Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-21 Thread ffrr
Michael Cowell wrote: ffrr wrote: Actually, running mythfrontend from a terminal still generates a long list of errors when TV is being watched. I have pasted a selection below. Is this normal for DVB streams received? I usually get junk like that too - even with streams that seem p

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread ffrr
Tom Lichti wrote: ffrr wrote: btw: one thing that didn't work was when knoppmyth asked if the ethernet interface should use dhcp I said yes. This failed (sometimes the dhcp server in my NAT firewall/router plays up) but it didn't go back and let me do it manually. Now there's no ethernet

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread tgate
On Oct 20, 2005, at 8:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:kill mythfrontend, open up an xterm, su mythtv-setup  Can you not just run "/usr/bin/setup" ?  I'm pretty sure this will take you to a menu that you can use to setup your network.___ mythtv-users mailin

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Lichti
Andrew Close wrote: KnoppMyth is just Linux after all, so you can do anything with it that you can do with other distros. i don't remember if you can reconfigure your network using the install scripts from the cmd line or not, but it wouldn't hurt to try. kill mythfrontend, open up an xterm, su

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread Andrew Close
On 10/20/05, ffrr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Close wrote: > >i second that. if you're going to start over you may want to give > >another distro a try. KnoppMyth is a pretty quick and very painless > >install. it has full support for all Myth's many wonderful features > >OOtB (out of t

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Lichti
ffrr wrote: btw: one thing that didn't work was when knoppmyth asked if the ethernet interface should use dhcp I said yes. This failed (sometimes the dhcp server in my NAT firewall/router plays up) but it didn't go back and let me do it manually. Now there's no ethernet interface configur

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 10/20/2005 3:53 AM ffrr wrote: Andrew Close wrote: How about trying one of the "quickstart" distros like KnoppMyth or MythDora. Personally, I moved away from the Mandrake based distros a while ago. Too much overhead. If you're feeling up to the challenge, you can install Gentoo and crea

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 10/19/2005 8:51 PM Simpson, Richard wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ffrr Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:25:15 -0400 David wrote: Well, if you want a full-blown desktop distro, I can't recomme

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-20 Thread ffrr
Andrew Close wrote: How about trying one of the "quickstart" distros like KnoppMyth or MythDora. Personally, I moved away from the Mandrake based distros a while ago. Too much overhead. If you're feeling up to the challenge, you can install Gentoo and create a truly customized Myth install. It'

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread ffrr
Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:52:09 +1000 ffrr wrote: Are you using kernel 2.6.11.x or 2.6.13.x? Yes. At least, the file in the boot directory is vmlinuz-2.6.11-6mdk. The distro I am using is Mandriva 2005LE. the correct way to find out is running uname -r

RE: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread Simpson, Richard
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ffrr > > Nick Rout wrote: > > >On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:25:15 -0400 > >David wrote: > > > > > > > >>Well, if you want a full-blown desktop distro, I can't > recommend Fedora > >>Core 4 highly enough.

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread ffrr
Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:25:15 -0400 David wrote: Well, if you want a full-blown desktop distro, I can't recommend Fedora Core 4 highly enough. IMO it's the best platform for both Myth *and* desktop work. I've never like Mandrake/Mandriva much myself. My local lug r

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:25:15 -0400 David wrote: > Well, if you want a full-blown desktop distro, I can't recommend Fedora > Core 4 highly enough. IMO it's the best platform for both Myth *and* > desktop work. I've never like Mandrake/Mandriva much myself. My local lug refers to it as Mandriv

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread David
ffrr wrote: I have installed knoppmyth a little while back on another machine. I totally agree that it's a good way to go, except I also want to use this machine as a day to day home desktop. So, for a desktop machine, I like KDE and it's support apps such as K3B, and I don't think knoppmyt

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:52:09 +1000 ffrr wrote: > > Are you using kernel 2.6.11.x or 2.6.13.x? > > > Yes. At least, the file in the boot directory is vmlinuz-2.6.11-6mdk. > The distro I am using is Mandriva 2005LE. the correct way to find out is running uname -r -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread ffrr
Andrew Close wrote: On 10/19/05, Alex Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 19 October 2005 05:34 pm, ffrr wrote: My current plan of attack is to wait for the Mandriva 2006 upgrade to become public and try that, before going down the route of shelling out money on a new car

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread Andrew Close
On 10/19/05, Alex Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 October 2005 05:34 pm, ffrr wrote: > > My current plan of attack is to wait for the Mandriva 2006 upgrade to > > become public and try that, before going down the route of shelling out > > money on a new card. > > How about tryin

