Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-30 Thread Lanman
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 29 September 2004 08:58, Lanman wrote: I really hate it when you do that! Just when I thought I had found a challenging intellectual adversary, you go and agree with me on something! Damn! Where's Albert Einstein when ya need him? *Snicker*! I like to keep my

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-30 Thread et
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 04:37, Stephen Kühn wrote: ..you must be as stoned as you think I am... was then... -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-29 Thread et
On Friday 24 September 2004 17:46, Lanman wrote: Glad to be of service gents! Sigh! Now I'm off to scrape the callouses off of my fingertips. but still have not learned one iota about how to setup oGo, adn what I did learn was just enough to have me try out the install of ogo, enough to bork

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-29 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 18:27, et wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 17:46, Lanman wrote: Glad to be of service gents! Sigh! Now I'm off to scrape the callouses off of my fingertips. but still have not learned one iota about how to setup oGo, adn what I did learn was just enough to have me

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-29 Thread Lanman
et wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 17:46, Lanman wrote: Glad to be of service gents! Sigh! Now I'm off to scrape the callouses off of my fingertips. but still have not learned one iota about how to setup oGo, adn what I did learn was just enough to have me try out the install of ogo, enough to

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-29 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 07:45, Lanman wrote: IMNSHO, It should be left on a development list somewhere until it it at least configurable. Further research on OGO has shown that the SOPE components won't compile on Mandrake 10.0, and without that you're left with several hours or days

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-29 Thread Lanman
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 29 September 2004 07:45, Lanman wrote: IMNSHO, It should be left on a development list somewhere until it it at least configurable. Further research on OGO has shown that the SOPE components won't compile on Mandrake 10.0, and without that you're left with

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-29 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 08:58, Lanman wrote: I really hate it when you do that! Just when I thought I had found a challenging intellectual adversary, you go and agree with me on something! Damn! Where's Albert Einstein when ya need him? *Snicker*! I like to keep my opponents off-guard

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Scott Rineer
Maybe you are using the wrong Distro. since that is what Mandrake is about. maybe you should look at Gentoo :) snip Sorry, I simply don't agree. If making it easier means sacrificing features, freedom, customization, then I don't want it to be any easier./snip On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 19:00,

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 24 September 2004 08:44, Scott Rineer wrote: Maybe you are using the wrong Distro. since that is what Mandrake is about. According to who? maybe you should look at Gentoo :) If you want an MS replacement, I believe that is pretty much the stated goal of Linspire. -- Bryan

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 24 September 2004 14:44, Scott Rineer wrote: Maybe you are using the wrong Distro. since that is what Mandrake is about.  maybe you should look at Gentoo :) snip Sorry, I simply don't agree.  If making it easier means sacrificing features, freedom, customization, then I don't want

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Lanman
Here we go again, Bryan Phinney wrote: I don't really need one, and I am not questioning whether you have contributed or helped someone. I am questioning the tone of your second message that was basically, if I can't get this to work and no one helps me to get it working, then Gnu/Linux isn't

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 24 September 2004 10:31, Lanman wrote: To clarify this, I meant that consumers will expect Linux (read as Linux and Open-Source software) to be installable and usable without the type of problems that I've encountered with OGO. While they may experience no difficulty in getting

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Lanman
Here's the last of it Bryan, Bryan Phinney wrote: Well, let's just get down to the bottom line here, rather than continuing what appears to be a pointless debate. This is the first and only thing you wrote that makes perfect sense to me. I asked the list for help and bitched about OGO and the

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:00:26 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the last of it Bryan, Bryan Phinney wrote: Well, let's just get down to the bottom line here, rather than continuing what appears to be a pointless debate. This is the first and only thing you wrote that makes

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 24 September 2004 18:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Thanks for the discussion.  It helped me understand both my frustration at putting the office back on win2k and reinforced my intention of nailing them with mdk again next year. Yep, It was an interesting little joust wasn't it? Picked up

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 24 September 2004 16:10, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 18:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Thanks for the discussion.  It helped me understand both my frustration at putting the office back on win2k and reinforced my intention of nailing them with mdk again next year.

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-24 Thread Lanman
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 16:10, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 18:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Thanks for the discussion. It helped me understand both my frustration at putting the office back on win2k and reinforced my intention of nailing them with mdk again

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:21:28 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any luck getting OpenGroupware to work? I've been beating this thing to death for the last several days with no luck whatsoever. The packages are available from the Contribs list, and they install without a

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Lanman
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:21:28 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any luck getting OpenGroupware to work? I've been beating this thing to death for the last several days with no luck whatsoever. The packages are available from the Contribs list, and they install

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 23 September 2004 06:59, Lanman wrote: If Linux is going to make a bigger dent in the world, it's going to have to fix this type of problem. GRRR. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Scott Rineer
I do agree with most of Bryan is saying... what I think is the problem, is that open source software is Hyped to work the same or better than commercial software. that is where the frustration comes from. On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 12:32, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 23 September 2004 10:58,

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 23 September 2004 12:57, Scott Rineer wrote: I do agree with most of Bryan is saying... what I think is the problem, is that open source software is Hyped to work the same or better than commercial software. that is where the frustration comes from. Well, in point of fact, it does

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Lanman
Bryan, Feel free to get as annoyed as you want, but I beg to differ on some of your points of view. Still, I respect the fact that you have a right to them, and I'm not saying that mine is better than yours but consider this,... snip Bryan Phinney wrote: Given that someone wrote it and it

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 23 September 2004 22:25, Lanman wrote: The fact that OGO is either missing a clear and precise installation document or simply doesn't work without some significant step that seems to be missing, means it's not quite there yet. End of story. Lanman, I'm not a groupware user so I

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Lanman
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 23 September 2004 22:25, Lanman wrote: The fact that OGO is either missing a clear and precise installation document or simply doesn't work without some significant step that seems to be missing, means it's not quite there yet. End of story. Lanman, I'm not a

Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 23 September 2004 16:25, Lanman wrote: Feel free to get as annoyed as you want, but I beg to differ on some of your points of view. Still, I respect the fact that you have a right to them, and I'm not saying that mine is better than yours but consider this,... Differences are

[newbie] OpenGroupware

2004-09-18 Thread Lanman
Has anyone had any luck getting OpenGroupware to work? I've been beating this thing to death for the last several days with no luck whatsoever. The packages are available from the Contribs list, and they install without a problem, but no amount of reading the documentation, following the