OK... so whats the real diff between those 2 editors which
one is more
newb friendly? If neither is newbie friendly, well name
something that
is and is more or less standard on most *nix's.
How about GEDIT if you have X working or PICO if in CLI???
Rob
Want to buy your Pack or
On Mon 2003-02-10 at 17:31:26 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Ok, but how do you turn on number lines insise Emacs. If I've coding in
Java and the compiler tells me I've got an OutOfBoundsException on line
4893 I don't want to have to count 1,2,3... from the top if the page, ya
know?
On Monday 10 February 2003 08:14 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 16:36, Robert Wideman wrote:
OK... so whats the real diff between those 2 editors which
one is more
newb friendly? If neither is newbie friendly, well name
something that
is and is more or
On Monday 10 February 2003 06:21 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 18:52, et wrote:
right about here I like to suggest jed for it's resembalance to dos edit,
and it is command line/console, plus I like the name
Hm... I have that somewhere on here I think... Thx Ed.
FF
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From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 11:32, FemmeFatale wrote:
*giggles* Mike: I'd love to say theres no flames cause I put my foot down
in the subject line. I can't say that though cause this list really is
civil most days.
OMG, did i start a flame war for the Canadians? HEHE. How funny.
Rob
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Angus Auld
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any
On Friday 07 February 2003 11:34 am, Angus Auld wrote:
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From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 09:32 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Thursday 06 February 2003 09:21 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
Wouldnt they just be called Canadians? Thats what i have always
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From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Friday 07 February 2003 11:34 am, Angus Auld wrote:
- Original Message -
From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 09:32 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Thursday 06 February 2003 09:21 pm, Robert
Sleep is good...
Just had 11 hours of it, thanks.
Rob
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On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 11:32, FemmeFatale wrote:
*giggles* Mike: I'd love to say theres no flames cause I put my foot down
in the subject line. I can't say that though cause this list really is
civil most days.
And the ppl are great too! :)
-
FemmeFatale
...and HOW can
...and HOW can you say that this list is civil? We have Canucks in here,
that isn't civil...(g)
Heyas a halfcanuck I take offense to that ;o) *grins*
Cheers
Anders
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On Thursday February 6 2003 04:21 pm, Anders Lind wrote:
What is a Canuck?
It could be two things actually, one that cheers for the NHL-team
Canucks, but
in this case Stephen means an inhabitant of Canada.
/Anders
Mostly the ones north of the Great Lakes, and to the east, where
most
Down here in TX, we call the rest of 'em to the west ... *real*
cowboys (and cowgirls ;)
HEHE, understandable, i am in Austin.
Rob
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Wouldnt they just be called Canadians? Thats what i have always heard
reference to until this mailing list.
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anders Lind
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
On Thursday 06 February 2003 09:21 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
Wouldnt they just be called Canadians? Thats what i have always heard
reference to until this mailing list.
Rob
next you will want me to quit calling them damn Bonapartests frogs...
next.
-Original Message-
From:
The origin of Canuck as I understand it came from a little
known (when it
started) TV series called SCTV. It was a series/sitcom that
poked fun at
Canadians our culture.
Many good comedians came out of that program got their start
there. (John
Candy, RIP; Gilda Radner; G.? Levy; the
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:40, Jan Wilson wrote:
snip
Many people use less than 1% of the capabilities of a text editor.
I have seen people who noticed they left out a word at the beginning
of the paragraph, and backspaced over the whole paragraph to add the
word, then typed the rest of the
On Tue 2003-02-04 at 21:21:06 -0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[... cool overview about available editors ...]
If I am on a desktop and I need a quick edit, I usually grab for
kedit, but any heavy work is emacs unless it is a sudoers file in
which case a special variant of vi called visudo is
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:07:11 +0100
Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:
snippage
Now young lady, you are in trouble LOL, Vi vs Emacs that is a provoking
subject.
Personally I prefer Vi of those two, but it is because it is smaller and
faster then
Emacs (I don't need another
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:54:52PM -0700, FemmeFatale wrote:
OK... so whats the real diff between those 2 editors which one is more
newb friendly? If neither is newbie friendly, well name something that is
and is more or less standard on most *nix's. For the moment I'm leaning to
Emacs
* FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030205 01:27]:
[snip]
edit files on any system. I realized a while back those 2 editors are
standard to Any *nix environment.