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread Alex Cruz
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 05:34 pm, ffrr wrote: > ffrr wrote: > Sad to report, it isn't fixed. I think it's better than it was, but > it's the sort of thing that is variable, and time will tell over the > next week. However, the glitches still show up from time to time. > > > My current plan o

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread ffrr
ffrr wrote: Oh boy, I certainly hope you are right.I didn't think of interrupts, but that certainly might be the problem. Turns out the card was sharing interrupts with a whole bunch of stuff, including the SATA raid, nForce2 etc... I have moved it, physically and it is on a differen

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-19 Thread Kristian Kalweit
Tj schrieb: Are you using kernel 2.6.11.x or 2.6.13.x? I have problems getting my DVB cards to play well with MythTV using the above kernel versions, even though xine plays back DVB stuffs without a hitch. Rolling back to kernel 2.6.10 or 2.6.12 and MythTV works again. Are there any rela

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Tj wrote: ffrr wrote: Actually, running mythfrontend from a terminal still generates a long list of errors when TV is being watched. I have pasted a selection below. Is this normal for DVB streams received? [mpeg2video @ 0xb77d0434]Warning MVs not available [mpeg2video @ 0xb77d0434]ac-tex

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Steve Adeff
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 23:33, Tj wrote: > ffrr wrote: > > Actually, running mythfrontend from a terminal still generates a long > > list of errors when TV is being watched. I have pasted a selection > > below. Is this normal for DVB streams received? > > > > [mpeg2video @ 0xb77d0434]Warning M

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv (OT)

2005-10-18 Thread Alex Cruz
You're right. MS will do just about anything..as long as you keep paying. I was actually referring to their SALES reps who lure you in, get you to sign a contract and then disappear to leave you high and dry until your contract is up for renewal. Theives. -alex On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:1

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Tj
ffrr wrote: Actually, running mythfrontend from a terminal still generates a long list of errors when TV is being watched. I have pasted a selection below. Is this normal for DVB streams received? [mpeg2video @ 0xb77d0434]Warning MVs not available [mpeg2video @ 0xb77d0434]ac-tex damaged at

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Michael Cowell
ffrr wrote: ffrr wrote: Can i suggest that you run mythfrontend from an xterm with logging turned on. Watch for errors like audio overrun. If they seem to coincide with glitches in viewing take careful note. Of course mythfrontend usually runs fuull screen and obscures the xterm with the

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
ffrr wrote: Can i suggest that you run mythfrontend from an xterm with logging turned on. Watch for errors like audio overrun. If they seem to coincide with glitches in viewing take careful note. Of course mythfrontend usually runs fuull screen and obscures the xterm with the logging info.

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Michael Cowell
ffrr wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think sometimes people make posts like this out of frustration because they don't understand enough about the "problem" they see (or think they see) to ask a more intelligent question, or don't have the trouble-shooting skills to enlighten themselves.

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Michael Cowell wrote: I had very similar problems with my Twinhan. It turned out to be because of a shared interrupt (the bt878 chipsets don't play nicely with others). Similarly to you, the problem only showed up in myth, because myth was using the other device (another bt878, analog this

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:03:02 +1000 ffrr wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >I think sometimes people make posts like this out of frustration because > >they don't > >understand enough about the "problem" they see (or think they see) to ask a > >more > >intelligent question, or don't h

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Nick Rout wrote: I have read bits of this thread, not all of it. However I seem to recall similar problems a while back being solved by fixing the audio - ie it was an audio problem. When the audio driver/hardware couldn't keep up the system would freeze momentarily while something caught up.

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think sometimes people make posts like this out of frustration because they don't understand enough about the "problem" they see (or think they see) to ask a more intelligent question, or don't have the trouble-shooting skills to enlighten themselves. So, folks on

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Isaac Richards wrote: Why do people bother responding to this kind of crap? If someone is being so ignorant as to threaten to use another software package just to get some attention, let them. It was merely an exaggeration to illustrate my point. Of course, I can't use Kaffeine to repl

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread match
On 18 Oct 2005 at 14:16, Isaac Richards wrote: > > > Why do people bother responding to this kind of crap? If someone is being so > ignorant as to threaten to use another software package just to get some > attention, let them. Seems like a good scheme to get a lot of replies, but I > think

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Graham Dunn
Alex Cruz wrote: >[snip] > > >The way I see it if we can maintain people, more people will join by word of >mouth and the project will flourish. Let's not follow MS's lead in regards to >"customer service". Have a good one. > > Actually, Microsoft has one of the best customer service depart

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Alex Cruz
Sometimes things are lost in translation. I've learned this from being married to someone that isn't Spanish like I am. Human nature is to lash out when frustrated with these types of situations. The thing about this thread is that we were able to extract a better description of the problem in

