins
reading the system muttrc. Mutt will always attempt to use either the muttrc specified with -F or the user's personal muttrc (use -n -F /dev/null for no rc at all).

Re: Using .muttrc while sending messages from command line

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Elkins
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 06:41:28PM -0500, Spangler, Tim wrote: The Muttrc_client files look similar to this (file name for this one is Muttrc_batch): set realname=Batch Reports set from =donotre...@adpselect.com set use_from=yes I put the above in 'testrc' and then ran: $ echo 'hello world'

Bcc oddity when set in muttrc

2012-02-10 Thread J. A. Landamore
I am experiencing an oddity when trying to set a Bcc in my .muttrc A segment of my .muttrc is -- send-hook . unmy_hdr From: Reply-To: Bcc: send-hook ~t Address1 'my_hdr From: John Landamore j...@mcs.le.ac.uk ' send-hook ~t Address1 'my_hdr Reply-To: j...@mcs.le.ac.uk' send-hook ~t Address1

Re: Ctrl+Up in muttrc. Not possible?

2012-01-14 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Jan2012 22:34, Christian Dysthe cdys...@gmail.com wrote: | On 01/14/12 at 02:40pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: | On 13Jan2012 17:20, Christian Dysthe cdys...@gmail.com wrote: | | Is it possible to use the key combo Ctrl+Up (arrow up) in muttrc? I | | have tried \Cup but it doesn't seem to work

Ctrl+Up in muttrc. Not possible?

2012-01-13 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi, Is it possible to use the key combo Ctrl+Up (arrow up) in muttrc? I have tried \Cup but it doesn't seem to work. -- //Christian

Re: Ctrl+Up in muttrc. Not possible?

2012-01-13 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Jan2012 17:20, Christian Dysthe cdys...@gmail.com wrote: | Is it possible to use the key combo Ctrl+Up (arrow up) in muttrc? I | have tried \Cup but it doesn't seem to work. Only if your terminal emulator passes it through to the app. Get a plain shell and type: od -c Now type Ctrl-Up

Re: Ctrl+Up in muttrc. Not possible?

2012-01-13 Thread Christian Dysthe
On 01/14/12 at 02:40pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 13Jan2012 17:20, Christian Dysthe cdys...@gmail.com wrote: | Is it possible to use the key combo Ctrl+Up (arrow up) in muttrc? I | have tried \Cup but it doesn't seem to work. Only if your terminal emulator passes it through to the app

use a variable in .muttrc

2011-09-15 Thread Gérard Robin
record==OUTBOX/$year/outbox-`date +%m-%y`' fi - and in .muttrc I wrote: source '~/bin/year.sh |' but it is as if $year did not exist. but if I write the script year.sh like

Re: use a variable in .muttrc

2011-09-15 Thread Athanasius
echo 'set record==OUTBOX/$year/outbox-`date +%m-%y`' else echo 'set record==OUTBOX/$year/outbox-`date +%m-%y`' fi - The use of '' to enclose the string means bash won't expand any variables inside. Try instead. and in .muttrc I

Re: use a variable in .muttrc

2011-09-15 Thread XeCycle
- and in .muttrc I wrote: source '~/bin/year.sh |' but it is as if $year did not exist. but if I write the script year.sh like this: - #!/bin/bash an=`date +%Y` if [ ! -d ~/Mail/OUTBOX/$an ] then mkdir ~/Mail/OUTBOX/$an echo

Re: use a variable in .muttrc

2011-09-15 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 15Sep2011 10:41, Athanasius m...@miggy.org wrote: | On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:49:14AM +0200, Gérard Robin wrote: | in order to organize outbox I wrote this script: (year.sh) | - | #!/bin/bash | year=`date +%Y` | if [ ! -d

Re: use a variable in .muttrc

2011-09-15 Thread Gérard Robin
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:41:43AM +0100, Athanasius wrote: |Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:41:43 +0100 |From: Athanasius m...@miggy.org |To: Gérard Robin g.rob...@free.fr |Cc: mutt-users@mutt.org |Subject: Re: use a variable in .muttrc |User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) | |On Thu, Sep 15, 2011

