On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 22:57, rikona wrote: > Hello yankl, > > Sunday, September 21, 2003, 5:36:27 PM, you wrote: > > y> hence the end of my e-mail "man -k". Have any one done their home > y> work? > > Yes, but it was not very helpful, as I mentioned. > > y> By typing "#man -k lilo" one can see what command it relates too. > > Aha - now we can actually see the un-natural language needed to get > the answer. The page number is 'lilo', and we still have to keep the > -k. :-) > > y> Unless we like to have m$users we need to start using all tools > y> provided by OS. > > There are a ton of tools, that is not the problem. The problem is > being able to find the right answer in this sea of tools. > > y> In my opinion the order of trying to solve something in the *nix > y> should be as following: > > y> 1. HOWTO (tldp.org or build in) > > Often a good place to start, but it is still too 'command' oriented, > rather than 'problem' oriented. > > y> 2. man page > y> 3. google.com > y> 4. newbie list > > I like 4, 3, and then 2 best. But then I'm a newbie. :-) I can fully > understand why someone who already knows it would prefer the other > order. > > y> If one will not try to figure out staff by him/herself we will have to switch > y> to m$ like OS where it is one way to do it and its full of holes because it > y> is more important to make it ease then to make it safe. > > Being safe and being easy to use, at least with respect to > documentation, are unrelated. Better, problem-oriented documentation > for linux might even make it easier to use than M$, especially if it > is good-thesaurus, natural language based. Note that M$ is investing > VERY heavily in people who do NL work. Hint, hint. If you want > Mandrake to take off, this will be a key - there are just not enough > geeks. :-))) > > Of course, there's the crowd that does NOT want it to take off - but > that's another topic. > > y> teach man how to resource and he will nether go back to m$. > > If the resources are too hard to use, he will go back to M$ anyway. No > amount of RTFM put-downs will change that - indeed, it will just > accelerate it. I think that the MAN pages are a holdover from the unix days and should be rewritten possibly with examples
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