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Isaac Richards
Why do people bother responding to this kind of crap? If someone is being so ignorant as to threaten to use another software package just to get some attention, let them. Seems like a good scheme to get a lot of replies, but I think it's pretty idiotic. Isaac ___

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Allan Mcintosh
What type of input are you using for cable in? Coax, S-Video, Composite? I have often been amazed with the increase in picture quality after replacing a cheap coaxial cable, or the difference from . I now use a short, direct unshared input (S-Video) straight in from the receiver. Are you sta

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Alex Cruz
Ah, DVB cards. There's a reason I decided to stick with the plain old PVR-250. Since I only have cable (I can't get Direct or Dish in my current location) and I've decided to wait until 2010 for HDTV to standardize (my theory of when the US will get it's crap together) the 250 was an obvious c

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin Kuphal
ffrr wrote: Phill Edwards wrote: Despite this, I keep hearing that a new version of myth isn't warranted yet? What do I have to do - get an SVN version (not really a good option)? None , or very few, responses to the messages and problems I have recently posted about. Do I take this to mean

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Kalle Pokki wrote: ffrr wrote: What I see is a sudden patch of digital noise / pixelisation, often associated with a chirping sound in the audio. This might happen every few seconds for a while then go away for a minute or two, only to return randomly. Also it is of various severities, som

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Peter Osterberg wrote: It truely sounds like bad signal reception. On old police scanners there's a "squelsh" setting to tell the radio at what signal/noise level to cut audio to the speaker. I remeber one setting in Myth that has to do with something that could be compareable to this illustra

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Kalle Pokki
ffrr wrote: What I see is a sudden patch of digital noise / pixelisation, often associated with a chirping sound in the audio. This might happen every few seconds for a while then go away for a minute or two, only to return randomly. Also it is of various severities, sometimes just a minor

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Peter Osterberg
It truely sounds like bad signal reception. On old police scanners there's a "squelsh" setting to tell the radio at what signal/noise level to cut audio to the speaker. I remeber one setting in Myth that has to do with something that could be compareable to this illustrative example. My guessing

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Dag Nygren wrote: Alex Cruz wrote: Truly, I was blaming the antenna and all sorts of things until I discovered Kaffeine doesn't suffer nearly as bad as myth. Kaffeine only show a glitch very occasionally. Other TV's and digital set top boxes in my house show virtually flawless pic

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Niels Dybdahl wrote: > As for picture quality in LiveTV and recording, what I >am watching is acceptable for non-HD television. > What is frustrating is that the picture from my DVB card is excellent, even in myth when it's not glitching. Myth must be using it differen

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Niels Dybdahl
> As for picture quality in LiveTV and recording, what I>am watching is acceptable for non-HD television. >What is frustrating is that the picture from my DVB card is excellent,even in myth when it's not glitching.   Myth must be using itdifferently to Kaffeine (which uses Xine) as obviously the dr

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Phill Edwards wrote: Despite this, I keep hearing that a new version of myth isn't warranted yet? What do I have to do - get an SVN version (not really a good option)? None , or very few, responses to the messages and problems I have recently posted about. Do I take this to mean noone really

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Dag Nygren
> Alex Cruz wrote: > Truly, I was blaming the antenna and all sorts of things until I > discovered Kaffeine doesn't suffer nearly as bad as myth. Kaffeine only > show a glitch very occasionally. Other TV's and digital set top boxes > in my house show virtually flawless pictures (we have a goo

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Alex Cruz wrote: I suppose it all depends on what you are looking for. If you want a HTPC, then MythTV is one option. There's also Freevo under Linux and several "free" one's under Windows. Yes I tried Freevo. Not too bad. Mythtv has many more features, but if the basics don't work then.

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Phill Edwards
> Despite this, I keep hearing that a new version of myth isn't warranted > yet? What do I have to do - get an SVN version (not really a good > option)? None , or very few, responses to the messages and problems I > have recently posted about. Do I take this to mean noone really knows > much abo

Re: [mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread Alex Cruz
I suppose it all depends on what you are looking for. If you want a HTPC, then MythTV is one option. There's also Freevo under Linux and several "free" one's under Windows. As for picture quality in LiveTV and recording, what I am watching is acceptable for non-HD television. On my system I use

[mythtv-users] Starting to think I should use Kaffeine instead of Mythtv

2005-10-18 Thread ffrr
Really getting tiresome having glitchy live and recorded TV. Kaffeine's picture and sound is much cleaner from the same DVB card using the same channels.conf file for tuning parameters. What is myth doing differently? Also, sick of mythfrontend just quitting outright (seg fault) trying to pl