Re: use a variable in .muttrc

2011-09-15 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:49:14AM +0200, Gérard Robin wrote: Hello, in order to organize outbox I wrote this script: (year.sh) - #!/bin/bash year=`date +%Y` if [ ! -d ~/Mail/OUTBOX/$year ] then mkdir

Correct syntax for vim in .muttrc

2009-10-23 Thread Trey Sizemore
I have my editor setup as vim in my .muttrc and set to insert the cursor on new mails and replies below the headers. But with this being vim 7 and spell check built in, I wanted to use that as well. So below are my .muttrc entries for editor (the first commented out entry being the one

Re: Correct syntax for vim in .muttrc

2009-10-23 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-10-23, Trey Sizemore t...@fastmail.fm wrote: I have my editor setup as vim in my .muttrc and set to insert the cursor on new mails and replies below the headers. But with this being vim 7 and spell check built in, I wanted to use that as well. So below are my .muttrc entries

Re: functions/procedures in muttrc

2009-09-20 Thread bill lam
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Tamas K Papp wrote: I read the manual but could not find anything similar. info in mutt manual is hard to find unless you have already known that command. ;-) look for the 'source' command, eg source ~/mymuttfile -- regards,

Re: functions/procedures in muttrc

2009-09-20 Thread Tamas K Papp
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:34:19 +0800, bill lam wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Tamas K Papp wrote: I read the manual but could not find anything similar. info in mutt manual is hard to find unless you have already known that command. ;-) look for the 'source' command, eg source ~/mymuttfile

Re: functions/procedures in muttrc

2009-09-20 Thread Michael Tatge
* On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 01:39PM + Tamas K Papp (tkp...@gmail.com) muttered: I find that I am doing some repetitive stuff in my .muttrc that occurs in multiple places (eg called by a folder hook, and also when mutt starts up). I wonder if it would be possible to do something like

Re: functions/procedures in muttrc

2009-09-20 Thread Tamas K Papp
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:42:06 +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: * On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 01:39PM + Tamas K Papp (tkp...@gmail.com) muttered: I find that I am doing some repetitive stuff in my .muttrc that occurs in multiple places (eg called by a folder hook, and also when mutt starts up). I

Re: functions/procedures in muttrc

2009-09-20 Thread Michael Tatge
* On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 05:42PM +0200 I (michael.ta...@web.de) muttered: * On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 01:39PM + Tamas K Papp (tkp...@gmail.com) muttered: I find that I am doing some repetitive stuff in my .muttrc that occurs in multiple places (eg called by a folder hook, and also when mutt

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-28 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Russell Urquhart wrote: That's it!!! GOOD EYE!!! That wouldn't have happened if you used ~/.muttrc instead :) SCNR, Rocco

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-28 Thread Russell Urquhart
I get the hint! :) Thanks, Russ On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:35:33PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: Hi, * Russell Urquhart wrote: That's it!!! GOOD EYE!!! That wouldn't have happened if you used ~/.muttrc instead :) SCNR, Rocco

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-27 Thread Rocco Rutte
, everything has worked so far. I have been able to use the alias command to append proper entries to my Muttrc file. In the past, as i had not explicitly stated where my Muttrc file was, looked at and used the one in ~/Desktop/mutt-1.5.19/etc/Muttrc. Did you install to ~/Desktop/mutt-1.5.19

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-27 Thread Russell Urquhart
Hi Rocco, The path before the error message IS: ~/Desktop/mutt-1.5.19/etc/Muttrc which IS where my Muttrc file is located. I DID install to ~/Desktop/mutt-1.5.19. (I've been weighing the pros cna cons of changing the location of the .muttrc, but so far everything has worked. Like i said

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Revilak
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 russurquhart1 Now when i go to write the alias, it asks if it should russurquhart1 write to this directory and Muttrc, when i say yes, it russurquhart1 says: russurquhart1 No such file or directory (errno = 2) russurquhart1 The path before

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-27 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Steve Revilak wrote: $ mutt -D | grep alias_file alias_file=~/.muttrc A minor unrelated nit: mutt 1.5.x for quite some has -Q: mutt -Q alias_file Rocco

