I can offer my help for Atlantic Canada
Ingo
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 24 Dec 2002 2:50 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:15, Poogle wrote:
I believe the key here is that it was solely focused on testing new
releases and reporting back to
Put me in coachUS Florida
Lee
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 06:51 am, you wrote:
I can offer my help for Atlantic Canada
Ingo
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 24 Dec 2002 2:50 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:15, Poogle wrote:
I believe the key
On Tuesday 24 Dec 2002 H:50 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:15, Poogle wrote:
I believe the key here is that it was solely focused on testing new
releases and reporting back to Mandrake in a concise and relevant way.
While all feedback is important I see a problem in an
Franki wrote:
I think if mandrake had any sense.. they would have a staff member or two
lurk on this list to get a sense of what their users are feeling... (since
they are the ones being begged to join the club.)
but they fact that they don't is a sad example of companies today..
simple matter
When mandrake sacked Civileme I wrote to Jaques le Maroir to tell him I was
disappointed, as C. had been an enormous help to me and many others.
In reply I got a rather aggressive email telling me if I knew a better way to run the
company let him know.
I,m the first to admit that I don;t know
12/23/02 7:16:49 AM, Peter Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When mandrake sacked Civileme I wrote to Jaques le
Maroir to tell him I was disappointed, as C. had been an
enormous help to me and many others.
In reply I got a rather aggressive email telling me if I knew a
better way to run the
--- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I must agree wit you about most of what you have to say
Civileme was a big loss to the Mandrake community.I shure
miss him. It was GREAT to have a true linux guru around to
help out and he also had a good personality and skills for
organising.
On
--- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I must agree wit you about most of what you have to say
Civileme was a big loss to the Mandrake community.I shure
miss him. It was GREAT to have a true linux guru around to
help out and he also had a good personality and skills for
organising.
On
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:15, Poogle wrote:
I believe the key here is that it was solely focused on testing new releases
and reporting back to Mandrake in a concise and relevant way.
While all feedback is important I see a problem in an individual obtaining a
beta or rc and reporting
On Monday 23 December 2002 08:50 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:15, Poogle wrote:
I believe the key here is that it was solely focused on testing new
releases and reporting back to Mandrake in a concise and relevant way.
While all feedback is important I see a problem in
Joseph Braddock wrote:
I have to say I'm middle-of-the-road here. I bought my distros and was
happy with 8.2. However, I'm NOT happy with 9.0. If 9.0 is all they can do
with the money I paid spent, then no, I'm not going to continue investing
money in a company who seems to be
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 12:35 am, Joseph Braddock wrote:
Jerry,
Maybe you would be willing to contribute some of your time to improve
Mandrake's stability. There were numerous beta and release candidates for
Mandrake 9.0. If you are having stability issues, the time to have them
fixed is
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:05 am, Lee wrote:
Curious as a businessman of some experience. Can you say what these bad
business decisions were? I don't mind shovelling a bit more down the
tube, but I would be interested in why it's necessary.
As I understand it, the venture capitalists liked
away to someone else who's
gonna try it. Hopefully she has more luck with it than I did.
Jerry
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From: Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
Jerry,
Maybe
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 H:35 am, Joseph Braddock wrote:
Jerry,
Maybe you would be willing to contribute some of your time to improve
Mandrake's stability. There were numerous beta and release candidates for
Mandrake 9.0. If you are having stability issues, the time to have them
fixed is
On Saturday 21 Dec 2002 1:17 pm, jerry wrote:
just as a quick update on my situation with that machine. dumped 9.0
and put 8.2 on it, viola! everything works, including the sound card i
could not get working under 9.0. I guess mandrake's moving away from
supporting old hardware? (another
Comments in-line
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 12:09 pm, Franki wrote:
Well, I guess its my turn to have a say...
I am off the opinion that the club is a shortterm earner at best..
eventually people will pull out and if there are not new replacements it
will dry up.. there is alot more benefit to
I plan on supporting Mandrake in every way that I can. I love this
distro. I have tried others, including debian and have always come back
to this one. Someone on another forum said they wouldn't use mandrake
because it looked too much like windows for him. I personally think that
if they want to
signing up...
rgds
Frank
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Sent: Sunday, 22 December 2002 9:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
Comments in-line
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 12:09
Well,
After seeing the plea for people to join the club, I thought what the
hell, why not!
Then I went to the web site, saw that the cost was $60, thought OK,
for a home user that is quite a lot, but at least it is supporting the
company to produce further versions of what seems to be a pretty
Franki wrote:
I love the idea of training.. if Mandrake put an expert in an irc channel
24/7 or even for specific times each day.. and his job was to answer club
members questions.. and perhaps train them on stuff when the questions quiet
down... (common ones could be refered to a mandrake page
Well,
After seeing the plea for people to join the club, I thought what the
hell, why not!
