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2012-04-13 Thread Webster
What version of XenApp? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com From: David Mazzaccaro mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com>> Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Just got the ok to move forward withVMware/C

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2012-04-13 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I'm a penny-pincher, and I saw a only one thing that really stuck out... > 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone Ouch! Is that 196 Gig per computer, or total for the 3 servers? Even if it's 196 per computer, Crucial can get you that much ram for $8100... As long as I'm looking at the right memory.

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2012-04-13 Thread Richard Stovall
The 26 kilobuck version. On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Webster wrote: > What version of XenApp? > > > Carl Webster > > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional > > http://www.CarlWebster.com > > From: David Mazzaccaro > Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to V

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Not sure... Here's the line item: MW2ZPSA0001 XENAPP ADVANCED X1CCU W/ SA 1 CONCURRENT USER W/ SA EASY LIC From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Wh

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
LOL Yes, that is per host.. and it is HP memory (hence the premium) -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I'm a penny-pincher, a

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2012-04-13 Thread John Cook
Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! LOL Yes, that is per host.. and it is HP memory (hence the premium) -Original Message- From: Ma

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2012-04-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
That RAM price sounds insane. I'd be speaking to different RAM vendors on getting compatible RAM - HP don't manufacture their own, it's nothing special IMO. Gut reaction is it's an expensive solution in terms of hardware and software, but it's easy to say "Save $40k and do it yourself" when yo

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2012-04-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM, David Mazzaccaro wrote: > 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone You may want to shop around, either between models, or even vendors. When I did this a few months ago, I was initially looking at the Dell T710. The line item cost to get 64 GB RAM on that thing was

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2012-04-13 Thread Steve Ens
Same here, usually opt for Kingston. On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hutchings wrote: > That RAM price sounds insane. I’d be speaking to different RAM vendors > on getting compatible RAM – HP don’t manufacture their own, it’s nothing > special IMO. > > ** ** > > Gut reaction is it’s

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2012-04-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
n one host with 144gb). From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: 13 April 2012 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! LOL Yes, that is per host.. and it is HP memory (hence t

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
's on one host with 144gb). From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: 13 April 2012 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! LOL Yes, that is per host.. and it is HP memory (he

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2012-04-13 Thread Brian Desmond
HyperV would save you 5 grand in licenses and the memory issues assuming vSphere doesn't have a specific feature you need. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, April 1

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2012-04-13 Thread John Cook
il 13, 2012 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! So, even though I will have 588GB of RAM across all 3 hosts, VMware is only going to see and utilize 192GB? -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Se

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2012-04-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: 13 April 2012 7:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! So, even though I will have 588GB of RAM across all 3 hosts, VMware is only going to see and utilize 192GB? -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:p

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Thx, getting clarification on this now... -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! IIRC VMWare licensing only counts against running virtual machines

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Wow. This is perfect. You probably just saved me some serious coin. Thank you!!! -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! vSphere will se

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2012-04-13 Thread Jonathan Link
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote: > Thx, getting clarification on this now... > > > -Original Message- > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:41 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > >

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Good point, thanks. I may recall having said to them "just max the RAM in the hosts". I'll see what they come back with now. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I

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2012-04-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
What are you doing to backup your VM's? From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: 13 April 2012 8:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Wow. This is perfect. You probably just sav

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2012-04-13 Thread Jonathan Link
the hosts”. > > I’ll see what they come back with now. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com 'cvml', 'jonathan.l...@gmail.com');>] > *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2012 3:12 PM > *To:*

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
I assume I will back up to tape? -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! What are you doing to backup your

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2012-04-13 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG
We don't need no steenking backups! Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:29 PM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMw

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
True. Sigh... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Sure but a good VAR should catch things like this before a proposal goes out the door. If you said ma

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2012-04-13 Thread John Cook
7 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware

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2012-04-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
larly as Netapp aren't the cheapest in terms of software licenses if you need to buy anything down the line). From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: 13 April 2012 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'

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2012-04-13 Thread Jonathan Link
onathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2012 3:35 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > ** ** > > Sure but a good VAR should catch things like this before a proposal goes > out the do

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2012-04-13 Thread Robert Cato
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:45 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > I assume I will back up to tape? > > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Interesting... Thx! -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I think he meant how are you going to backup your VMDK files. Read this http://kb.vmwar

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2012-04-13 Thread Brian Desmond
Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I meant more in terms of what backup software are you using? If you're currently doing backups of your physical boxes you're most likely doing it using traditional agents that sit on the boxes and do file or application level

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2012-04-13 Thread Andrew S. Baker
+(1 x 10^49) * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Paul Hutchings wrote: > That RAM price sounds insane. I’d be speaking to different RAM vendors > on getting compatible RAM – HP don’t manufa

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Another reason I love this list! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Better we burst your bubble now than after you've received everything... :-) On F

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2012-04-13 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Ah... yes, that is exactly what I am doing now. I will absolutely look into this. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I

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2012-04-13 Thread Rankin, James R
Good luck in VMWare. I recently moved back to Houghton, which is nice but low in overall memory (particularly the town centre) ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: "David Mazzaccaro" Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:38:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" Subj