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-27 Thread Russell Urquhart
Hi guys, the sponse i get is: alias_file=~Desktop/mutt-1.5.19/etc/Muttrc Russ On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:20:43PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: Hi, * Russell Urquhart wrote: When composing a new message, please don't simply reply to another. Or, if you do and use mutt, set the edit_headers

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-27 Thread Ed Blackman
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:38:53PM -0500, Russell Urquhart wrote: the sponse i get is: alias_file=~Desktop/mutt-1.5.19/etc/Muttrc That means the file mutt-1.5.19/etc/Muttrc in the home directory of the user 'Desktop'. Unless you have a user named Desktop on your system, and write access

Re: Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-27 Thread Russell Urquhart
That's it!!! GOOD EYE!!! I don't know how that got set that way, but when i put in the missing '/', everything worked again! Thanks, Russ

Alias now can't find my Muttrc?

2009-05-26 Thread Russell Urquhart
Hi All, It's been awhile, everything has worked so far. I have been able to use the alias command to append proper entries to my Muttrc file. In the past, as i had not explicitly stated where my Muttrc file was, looked at and used the one in ~/Desktop/mutt-1.5.19/etc/Muttrc. This has worked

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-05 Thread sigi
, is it more likely to access the server directly through mutt, or is there anything to change in muttrc for this feature? I'm now running offlineimap to update my Maildirs - but if the things above don't work locally, I think it'd be a better way to read mails remotely? Regards, sigi.

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-02 Thread sigi
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 09:29:25AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net [02-02-09 01:03]: There is a program mb2md that converts mbox format to maildir format. I have found it difficult to use, but I have made it work. mb2md might work very nicely if

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net [02-02-09 01:03]: There is a program mb2md that converts mbox format to maildir format. I have found it difficult to use, but I have made it work. mb2md might work very nicely if you give it a clean, well maintained mbox format email directory, but

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-02 Thread Christian Brabandt
the mail around. I have done something like this: Consider this minimal .muttrc , | # Specify which type, use any of | # Maildir, MH, mbox und MMDF | set mbox_type=Maildir | | # Where to store, dir must exist! | set my_archivedir=~/mutt_archive/$mbox_type | | # Create without confirmation | set

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-02 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 09:05:39PM +0100, sigi wrote: Thanks a lot for all your replies! I've changed my mailboxes to maildirs now - and am not messing around with two formats anymore. :) There *are* advantages to both... Their performance characteristics (and behavior, unfortunately) are

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-02 Thread Christian Ebert
* Derek Martin on Monday, February 02, 2009 at 18:17:14 -0600 On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 09:05:39PM +0100, sigi wrote: Thanks a lot for all your replies! I've changed my mailboxes to maildirs now - and am not messing around with two formats anymore. :) There *are* advantages to both... Their

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-02 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, February 2 at 06:17 PM, quoth Derek Martin: Another notable difference is in new mail notification and mailbox switching. Mutt's maildir implementation is better at remembering that you have new mail than its mbox implementation is...

Re: Conditional Configuration in .muttrc

2009-01-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Monday, December 29 at 12:15 PM, quoth Michael Kjorling: Untested, but should work: `if [ ... ]; then echo 'source onefile.muttrc'; else echo 'source otherfile.muttrc'; fi` Then just fill in onefile.muttrc and otherfile.muttrc with whichever settings are

Re: Conditional Configuration in .muttrc

2008-12-29 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 28 Dec 2008 18:13 -0700, by b...@proulx.com (Bob Proulx): set pager_index_lines=`test $(stty -a | sed -n '/rows/s/.*rows \([0-9][0-9]*\);.*/\1/p') -gt 30 echo 8 || echo 0` Untested, but should work: `if [ ... ]; then echo 'source onefile.muttrc'; else echo 'source otherfile.muttrc';

Re: Conditional Configuration in .muttrc

2008-12-29 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, December 29 at 12:15 PM, quoth Michael Kjorling: On 28 Dec 2008 18:13 -0700, by b...@proulx.com (Bob Proulx): set pager_index_lines=`test $(stty -a | sed -n '/rows/s/.*rows \([0-9][0-9]*\);.*/\1/p') -gt 30 echo 8 || echo 0`

