]
Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2011 1:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I work in communities.
From: Ken Schaefer
[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT
: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 6:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I was beginning to wonder what the hell happened to Shookie! Good to know he is
alive and kickin...
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
, November 04, 2011 7:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Shooky Baby is extremely busy with his job at Peak10. The night we met,
I worked until 7:30PM, met Shooky at 8, we left Chili's at 9:45 and
Shooky headed back to the office.
Carl Webster
Consultant
input than the small portion of those that don't.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Communities only reflect a portion of what's going on as well.
There's a certain
Now I feel bad. I consider it to be a long day if I work until 5:00.
John
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 7:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Shooky Baby is extremely busy with his job at Peak10. The night we met
, November 04, 2011 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Now I feel bad. I consider it to be a long day if I work until 5:00.
John
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 7:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]mailto:[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Now I feel bad. I consider it to be a long day if I work until 5:00.
John
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com
Good grief... How did all of that junk get in my message? I'm embarrassed.
-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Accept-Language: en-US
Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 7:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Shookie is an animal... a little crazy working till 9:00pm plus, even in these
days
AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Good grief... How did all of that junk get in my message? I'm embarrassed.
-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Good grief... How did all of that junk get in my message? I'm embarrassed.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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To manage subscriptions click here:
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That was 30 minutes ago. I can barely remember what happened 30 SECONDS ago.
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I bet you replied to a message
04, 2011 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Ouch!
My job may not pay much or provide opportunities for advancement, but it has
one thing going for it: my employers don't expect my job to be my life.
John
From: Ziots, Edward
[mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]mailto
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
There's a very small portion now that do not participate in a community
somewhere. And, those that do participate in communities tend to do better in
their jobs and have a longer IT career. So, I'm pretty sure the demographic
that does participate would have value
percentage...
Dave
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I see very little enterprise architecture and integration involvement in
communities. I see more technical line-level
System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I just challenged our Service Desk team to get involved any IT community. We
have 5 Service Desk guys and about 10 Systems Engineer’s and to my knowledge
only one other (none of the SD guys) are connected
: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I see very little enterprise architecture and integration involvement in
communities. I see more technical line-level engineering and development
questions/answers.
Cheers
Ken
From: Rod Trent
I work in communities.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I see very little enterprise architecture and integration involvement in
communities. I see more technical line
write a business case to save their lives.
Cheers
Ken
From:Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Yeah…their track record isn’t great (particularly over the last couple
years), however
research org. It would be nice to see
what the industry says versus what's really going on.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Really?
Gartner is saying that Cloud has
into
couldn’t write a business case to save their lives.
** **
Cheers
Ken
** **
*From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
Yeah…their track record
://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Anyone on the list using cloud services? I looked at Office 365 and found it
to be far more expensive
. Its clumsy.
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I use Office 365 for my carlwebster.com domain and am happy with the service.
$6/month is not bad for a one man shop. I don’t
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
My Dad bought a new PC without Office, and then wanted to be able to write
docs, use xls, etc. I got him up and running on Office 365. There is a
huge learning curve, and I don’t think he may ever get it completely.
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
Yeah…their track record isn’t great (particularly over the last couple
years), however, CIOs and CEOs still eat them up. Gartner, right now, is
promoting the Cloud like there’s nothing else. 3 years ago it was
“outsourcing”. Now, companies
IT people I’ve run into
couldn’t write a business case to save their lives.
** **
Cheers
Ken
** **
*From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
I probably shouldn't hold it against them, but I still remember back in the
'90s when Gartner was saying that within five years all computers would be
running the Unix OS. I can't say I've ever
to justify the conclusion. Most IT people I've run into couldn't write a
business case to save their lives.
Cheers
Ken
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Banjos Rock! Stereotypes suck.
Shooky said stuff like that all the time.
I think you mean Shooky said stuff like that 98.7% of the time.
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
Rounding error.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
wrote:
Banjos Rock! Stereotypes suck.
Shooky said stuff like that all the time.
I think you mean Shooky said stuff like that
This just in, November declared OT month for NTSYSADMIN List!
I hate McDonald's, but I'm lovin' this.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
On Thu, Nov 3
123-456-7890.
cc
Subject
Re: [OT] Stats about IT
I probably shouldn't hold it against them, but I still remember back in
the '90s when Gartner was saying that within five years all computers
would be running the Unix OS. I can't say I've ever had much faith in
their 'predictions'.
David
. Enter in the fax number
like 123-456-7890.
cc
Subject
Re: [OT] Stats about IT
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
wrote:
Banjos Rock! Stereotypes suck.
Shooky said stuff like that all the time.
I think you mean Shooky said stuff like that 98.7
Do we need a month?