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2012-04-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
very single VM you have so you want to be able to get them back as quickly and easily as possible. From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: 13 April 2012 9:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMwa

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2012-04-13 Thread Steven Peck
ail but if it does you've just lost every single VM you have > so you want to be able to get them back as quickly and easily as possible. > ____ > From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] > Sent: 13 April 2012 9:39 PM > To: NT S

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2012-04-14 Thread Ken Schaefer
The DL380 G8 series will be shipping within the month. You may wish to look at that as well. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, 13 April 2012 11:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Just got the ok to move forward

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2012-04-16 Thread John Hornbuckle
Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a reply (although Postini frequently blocks messages from this list)... What factors led to you choosing VMware over Hyper-V? John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us - Original Message

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
I'd assume ease of use and market leader. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a

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2012-04-16 Thread John Cook
, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I'd assume ease of use and market leader. -Original Message-

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2012-04-16 Thread John Hornbuckle
x27;m moving to VMware! I'd assume ease of use and market leader. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Someone else asked about this,

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2012-04-16 Thread Chinnery, Paul
t speak as to how easy it would be to upgrade. Paul Chinnery Network Admin Memorial Medical Center 231.845.2319 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I&#x

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2012-04-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
so I can't judge. > > > > John > > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > I'

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2012-04-16 Thread James Rankin
>> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! >> >> I'd assume ease of use and m

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I'd assume ease of use and market leader. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'

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2012-04-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
gt; falls nicely with our SAN and server refresh, but honestly the only reason > I can see for looking at moving would be license costs - VMware works out > expensive if you have more than a few hosts and want more than the basics. > ____________ > From: John H

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2012-04-16 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG
eaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Basically forget about connecting your tape library to one of the VMware hosts, even if it should work it isn't going to be pleasant - far better to use one of your existing boxes as a media agent with

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
ver? Like I said I haven't used it but I thought those were both things about it that didn't seem quite as "polished" as VMware? From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: 16 April 2012 4:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Ho

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2012-04-16 Thread David Mazzaccaro
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! >> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V boxes individually? No, you don't ha

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: 16 April 2012 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! We're using an iSCSI tape library at our field offices, with the backup server VM connecting to it. Works great for us. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support -Origin

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2012-04-16 Thread Crawford, Scott
> You don't need any physical boxes at all. Period. I'd at least want some hosts :) From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Speaking of dom

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
2012 5:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things... 1) ALWAYS keep a single DC physical. You can certainly have virtual DCs, but you must have at least 1 physical. 2) Virtualize everythin

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2012-04-16 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Admin Memorial Medical Center 231.845.2319 From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things... 1) ALW

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2012-04-16 Thread John Cook
CP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things... 1) ALWAYS k

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2012-04-16 Thread Matthew W. Ross
o:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:30:11 -0700 Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things... > > 1) ALWAYS keep a

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2012-04-16 Thread Steven Peck
can. You don’t need any physical boxes at > all. Period. > > ** ** > > Thoughts? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subje

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2012-04-16 Thread John Cook
, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I didn't think you could point Veeam (or whatever HyperV aware backup app you're usi

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2012-04-16 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Or if you have multiple hyper hosts spread out your DC's. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 d

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2012-04-16 Thread Brian Desmond
zzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things... 1) ALWAYS keep a single DC physical. You can certainly have virtual DCs, but you must have at least 1 p

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2012-04-16 Thread David Mazzaccaro
LOL... From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > You don't need any physical boxes at all. Period. I'd at least want some hosts J From

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2012-04-16 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG
@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I did briefly look at that. Problem was the iSCSI bridge for the tape libraries seemed to cost more than simply buying a physical box to connect the tape library to. Kind of weird but seemed consistent across ve

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2012-04-16 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG
AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things... 1) ALWAYS keep a single DC physical. You can certainly have virtual DCs, but you must have at least 1 physical. 2) Virtualize everything you can. Yo

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2012-04-16 Thread Jonathan Link
u don’t need any physical boxes at > all. Period. > > ** ** > > Thoughts? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hooray,

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2012-04-16 Thread Michael B. Smith
Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! #2 There are rules/best practises to follow such as not using snapshots when updating DCs that are virtual, but the biggest issue, which u

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2012-04-16 Thread Michael B. Smith
Not in my opinion. But it's all about what you are used to. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Is the consensus that

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2012-04-16 Thread David Mazzaccaro
: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Yes! By physical boxes, we'll presume a box that's running as a DC, and not your hosts as Scott pithily responded... :-) And you may as well run a physical box for your vC

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2012-04-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
ere both things about > it that didn't seem quite as "polished" as VMware? > -- > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 16 April 2012 4:55 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving

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2012-04-16 Thread Jonathan Link
to:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 1:05 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > ** ** > > Yes! > > ** ** > > By physical boxes, we'll presume a box that's running as a DC

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2012-04-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
the timing > falls nicely with our SAN and server refresh, but honestly the only reason > I can see for looking at moving would be license costs - VMware works out > expensive if you have more than a few hosts and want more than the basics. > >