Conditional Configuration in .muttrc

2008-12-28 Thread Bob Proulx
up with the following. This works. I can conditionally set the value by using a shell escape. set pager_index_lines=`test $(stty -a | sed -n '/rows/s/.*rows \([0-9][0-9]*\);.*/\1/p') -gt 30 echo 8 || echo 0` But is there a better way that I am missing? Is there a way in the muttrc

red background warning in .muttrc

2008-12-12 Thread rj
The following color definition in my .muttrc does what I want it to, but the 15k part of ~z15k is highlighted with a bright red background, which I believe is indicating to me that the way I have it written isn't quite correct. I tried various quotings and spacings but couldn't get rid of the red

Re: red background warning in .muttrc

2008-12-12 Thread rj
Also, in this bind .muttrc command, tag-subthread is red-highlighted, I'm not sure why: bind index -tag-subthread # Tag the current subthread. All my other bind commands have the empty char to the right of the command-name in red highlight, if I have a comment to the right

Re: red background warning in .muttrc

2008-12-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, December 12 at 03:06 PM, quoth rj: The following color definition in my .muttrc does what I want it to, but the 15k part of ~z15k is highlighted with a bright red background, which I believe is indicating to me that the way I have

Re: red background warning in .muttrc

2008-12-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, December 12 at 03:19 PM, quoth rj: Also, in this bind .muttrc command, tag-subthread is red-highlighted, I'm not sure why: bind index -tag-subthread # Tag the current subthread. Because I left it out of the list

Re: red background warning in .muttrc

2008-12-12 Thread rj
On Fri 12/12/08 at 02:56 PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler kyle-m...@memoryhole.net wrote: If you can find any more bugs in the highlighting, please let me know (though you can just send them straight to me; they don't have much to do with mutt itself, and would, if anything, be more appropriate to the

muttrc push sequence not always executed

2008-12-05 Thread Marianne Promberger
I have the following in my muttrc, as the last line: push tag-pattern~s abrechnungentertag-prefix-condclear-flagNsave-messageenterend-condsync-mailbox (I'm sending myself backups of a spreadsheet and want to immediately archive these to a different mail folder, unsetting the new flag

Re: muttrc push sequence not always executed

2008-12-05 Thread Christian Ebert
* Marianne Promberger on Friday, December 05, 2008 at 12:00:47 + I have the following in my muttrc, as the last line: push tag-pattern~s abrechnungentertag-prefix-condclear-flagNsave-messageenterend-condsync-mailbox (I'm sending myself backups of a spreadsheet and want to immediately

Re: muttrc push sequence not always executed

2008-12-05 Thread Marianne Promberger
On Friday, 05 December 2008, 13:24 (UTC+0100), Christian Ebert wrote: * Marianne Promberger on Friday, December 05, 2008 at 12:00:47 + I have the following in my muttrc, as the last line: push tag-pattern~s abrechnungentertag-prefix-condclear-flagNsave-messageenterend-condsync

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread tchomby
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 06:23:39PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Sunday, October 19 at 08:37 PM, quoth tchomby: Does anyone know how to bind ctrl+up in muttrc? I tried: bind index \Cup command but it doesn't work. That's a key that is difficult to bind (the arrow keys usually

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread Vladimir Marek
That's a key that is difficult to bind (the arrow keys usually are). Here's how I'd do it in your case: first, within mutt, type: :exec what-key Then press control-up, and see what happens. Thanks. Unfortunately my version of mutt is too old and doesn't have the what-key

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread Christian Ebert
* tchomby on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 14:40:05 +0100 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 06:23:39PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Sunday, October 19 at 08:37 PM, quoth tchomby: Does anyone know how to bind ctrl+up in muttrc? I tried: bind index \Cup command but it doesn't work. That's a key

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 21 at 04:26 PM, quoth Vladimir Marek: That's a key that is difficult to bind (the arrow keys usually are). Here's how I'd do it in your case: first, within mutt, type: :exec what-key Then press control-up, and see