It only seems to happen 2.3% of the time.
-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
This just in, November declared OT month
: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
This just in, November declared OT month for NTSYSADMIN List!
I hate McDonald's, but I'm lovin' this.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November
We think we are 97.7% of the time.
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
You mean 2.3% of the time we're on-topic, right?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Mathew Shember
www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr
** **
*From:* David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:42
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
Did you drill down far enough on the 365 site
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Banjos Rock! Stereotypes suck.
Shooky said stuff like that all the time.
I think you mean Shooky said stuff like that 98.7% of the time.
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful
they are signing up for.)
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
Did you drill down far enough on the 365
Like deleted items retention :-)
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 03:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about
with the interface. Its clumsy.
From: Webster
[mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]mailto:[mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I use Office 365 for my carlwebster.com domain and am happy with the service.
$6/month
Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I use Office 365 for my carlwebster.com domain and am happy with the service.
$6/month is not bad for a one man shop. I don’t have to bug MBS hardly ever
now about all my e-mail issues when my e-mail was on a GoDaddy server.
Carl Webster
Consultant
a bit
of work…
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Anyone on the list using cloud services? I
Office 365 is all web apps, even though it installs some components locally.
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I presume you are referring to Office Web Apps? I agree
a real world research org. It would be nice to see
what the industry says versus what's really going on.
From: Ken Schaefer
[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about
You're going to want to check with the research firms:
Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc (http://itic-corp.com/)
Additionally, Google the question and see what references you find...
* *
*ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
Technology for the SMB market…
*
Or just make them up...as 95% of all statistics are.
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
You're going to want to check with the research firms:
Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc
Tada.
Particularly Gartner's, IMO.
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Or just make them up.as 95% of all statistics are.
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz
…
** **
Particularly Gartner’s, IMO…
** **
*From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
Or just make them up…as 95% of all statistics are.
** **
*From
She meant to say 95.3% are.
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EXT :RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Or just make them up...as 95% of all statistics are.
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
To me, Gartner's stats are just derived from flawed research and easily
subverted questions.
ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011
[mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
Or just make them up…as 95% of all statistics are.
** **
*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday
Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Yeah...their track record isn't great (particularly
Agree that the Cloud will continue to be a topic - but, if the economy
improves, no one will care about the Cloud.
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about
– but, if the economy
improves, no one will care about the Cloud.
** **
*From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:16 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
The hype cycle applies
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
She meant to say 95.3% are.
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EXT :RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Or just make them up...as 95% of all statistics are.
From: Andrew S
I heard that 95% of women are grumpy in the morning.
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Who the heck is the she you're referring to, dude? I heard that 93.7
, Tom (Xetron) (ESS) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:37 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
She meant to say 95.3% are.
** **
*From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday
Correction.. 95.3%
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I heard that 95% of women are grumpy in the morning.
From: Kim Longenbaugh
[mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I heard that 95% of women are grumpy in the morning.
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin
Completely off topic, but it makes me chuckle so I'm gonna share. I once knew a
guy whose parents were both named Kim.
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Who the heck
] Stats about IT
I heard that 95% of women are grumpy in the morning.
** **
*From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:37 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
Who the heck is the she
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number
like 123-456-7890.
cc
Subject
Re: [OT] Stats about IT
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup!
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Rankin, James R
: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
Interesting...
I'd always heard ketchup was a guy thing, but I never realized it meant it
made guys taste better
Kat Aylward Langan messagel...@gmail.com
11/02/2011 01:20 PM
Please respond
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
Could offerings, in my experience don't offer (much) cost savings. All they
seem to do is change capital costs to operating costs, which normalizes cash
flows
business. I'll see if I can dig that up again. Part of the
ultimate cost savings included freeing up salary and amenities.
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about
to be a topic - but, if the economy
improves, no one will care about the Cloud.
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
The hype cycle applies to outsourcing
”
** **
*From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:33 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: [OT] Stats about IT
** **
Could offerings, in my experience don't offer (much) cost savings. All
they seem to do is change capital costs
Their loss! Money is money right?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 03:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
I would
-software.comSubject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
Could it be that Amazon understands what can saturate bandwidth?
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote:
I would love to use clouds services, such as EC2 or others for storage.
For some reason they look at my email address and say
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:
Yes we have seen C “Levels” chase the hype, and be promised the
world by slick sales folks, but a lot of times it hasn’t panned out the
way they figure.
I recall a conversation (possibly in this very forum) which
We had the same issue with our @fantasyentertainment.com address ☺
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT
Their loss! Money is money right?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership
IT people I've run into couldn't write a
business case to save their lives.
Cheers
Ken
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT
Yeah...their track record isn't great (particularly over
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