Then I went to the web site, saw that the cost was $60, thought OK,
for a home user that is quite a lot, but at least it is supporting the
company to produce further versions of what seems to be a pretty
On Sunday 22 December 2002 03:09, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Saturday 21 December 2002 12:17 am, you wrote:
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an
email from the Mandrake team.
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/20/1815214.shtml?tid=147
I also read
On Sunday 22 December 2002 12:09, Franki wrote:
They need to think long and hard about what they can offer.. perhaps online
realtime tutorials/training with chatrooms and stuff.. I don't know, but do
some more value adding..
Isn't the way to commercialise GPL software to sell services? To
On Sunday 22 December 2002 06:15 am, you wrote:
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 H:35 am, Joseph Braddock wrote:
Jerry,
Maybe you would be willing to contribute some of your time to improve
Mandrake's stability. There were numerous beta and release candidates
for Mandrake 9.0. If you are having
2002 9:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
Comments in-line
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 12:09 pm, Franki wrote:
Well, I guess its my turn to have a say...
I am off the opinion that the club is a shortterm earner at best..
eventually people
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On Sunday 22 December 2002 05:59 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 12:35 am, Joseph Braddock wrote:
Jerry,
Maybe you would be willing to contribute some of your time to improve
Mandrake's stability. There were numerous beta and
On Sunday 22 December 2002 11:11 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 22 December 2002 06:15 am, you wrote:
On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 H:35 am, Joseph Braddock wrote:
Jerry,
Maybe you would be willing to contribute some of your time to improve
Mandrake's stability. There were numerous
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 23:05, Sascha Noyes wrote:
Mandrake's core focus is on delivering a Linux distro that has broad hardware
support, is easy to set up and administer, and is committed to free software.
The idea of the club is to support Mandrake in this goal. Quite a few people
today
, 22 December 2002 8:06 PM
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On Sunday 22 December 2002 10:41 am, Franki wrote:
I love the idea of training.. if Mandrake put an expert in an irc channel
24/7 or even for specific
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 23:05, Sascha Noyes wrote:
Mandrake's core focus is on delivering a Linux distro that has broad
hardware
support, is easy to set up and administer, and is committed to free
software.
The idea
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 04:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
I was part of that team (8.0) Still got the really nice Crashtesters shirt!
:-)
--
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Dark Lord
Franki wrote:
Here here,, I live in Australia too, and just because our ecommony bites the
bag is no reason for us to have to
pay what is essentially twice the price the yanks do...
They pay 5 USD but the earn USD... we earn AUD.. which is a worthless piece
of plastic paper mostly, but we also
At 11:15 AM 12/22/2002 +, you wrote:
My solution - I don't have one. Crashtesters was IMHO a valuable effort
but in
these financially difficult times Mandrake are damned if they spend money on
this sort of exercise and damned if they don't.
To add an addendum to this: I had been invited
At 03:06 AM 12/23/2002 +0800, you wrote:
get a grip people, I'm not talking about an e-learning center..
I'm talking about adding some value to club members by putting one of their
guys on an IRC server or whatever and allowing access to the clubmembers for
an hour or two a day.. not that
At 08:43 PM 12/22/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Franki wrote:
Here here,, I live in Australia too, and just because our ecommony bites the
bag is no reason for us to have to
pay what is essentially twice the price the yanks do...
They pay 5 USD but the earn USD... we earn AUD.. which is a worthless
On Sunday 22 December 2002 04:39 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
At 11:15 AM 12/22/2002 +, you wrote:
My solution - I don't have one. Crashtesters was IMHO a valuable effort
but in
these financially difficult times Mandrake are damned if they spend money
on this sort of exercise and damned if
Mandrake have made a huge step forward with bugzilla in the last week or
two. I would suggest to everyone who has an interest in the
stability/excellence of 9.1 to make an account at
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com. The feature that would be most useful to
newbies is voting for bugs. If you are
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From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
In my search for knowledge and some tidbits support I found and IRC
channel as you describe. I know at least one
--- FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my search for knowledge and some tidbits support I found and IRC
channel as you describe. I know at least one MDK employee hangs out
there. The problem? They are not very newbie friendly far too ready to
kick ban ppl for Stupid questions.
to dumbed down to
understand linux quickly...
(which may have been their plan all along.)
rgds
Frank
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Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake Raising
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers
Sent: Monday, 23 December 2002 7:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
On Sunday 22 December 2002 04:39 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
At 11:15 AM 12/22/2002 +, you wrote
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
--- FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my search for knowledge and some tidbits support I found and IRC
channel as you describe. I know at least one MDK employee hangs out
there. The problem? They are not very newbie friendly far too ready to
kick ban ppl for
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 11:51, Robin Turner wrote:
If you think vim is a cleaning agent, you're a newbie and shouldn't be
ashamed of it. If you think vim is an attempt to dumb down the
crystalline purity of vi, then you should think very carefully before
responding to newbie questions with
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 12:11, Franki wrote:
I write web apps for a company over here, and most of my work is adapted
from suggestions by my clients...