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread Vladimir Marek
Hmmm, my week-or-so mutt does not have this either ... Yes it does, you're just looking for it in the wrong place. It's defined in the generic menu, which means it's available everywhere except in the pager and in the editor. See the manual for proof:

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 21 at 06:37 PM, quoth Vladimir Marek: Sheesh, doesn't *anybody* read the documentation anymore? From time to time I do, but I saw type :exec what-key, so I did. I'm sorry if it made you mad. Heh, it didn't make me mad. I was

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread tchomby
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41:14AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Tuesday, October 21 at 06:37 PM, quoth Vladimir Marek: Sheesh, doesn't *anybody* read the documentation anymore? From time to time I do, but I saw type :exec what-key, so I did. I'm sorry if it made you mad. Heh, it

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-21 Thread tchomby
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:27:33PM +0200, Christian Ebert wrote: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14), I don't think so. Perhaps you tried while being in the pager? AFAICS you have to be in index or browser for what-key to work. You're right, thanks. Unfortunately my keyboard gives weird

Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-19 Thread tchomby
Does anyone know how to bind ctrl+up in muttrc? I tried: bind index \Cup command but it doesn't work. Thanks

Re: Bind ctrl+up in muttrc

2008-10-19 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, October 19 at 08:37 PM, quoth tchomby: Does anyone know how to bind ctrl+up in muttrc? I tried: bind index \Cup command but it doesn't work. That's a key that is difficult to bind (the arrow keys usually are). Here's how I'd do

securing muttrc on the mac

2008-08-08 Thread dv1445
Hello, A week or two ago there was a thread about how to secure one's .muttrc file if it has passwords sitting there in plaintext. A bit of tooling around has resulted in the following tip for those mutters working on OSX. The goal is not to encrypt the .muttrc, but rather to cleanse

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-31 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand
laptop. Hi, Provided you have shell access on your imap host, ssh can help you eleminate all passwords from you muttrc: 1) generate a ssh key with a passphrase identical to you login password, 2) when entering your gnome or kde session your key should be decrypted, (if using xdm then you need

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-31 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:39:58PM +0100, Michele Martone wrote: So there I see no legitimate way of breaking mutt's environment via source or exec mutt keywords. We're not talking about breaking anything. We're talking about someone getting your passphrases to your encryption keys by reading

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?]

2008-07-30 Thread Michele Martone
PROTECTED]:port]/ All easy, straightforward. No odds with certificates, as they are handled by mutt directly. And all of the configuration (er.. except fetchmail and isync AFAIK) is in plaintext muttrc and some gpg encrypted helper muttrc chunk. So Michael's solution : source gpg -d

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-30 Thread Michele Martone
As far as I know (and `man environ`, `man popen`) is that : - the environment can be only changed internally, via putenv(), setenv() POSIX calls. - the mutt backtick-based commands, like | terminated 'source's does not perform any of the 'execve,execl,...' functions nor 'fork', but

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Kyle Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-28 16:52 -0500]: On Monday, July 28 at 09:29 PM, quoth Michael Kjorling: Something like this: source gpg -d sensitivestuff.gpg | No. That can't work (but we can salvage this idea). First, let me explain why it can't work. Think about it:

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread Michele Martone
by setting : smtp[s]://[user[:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port]/ All easy, straightforward. No odds with certificates, as they are handled by mutt directly. And all of the configuration (er.. except fetchmail and isync AFAIK) is in plaintext muttrc and some gpg encrypted helper muttrc chunk. So

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread Kyle Wheeler
that only works in the muttrc, I tried putting it there: source echo set my_var | But when I ran mutt, I got this: Error in echo set my_var |, line 1: my_var: unknown variable Error in /Users/kyle/.muttrc, line 3485: source: errors in echo set my_var | source: errors

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread David Champion
of surprised you've missed my dozens of messages recommending source with pipes, Kyle. :) It's super useful. My entire muttrc is generated this way. Thanks to the OP for asking the question, though. I hadn't thought of using programmic sources to encrypt sensitive muttrc files. Embedding