I believe that emacs is not always installed, even though it is
probably available for almost all OSes and distributions. It isn't
* civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030205 01:27]:
vi has some extensions like vile that allow editing multiple files so emacs
has no real advantage there any more. emacs though does split windows one or
more times to allow several files to be on screen at once.
vim and its graphic version gvim
I've tried learning vi but dealing with the modes and such really put me
off and the tutorials I found weren't written very well. Maybe I'll try
again at some point, since vi seems so universal, but for now I mostly
stick with kedit or emacs to do file editing.
The main thing I like about emacs
Personally, I love VI. I used PICO first but found VI easier to deal with
sometimes. Also, quit trying every text editor out there. Just use one and
one only. Thats what i did with VI, and i only know about 10 commands in
the program.very small compared to what it actually does. You just
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:32:49 -0600, Robert Wideman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Personally, I love VI. I used PICO first but found VI easier to deal
with
sometimes. Also, quit trying every text editor out there. Just use one
and
one only.
Thats what i did with VI, and i only know about 10
Dood, your taking it the wrong way. I wasnt telling you what to do. I know
how everyone else is and i am the same way. I dont learn something unless i
stick with one way to do it. If i try 5 different ways to do something then
i can do a basic, if i stick with one way then i understand it a
Don't tell me quit trying every text editor out there. I'll try out as
many text editors as I care to and there's NOTHING wrong with that.
Never said there was.
You tried one and stuck with it? well bully for you!
Bully for me? WTF does that mean? Must be a European saying!?!?
Now why
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:18:59 -0600, Robert Wideman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Dood, your taking it the wrong way. I wasnt telling you what to do.
I know
how everyone else is and i am the same way. I dont learn something
unless i
stick with one way to do it. If i try 5 different ways to do
Ok. The way i should have put it is:
start
If you are like me then you should quit trying every text editor out there.
end
And/or taken what i stated earlier as a suggestion, not as something i am
DEMANDING you to do which is NOT its purpose.
Cant we all just get along instead of misinterpreting
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:49:35 -0600, Robert Wideman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Cant we all just get along instead of misinterpreting suggestions?
Rob
Fine.
An avalanche of un-birthday Linux-kisses for everyone!
smmmooc!!!
--
cervixcouch
At 04:40 AM 2/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
What a truly civil list we have here! A *discussion* of the relative merits
of these two hallowed editors (some would say emacs is more a desktop
environment than mere editor ;o) ), without a bitter flaming contest.
`course, it is rather early.. |8^)
At 03:40 AM 2/5/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Large Emacs size snip
I would recommend vi or vim for anyone who does a lot of text editing
(as opposed to word processing) and is willing to learn the basics
(a good basic tutorial should take 30 minutes or less) and then
gradually pick up more
At 12:42 PM 2/5/2003 +0200, you wrote:
snipped Jan's post
Jan makes a good point - it depends on what you want to do. If by edit
files you just mean opening a file and making a few changes here and
there, then pico (or nano) exists on just about any Unix-type server, and
is really easy to
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 12:20 pm, Robert Wideman wrote:
Don't tell me quit trying every text editor out there. I'll try out as
many text editors as I care to and there's NOTHING wrong with that.
Never said there was.
You tried one and stuck with it? well bully for you!
Bully for
OK I just read some stuff about VI Emacs. Now I'm not one for super
complex editors of text. Having said that I realize it behooves me
(Correct context for behooves? sp!?) to learn one or the other so I can
edit files on any system. I realized a while back those 2 editors are
standard
OK I just read some stuff about VI Emacs. Now I'm not one for super
complex editors of text. Having said that I realize it behooves me
(Correct context for behooves? sp!?) to learn one or the other so I
can
edit files on any system. I realized a while back those 2 editors are
standard to
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 08:54 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
OK I just read some stuff about VI Emacs. Now I'm not one for super
complex editors of text. Having said that I realize it behooves me
(Correct context for behooves? sp!?) to learn one or the other so I can
edit files on any system.
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 10:23 pm, civileme wrote:
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 08:54 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
OK I just read some stuff about VI Emacs. Now I'm not one for super
complex editors of text. Having said that I realize it behooves me
(Correct context for behooves? sp!?) to
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