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2012-04-16 Thread John Cook
, 2012 2:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! How many VMs are you able to run on each of your 3 hosts? With only 10 physical servers now.. I am wondering if 3 hosts are going to be overkill. Even with a play/test environment of another 10 servers

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
Sent: 16 April 2012 7:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! How many VMs are you able to run on each of your 3 hosts? With only 10 physical servers now.. I am wondering if 3 hosts are going to be overkill. Even with a play/test environment of another 10 ser

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2012-04-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
…. Are 3 hosts a > waste? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 1:05 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > ** ** > > Yes! >

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2012-04-16 Thread David Mazzaccaro
iod. Thoughts? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! >> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V boxes i

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2012-04-16 Thread David Mazzaccaro
That is awesome. What are the hardware specs of the DL380? From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! FWIW I can run our entire infrastructure (and do when I&#x

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2012-04-16 Thread Brian Desmond
5-6 guests per host? How tiny are these hosts? Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! We aver

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2012-04-16 Thread David Mazzaccaro
I'm thinking knocking 1 host off the quote would save me $25k - enough for a 2nd SAN to be placed in a secondary site. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMwar

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2012-04-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
6944* > > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4* > > ** ** > > *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 2:24 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! >

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2012-04-16 Thread John Cook
(352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! How does that work now? Are the 11 guests distributed d

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2012-04-16 Thread Jonathan Link
edicated to specific hosts always? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 2:32 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > >

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2012-04-16 Thread Chinnery, Paul
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! How does that work now? Are the 11 guests distributed dynamically across the 3 hosts? Or are they dedicated to specific hosts always?

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
cc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: 16 April 2012 8:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! That is awesome. What are the hardware specs of the DL380? From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:43 PM To: NT System Ad

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2012-04-16 Thread Don Kuhlman
  Thoughts?     From:Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!   >>Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V >>boxes individually

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2012-04-16 Thread Ziots, Edward
Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! We average about 20-25 guests per host right now. More in our development environment. What size hardware are you using? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon

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2012-04-16 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Do you have a secondary SAN in case there is a problem w/ it? From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! I don't have vmotion, they're assigned to spec

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2012-04-16 Thread John Cook
l (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! 5-6 guests per host? How tiny are these hosts? Thanks, Brian Desmo

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2012-04-16 Thread Heaton, Joseph@DFG
port From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:24 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! How many VMs are you able to run on each of your 3 hosts? With only 10 physical servers now.. I am

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2012-04-16 Thread Paul Hutchings
Just to clarify that you won't get DRS with the Essentials/Essentials Plus bundle as that comes with Enterprise onwards. From: Chinnery, Paul [pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: 16 April 2012 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to V

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2012-04-16 Thread Rankin, James R
I get much better XenDesktop performance on XenServer, FWIW ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:54:58 To: NT System Admin Issues Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Not like it

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2012-04-16 Thread Ken Schaefer
hought those were both things about it that didn't seem quite as "polished" as VMware? From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>] Sent: 16 April 2012 4:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'

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2012-04-17 Thread Kramer, Jack
in@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:24:03 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! How many VMs are you able to run on each of your 3 hosts? With only 10 physical servers now.. I

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2012-04-17 Thread Steven Peck
s to manage your VMWare side. Dunno about SCVMM > 2012 > > ** ** > > Cheers > > Ken > > ** ** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 April 2012 2:31 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re:

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2012-08-20 Thread Webster
host seems slightly excessive (consider we can and >occasionally do run around 50 VM's on one host with 144gb). > >From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] >Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! >

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2012-08-20 Thread Steven Peck
>Each license gives you 32gb of vRAM entitlement. > > > >6 x 32 = 192gb vRAM across all three hosts. > > > >So 196gb per host seems slightly excessive (consider we can and > >occasionally do run around 50 VM's on one host with 144gb). > >____

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2012-08-20 Thread Michael B. Smith
Yeah, well, Server 2012 Hyper-V pretty much forced that. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Looks like this (vRAM entitlement) will no longer

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2012-08-20 Thread Crawford, Scott
Hmmm, a week after 2012 RTM'd. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Looks like this (vRAM entitlement) will no longer be an issue. http://w

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2012-08-20 Thread Webster
ssage- >From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] >Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > >Looks like this (vRAM entitlement) will no longer be an issue. > >http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/240005840/vmware-kills-vram-licensing-will-f >ocus-on-vsphere-cloud-bundles.htm

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2012-08-20 Thread Andrew S. Baker
gt; >So 196gb per host seems slightly excessive (consider we can and >> >occasionally do run around 50 VM's on one host with 144gb). >> > >> >From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] >> >Subject

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2012-08-20 Thread Andrew S. Baker
l Message- > From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 4:45 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! > > Looks like this (vRAM entitlement) will no longer be an issue. > > http://www.crn.com/

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2012-08-21 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Good to know (I actually started this thread, and have yet to move to VM)... -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 4:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware! Looks like this (vRAM entitl