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 29 Jul 2008 14:14 -0500, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Champion): I was going to suggest this approach as well, although I'd have proposed openssl enc instead of gpg, I guess. Not much call for an asymmetric cipher here, especially as the point is to store secret data on a Off topic, but

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread Kyle Wheeler
of surprised you've missed my dozens of messages recommending source with pipes, Kyle. :) It's super useful. My entire muttrc is generated this way. As am I... dang, that is pretty slick. Gotta love learning new tricks. :) (I still think source is a bad keyword to use for this functionality, but I

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:54:40PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Monday, July 28 at 07:56 PM, quoth Derek Martin: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:58:00PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Nothing will be stored in plaintext on disk, your encryption is guaranteed to be world-class, and best of all: it

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Kjorling
that I guess would be workable would be a dm-crypt/LUKS encrypted USB memory stick holding the sensitive part of the O.P.'s muttrc, and source this from within ~/.muttrc. This USB memory stick can be mounted read only under normal use and in fact should only need to be mounted when mutt is actually

mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Michele Martone
, is about a bunch of text files. So lately I'm experimenting a more gentle approach, namely using a file (stored in my home directory) encrypted with LUKS, containing a directory containing the important data (a passwords-only .muttrc, a .msmtprc, a .fetchmailrc, and an .isyncrc). Setting some sudo stuff

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Justin Mazzola Paluska
passwords. 2. On my home machine, I use GPG to decrypt the password part of the muttrc. In both cases, my .mutt/muttrc is in plaintext, which sources the output of either the GNOME Keyring script or the GPG script. —Justin

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Kyle Wheeler
ACCT3_PASS=yetanotherpassword Then, once you've encrypted it, you can create a wrapper command for mutt that will decrypt it and use it to put those passwords into mutt's environment: #!/bin/sh pwds=`gpg --decrypt ~/.passwords` eval $pwds exec mutt $@ And finally, in your muttrc, you

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Michele Martone
On [EMAIL PROTECTED]:35, Justin Mazzola Paluska wrote: ... 2. On my home machine, I use GPG to decrypt the password part of the muttrc. uhm. could you give some examples for this solution ? it seems to require no external workarounds at all, so it seems neat! i experimented with `gpg

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Michele Martone
that `gpg --decrypt` straight into the muttrc. but Gandalf's advice is appropriated - this is enough for now :) On [EMAIL PROTECTED]:58, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Monday, July 28 at 05:12 PM, quoth Michele Martone: I was wondering about some way to protect the passwords potentially stored in the mutt

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Michele Martone
ehm. one more thing. how would you deal with the MTA with the wrapper-based solution ? i know only of : using nbsmtp, in a dangerous way: set sendmail=nbsmtp -P password ... using ssmtp , in a dangerous way: set sendmail=ssmtp -ap password ... or using msmtp with 'password'

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Kyle Wheeler
one could use multi line shell expansion, and place that `gpg --decrypt` straight into the muttrc. Well, I thought about that. We can solve it, but there are drawbacks (such as needing other software, or using a temporary file). For example, if you use gpg-agent to store your passphrase

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 28 Jul 2008 21:53 +0100, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michele Martone): still I can't stand the need of a wrapper.. if only one could use multi line shell expansion, and place that `gpg --decrypt` straight into the muttrc. I haven't tried it, but I can't get it out of my head... wouldn't sourcing

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 28 at 10:13 PM, quoth Michele Martone: ehm. one more thing. how would you deal with the MTA with the wrapper-based solution ? Personally? I'd compile mutt with smtp support and be done with it. i know only of : using nbsmtp, in a

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Michele Martone
] (Michele Martone): ... source gpg -d sensitivestuff.gpg | and sensitivestuff being just another muttrc snippet.

Re: mutt and plaintext passwords : muttrc encryption ?

2008-07-28 Thread Kyle Wheeler
every time it needs the value of $signature whereas (in the case of backtics) mutt runs it only when reading the muttrc file. With that in mind, re-examine the idea of using source. Does it make sense to say use the output of this command whenever you need the value of ... source?. What you're

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