Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-10 Thread Zak Greant
On Aug 09, 2004, at 17:56, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: This is confusing. There are *two* official places to discuss the licensing and community issues? Ugh. Or am I misunderstanding things? The licensing forum seems to generally be used provide quick answers on licensing questions for proprietary soft

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-06 Thread Zak Greant
Hi Mike, On Aug 06, 2004, at 18:08, mos wrote: This means that, according to the most common interpretation of the GPL, just linking with them automatically requires your code be under the GPL. License: >>The GPL license is contagious in the sense that when a program is linked to a GPL program, al

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-06 Thread mos
At 11:24 AM 8/2/2004, you wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 01:35:44 -0700, Jeremy Zawodny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 01:26:15PM -0500, gerald_clark wrote: > > > > Steve Richter wrote: > > > > >exactly! Is Linux distributed under the same type of license as MySql? If > > >I sel

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-06 Thread Zak Greant
Greetings All, LinuxWorld is now finished (meaning that some of the key MySQL people who need to be in on these discussions will be back to a more normal working setup) and the weekend is more or less here. I hope to pick up discussions on these issues with the other MySQLers on Monday (or to w

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-04 Thread Zak Greant
Greetings All, I walked through the mailing list thread earlier today. The big issues that I believe that people raised were: * Incorrect information on distribution as it applies to the GPL in our licensing documents * Lack of clarity from MySQL on what is and not acceptable use of GPL-licen

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-03 Thread Zak Greant
Hi Jeremy, Greetings All, First, thank you for taking the time to discuss this issue. It is important that people let us know when they upset with us. Next, it is clear that we need to look at the issues that were raised by this thread. When more of the right people from MySQL return from Linux

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-03 Thread Issac Goldstand
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Issac Goldstand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/08/2004 09:47:31: > > - Original Message - > > From: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Well, I'm not so sure. Here it is straight from the horses mouth > namely > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-03 Thread Alec . Cawley
"Issac Goldstand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/08/2004 09:47:31: > > - Original Message - > From: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Well, I'm not so sure. Here it is straight from the horses mouth namely > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >> > > "Free use for those who never copy, > > modi

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-03 Thread Issac Goldstand
- Original Message - From: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 03:41 AM 8/2/2004, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 11:49:02PM -0500, mos wrote: > > > At 04:43 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote: > > > > > > >looks like the answer is no. As soon as fee based software touches the > > > >my

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 03:11:10PM -0500, mos wrote: > At 03:41 AM 8/2/2004, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > > > >I bet it depends on the country. In the USA, companies are considered > >singular legal entities. "Internal distribution" is aking to giving > >copies to yourself. > > > >The GPL doesn't rest

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread mos
At 03:41 AM 8/2/2004, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 11:49:02PM -0500, mos wrote: > At 04:43 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote: > > >looks like the answer is no. As soon as fee based software touches the > >mysql install on the PC, the user is obligated to pay the $250. > > Actually I believe

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:24:59AM -0700, Marc Slemko wrote: > > I believe that MySQL AB is deliberately vague and confusing on their > licensing page to try to get people to buy mysql licenses. All > their words there don't matter though, what matters is the actual > license. It would, however,

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread Marc Slemko
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 01:35:44 -0700, Jeremy Zawodny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 01:26:15PM -0500, gerald_clark wrote: > > > > Steve Richter wrote: > > > > >exactly! Is Linux distributed under the same type of license as MySql? If > > >I sell software that runs on linux I do

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread Alec . Cawley
Jeremy Zawodny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/08/2004 09:41:40: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 11:49:02PM -0500, mos wrote: > > At 04:43 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote: > > > > >looks like the answer is no. As soon as fee based software touches the > > >mysql install on the PC, the user is obligated to pa

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 11:49:02PM -0500, mos wrote: > At 04:43 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote: > > >looks like the answer is no. As soon as fee based software touches the > >mysql install on the PC, the user is obligated to pay the $250. > > Actually I believe the MySQL 4.x license is more stringent t

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:43:58PM -0400, Steve Richter wrote: > > looks like the answer is no. As soon as fee based software touches the > mysql install on the PC, the user is obligated to pay the $250. At least I > guess it is the user who has to pay. So a copy of MySQL on Windows is free unt

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-08-02 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 01:26:15PM -0500, gerald_clark wrote: > > Steve Richter wrote: > > >exactly! Is Linux distributed under the same type of license as MySql? If > >I sell software that runs on linux I dont have to give away my code, right? > >To use my software you first have to install no

RE: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread mos
At 04:43 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote: looks like the answer is no. As soon as fee based software touches the mysql install on the PC, the user is obligated to pay the $250. Actually I believe the MySQL 4.x license is more stringent than that. If the MySQL database is distributed within a company for

RE: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread Steve Richter
-Original Message- From: Laercio Xisto Braga Cavalcanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:06 PM To: 'gerald_clark'; 'Steve Richter' Cc: 'chat. mysql.' Subject: RE: using mysql in commercial software Hi all, If I write a comercial soft

RE: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread SGreen
. > > -Original Message- > From: gerald_clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: segunda-feira, 26 de julho de 2004 15:26 > To: Steve Richter > Cc: chat. mysql. > Subject: Re: using mysql in commercial software > > > > Steve Richter wrote: > > >-

RE: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread Laercio Xisto Braga Cavalcanti
: Steve Richter Cc: chat. mysql. Subject: Re: using mysql in commercial software Steve Richter wrote: >-Original Message- >From: Michael Abbott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:28 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: using mysql in comm

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread gerald_clark
Steve Richter wrote: -Original Message- From: Michael Abbott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: using mysql in commercial software This may not be strictly legal, but you could have the end user download MySQL.. to

RE: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread Steve Richter
-Original Message- From: Michael Abbott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: using mysql in commercial software >This may not be strictly legal, but you could have the end user download >MySQL.. to run with your so

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread Aman Raheja
uot;Steve Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "chat. mysql." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:49 PM > Subject: Re: using mysql in commercial software > > > > If you go through the online manual of mysql, it points out that mysql &

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread Issac Goldstand
c: "chat. mysql." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:49 PM Subject: Re: using mysql in commercial software > If you go through the online manual of mysql, it points out that mysql > can be used under gpl (then you have to be giving away the source code &g

Re: using mysql in commercial software

2004-07-26 Thread Aman Raheja
If you go through the online manual of mysql, it points out that mysql can be used under gpl (then you have to be giving away the source code for your software with mysql) or else you have to purchase mysql commercially. In your case you sure need to buy it. On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 08:11, Steve Ric