Re: puzzling email (getting OT)

2011-10-20 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 20 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: [snip] It's a long time since I used Pluto, but my recollection is that it doesn't treat HTML attachments any differently to any other type of attachment: You double click on it, a temporary copy is saved and that's filer_run. It

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-20 Thread lists
In article mpro.lt9ogc00bji230270.vi...@softrock.co.uk, Vince M Hudd vi...@softrock.co.uk wrote: The bottom line, for users of Pluto, is that if you want to see attached images displayed in the HTML, you'll need to save and manually edit. (Remote images should be fine, of course). I use

Re: puzzling email (getting OT)

2011-10-20 Thread Brian Bailey
[snip] Anyway this is getting off-topic here; should it be continued on the MPro list? Not really, Peter. Well, not yet anyway! For a start I don't use MessengerPro. I suspected I would get a response similar to yours. The problem is that I frequently get messages that are treated by Pluto

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-20 Thread Vince M Hudd
lists stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk wrote: In article mpro.lt9ogc00bji230270.vi...@softrock.co.uk, Vince M Hudd vi...@softrock.co.uk wrote: The bottom line, for users of Pluto, is that if you want to see attached images displayed in the HTML, you'll need to save and manually edit.

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-20 Thread Vince M Hudd
Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: [snip] [...] I see that you use [Messenger Pro] I use Messenger Pro for Windows, which is a different beast, so I'm afraid you'll have to ask someone else (and somewhere more appropriate) to find out how the RISC OS version handles HTML attachments.

Re: puzzling email (getting OT)

2011-10-20 Thread cj
In article 5225151bf7bbai...@argonet.co.uk, Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: I got into a real tangle with a business person. Neither of us could read/render correctly each others HTML files, sent to and from each other via email, cross platform, and it mattered. ... but this is

Re: puzzling email (getting OT)

2011-10-20 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 20 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: [snip] Anyway this is getting off-topic here; should it be continued on the MPro list? Not really, Peter. Well, not yet anyway! For a start I don't use MessengerPro. I suspected I would get a response similar to yours. The

List Focus [Was Re: puzzling email]

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Silverstone
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:57:21AM +0100, Vince M Hudd wrote: Either way, this is now off-topic. Indeed it is. It was off topic about four mails in. Please don't sprawl your RISC OS discussions on this list. I'm sure there're places where you don't irritate many people while doing so. I've

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Brian Bailey
I ran the html file which was with the message, which appears as an attchment, in !Pluto, in NetSurf. The BMP file was also an attachment to the message. NetSurf tried to load the file. End of. NetSurf has full support for BMP images. Thanks, John. Noted, but NetSurf clearly doesn't

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Brian Bailey
I ran the html file which was with the message, which appears as an attchment, in !Pluto, in NetSurf. The BMP file was also an attachment to the message. NetSurf tried to load the file. End of. OK. But an html message or web page shouldn't contain BMP images. On what basis shouldn't

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread John Harrison
... NetSurf, which has its own routines for BMP decoding[1]. Whatever ChangeFSI does is not going to affect NetSurf. However, the test that I did showed that with ImageFS2 running on the machine, its settings did affect what NetSurf did. I don't know enough about the mechanics to know

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Tim Hill
In article 5223f8af84bbai...@argonet.co.uk, Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: I ran the html file which was with the message, which appears as an attchment, in !Pluto, in NetSurf. The BMP file was also an attachment to the message. NetSurf tried to load the file. End of. OK.

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread David J. Ruck
On 18/10/2011 11:25, John Harrison wrote: ... NetSurf, which has its own routines for BMP decoding[1]. Whatever ChangeFSI does is not going to affect NetSurf. However, the test that I did showed that with ImageFS2 running on the machine, its settings did affect what NetSurf did. I don't

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Vince M Hudd
John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 07:37 +0100, Brian Bailey wrote: [HTML from an email renders without the BMP graphic] OK. So this has nothing to do with BMP images at all. The bitmap you sent me renders fine here. What is happening is that Pluto fails

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Brian Bailey
In article 52240dc1act...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 522408c273bbai...@argonet.co.uk, Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: OK. So this has nothing to do with BMP images at all. The bitmap you sent me renders fine here. It

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Brian Bailey
[biggish snip} Not my problem. It was commercial, thus drawing my attention to the event. Would there be any point in telling a suit that he's sending out files in formats he /perhaps/ shouldn't? Only if you can tell him he's losing potential sales. Well, in a round about way he was

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread David J. Ruck
On 18/10/2011 19:46, Chris Young wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:43:01 +0100, John-Mark Bell wrote: What is happening is that Pluto fails to rewrite the image reference in the HTML document, so NetSurf attempts to fetch a file that doesn't exist, and instead builds an error page, which then

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Young
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:35:12 +0100, David J. Ruck wrote: On 18/10/2011 19:46, Chris Young wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:43:01 +0100, John-Mark Bell wrote: What is happening is that Pluto fails to rewrite the image reference in the HTML document, so NetSurf attempts to fetch a file that

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Richard Porter
On 18 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey wrote: OK. But an html message or web page shouldn't contain BMP images. On what basis shouldn't it, please? It's the first time I've seen a BMP file employed in this way. If this is likely to become a more common procedure then surely NetSurf developers would

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Richard Porter
On 19 Oct 2011 Richard Porter wrote: On 18 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey wrote: OK. But an html message or web page shouldn't contain BMP images. On what basis shouldn't it, please? It's the first time I've seen a BMP file employed in this way. If this is likely to become a more common procedure

puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread Brian Bailey
Hi I just got an email from i4imaging which included a file oleO.bmp which NetSurf didn't like very much declaring BadType as it was fetching and processing. Said file didn't seem to render. Are bmp file a no go area, perhaps? Cheers

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread John Williams
In article 5223956cc4bbai...@argonet.co.uk, Brian Bailey bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: I just got an email from i4imaging which included a file oleO.bmp which NetSurf didn't like very much declaring BadType as it was fetching and processing. Said file didn't seem to render. Are bmp file a no

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 04:10:32PM +0100, Brian Bailey wrote: John I just got an email from i4imaging which included a file oleO.bmp which NetSurf didn't like very much declaring BadType as it was fetching and processing. Said file didn't seem to render. Are bmp file a no go area,

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread John Harrison
My BMP file starts with the characters 'BM' as viewed in a text editor. It does indeed start with 'BM' but I'm mostly sure that it wasn't generated with DPIngScan. Bound to be from the dark side, really, but it does beg the question how many other BadFile types might there be lurking out

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Porter
On 17 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey wrote: I just got an email from i4imaging which included a file oleO.bmp which NetSurf didn't like very much declaring BadType as it was fetching and processing. Said file didn't seem to render. Are bmp file a no go area, perhaps? Could that be because NetSurf is

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 21:56 +0100, Brian Bailey wrote: I ran the html file which was with the message, which appears as an attchment, in !Pluto, in NetSurf. The BMP file was also an attachment to the message. NetSurf tried to load the file. End of. NetSurf has full support for BMP images.

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Porter
On 17 Oct 2011 John-Mark Bell wrote: NetSurf has full support for BMP images. You're right it does! -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that

Re: puzzling email

2011-10-17 Thread Chris Young
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:19:56 +0100, Richard Porter wrote: On 17 Oct 2011 Brian Bailey wrote: I ran the html file which was with the message, which appears as an attchment, in !Pluto, in NetSurf. The BMP file was also an attachment to the message. NetSurf tried to load the file. End of.