Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-26 Thread rikona
Hello Anne, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 2:43:16 PM, you wrote: >> It may be in the docs, but not in a form that is readily accessible >> by a simple search. AW> It's an interesting proposition, but not an overnight job, I think True. How does one get a group together to develop it? -- r

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-26 Thread rikona
Hello Anne, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 2:41:02 PM, you wrote: >> How about a help-system list, maybe? AW> Hi, Rikona. Thanks for the offer. It's better not to split into AW> too many resources, so why not check out the TWiki for newbie AW> stuff, then decide where it would fit best. What

Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-23 Thread Aron Smith
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 13:49, rikona wrote: > Hello Aron, > > Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 3:25:39 AM, you wrote: > > AS> RTFM OK but the real newbie is having trouble finding TFM > > Gee - I thought I was the only one with that problem. :-) Took me six months to figure out that when a browser o

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello Aron, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 3:25:39 AM, you wrote: AS> RTFM OK but the real newbie is having trouble finding TFM Gee - I thought I was the only one with that problem. :-) -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mand

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello Anne, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 1:24:19 AM, you wrote: AW> Any offers? How about a good 'help system'? I'd be willing to contribute. AW> It's a challenge, really Yes, it will certainly be a challenge. :-) How about a help-system list, maybe? -- rikona

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello John, Monday, September 22, 2003, 11:43:33 PM, you wrote: JW> In the early NIX world where the folks hacking away on the system JW> were C programmers talking to C programmers It is more like: Cpgmrs tlk w cp & hkg awy @ t sym. I remember a magazine that used to publish a puzzle each mont

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello yankl, Monday, September 22, 2003, 7:40:28 PM, you wrote: y> The *NIX OS is designed for responsible people, are we agree on y> this? One can be VERY responsible and know nothing about the jargon. Many want it as TOOL, not as a hobby/living/etc. The best tools work well, and are very easy

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello yankl, Monday, September 22, 2003, 5:51:31 PM, you wrote: y> I think my point was not taken properly. I am sorry it probably my y> English (it not even my second language more like fourth). You are doing very well, then. y> My point was that people should make a research first and then t

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-23 Thread rikona
Hello Anne, Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:31:31 AM, you wrote: AAW> Don't want to rain on your parade, rikona, but 'natural language' AW> searches never seemed to give me answers either. It is VERY likely that your "natural language" search was nothing at all like what I am proposing. Just beca

Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-22 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:47, Aron Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 22:57, rikona wrote: > > Hello yankl, > > > > Sunday, September 21, 2003, 5:36:27 PM, you wrote: > > > > y> hence the end of my e-mail "man -k". Have any one done their home > > y> work? > > > > Yes, but it was not very helpf

Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-22 Thread Aron Smith
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 22:57, rikona wrote: > Hello yankl, > > Sunday, September 21, 2003, 5:36:27 PM, you wrote: > > y> hence the end of my e-mail "man -k". Have any one done their home > y> work? > > Yes, but it was not very helpful, as I mentioned. > > y> By typing "#man -k lilo" one can see

Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-22 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 9:03 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello Richard, > > Sunday, September 21, 2003, 3:03:45 AM, you wrote: > RU> apropos doesn't work because the man pages call it y. > > Yep - another part of the problem. M$ help suffers from the same > problem, although their overall integration of hel

Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages

2003-09-21 Thread rikona
Hello Richard, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 3:03:45 AM, you wrote: RU> On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 8:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote: >> Yank, man pages are great once you have a bit of experience under the >> belt. For a true newbie, many ar totally inpenetrable. RU> Agreed, but I'm not a newbie and IME, ma