Kangaroos use webapps? Wombats surf? Australia has computers? (g)
--
Mon Dec 23 13:20:00 EST 2002
1:20pm up 15:34, 5 users, load
--- Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I normally cut posts I answer (good netiquette) but in this case I'll
leave it intact, just in case anyone didn't read it the first time.
This is the most intelligent thing I've read on the various lists I'm
subscribed to for a long time.
Sir
On Sunday 22 December 2002 06:00 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
In my search for knowledge and some tidbits support I found and IRC
channel as you describe. I know at least one MDK employee hangs out
there. The problem? They are not very newbie friendly far too ready to
kick ban ppl for Stupid
--- Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 22 December 2002 06:00 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
In my search for knowledge and some tidbits support I found and IRC
channel as you describe. I know at least one MDK employee hangs out
there. The problem? They are not very newbie
On Sunday 22 December 2002 01:58 pm, you wrote:
Yer lucky Ron, I never did get the shirt, so I went out and bought the
boxed set just to get the logo. : )
You were a crashtester too? Why didn't you get the shirt and the other
surprise gift? (a complete boxed set/Power Pack). You should have
On Sunday 22 December 2002 10:11 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 22 December 2002 01:58 pm, you wrote:
Yer lucky Ron, I never did get the shirt, so I went out and bought the
boxed set just to get the logo. : )
You were a crashtester too? Why didn't you get the shirt and the other
On Sunday 22 December 2002 11:41 pm, you wrote:
I did let him know, but still never got either item, he is the one who lost
my address from his data base and then when he moved back he left it in
someone elses hands and like many things that seem to happen with people
who support
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 11:51, Sascha Noyes wrote:
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I'm considering upgrading to silver membership. Not sure yet though.
Sascha
I wish I could say that I was being optimistic about Mandrake right now,
but I think that there's going to be a bit
On Saturday 21 Dec 2002 H:51 am, Sascha Noyes wrote:
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I'm considering upgrading to silver membership. Not sure yet though.
Sascha
On Saturday 21 December 2002 12:17 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the
On Saturday 21 Dec 2002 5:17 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an
email from the Mandrake team.
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/20/1815214.shtml?tid=147
I also read
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/future.php3
After reading that,
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 21:43, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 21 Dec 2002 5:17 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an
email from the Mandrake team.
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/20/1815214.shtml?tid=147
I also read
On Saturday 21 Dec 2002 11:22 am, you wrote:
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 21 Dec 2002 9:38 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 11:51, Sascha Noyes wrote:
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I'm considering upgrading to silver
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
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After reading that, and considering how much Mandrake linux has come to
mean to me, I've decided to upgrade my membership. I was wondering, how
many peeps here are going to either join the Mandrake club or upgrade
their membership? I'm just curious, and was looking for
- Original Message -
From: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:17 PM
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an
email from the Mandrake team.
At the risk of offending some, I will give my thoughts, which will
probably be unpopular (dons flame-retardant suit).
Yes what you had to say will probably offend some, but honestly a
free-flow of ideas, expressed in a thoughtful manner such as you
presented your ideas, should never offend.
Jerry,
Maybe you would be willing to contribute some of your time to improve Mandrake's
stability. There were numerous beta and release candidates for Mandrake 9.0. If you
are having stability issues, the time to have them fixed is prior to the release being
official. When Mandrake 9.1 is
On Saturday 21 December 2002 12:17 am, you wrote:
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an
email from the Mandrake team.
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/20/1815214.shtml?tid=147
I also read
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/future.php3
After reading that,
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 00:17, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an
email from the Mandrake team.
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/20/1815214.shtml?tid=147
I also read
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/future.php3
After reading that,
On Saturday 21 December 2002 11:19 am, you wrote:
At the risk of offending some, I will give my thoughts, which will
probably be unpopular (dons flame-retardant suit).
Yes what you had to say will probably offend some, but honestly a
free-flow of ideas, expressed in a thoughtful manner such
--- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curious as a businessman of some experience. Can you say what these bad
business decisions were? I don't mind shovelling a bit more down the tube,
but I would be interested in why it's necessary.
And I can't stand the grovelling.
Lee
I find it
On Sunday 22 December 2002 01:41 am, you wrote:
--- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curious as a businessman of some experience. Can you say what these bad
business decisions were? I don't mind shovelling a bit more down the
tube, but I would be interested in why it's necessary.
And I
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I'm considering upgrading to silver membership. Not sure yet though.
Sascha
On Saturday 21 December 2002 12:17 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an
email from the Mandrake team.
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