RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed

2009-08-27 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
It's the associative property: All p*rn is bad, therefore all p*rn sites are bad. -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed HEY!.. not all

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2009-08-27 Thread Charlie Kaiser
ginal Message- > From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:47 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > Hmm... Still have to found out the root cause. Why did 12 > machines have the same

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2009-08-27 Thread Jacob
cause (a whole other issue). -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed Sometimes. Let's say you have an application issue with a de

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2009-08-27 Thread Ray
because "one time, 5 years ago..". -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed Sometimes. Let's say you have an application issue with a

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2009-08-27 Thread Charlie Kaiser
jmajorow...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > I think the implied comment is that a wipe/rebuild is more > cost effective use of man-hours than troubleshooting for most > *D

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2009-08-27 Thread Charlie Kaiser
- > From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:53 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > But all too often IT is running leaner, as well as the > endusers could be. > Techs screwing around fo

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2009-08-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
las [mailto:lee.doug...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:50 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > > > One thing they left out is to format the drive and start over - I've heard > that a lot on this forum > &g

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2009-08-27 Thread Jim Majorowicz
Aren't you paid to say that? :) -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed HEY!.. not all p*rn sites are bad! ;-) -Original Message-

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2009-08-27 Thread Jim Majorowicz
arlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed Troubleshooting is an extremely valuable tool. Curing a symptom doesn't fix a problem. Even a wipe and rebuild can be ineffective i

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2009-08-27 Thread Jacob
HEY!.. not all p*rn sites are bad! ;-) -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed I dunno; I think that's a bit harsh considering the

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2009-08-27 Thread Devin Meade
could be. > Techs screwing around for 1/2 hour or longer just cause downtime for both > parties. > > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:55 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE:

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2009-08-27 Thread Ray
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed Troubleshooting is an extremely valuable tool. Curing a symptom doesn't fix a problem. Even a wipe and rebuild can be ineffective if the root cause is elsewhere. It's one thing to wipe/rebuild a desktop machine for a problem

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2009-08-27 Thread Charlie Kaiser
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:25 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > I just think that it serves them > right to have that inconvenience because of their own actions.

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2009-08-27 Thread Raper, Jonathan
bercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed I'm an advocate for re-imaging when the user has gotten spyware/malware etc on their workstation and are having issues because of that.I just

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2009-08-27 Thread Jacob
[mailto:can...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed I *love* it! On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Kurt Buff wrote: Now anyone can be a sysadmin/tech support person: http://xkcd.com/627/ ~ Finally, power

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2009-08-27 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
-- > > *From:* Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:09 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > > > +1 When I'm quoting a machine fix for someone

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2009-08-27 Thread Raper, Jonathan
_ From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed +1 When I'm quoting a machine fix for someone, I often tell them that it is quicker/cheaper to wipe &

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2009-08-27 Thread Len Hammond
.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:16 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > > > "lost art"? > > Or (in most cases) it's just not cost effective. > > > > > ---

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2009-08-27 Thread Don Guyer
(610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com <mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed +1 Time is mo

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2009-08-27 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
; "lost art"? > Or (in most cases) it's just not cost effective. > > > -- > *From:* Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:06 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: OT: Our pro

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2009-08-27 Thread Charlie Kaiser
*** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** > -Original Message- > From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:47 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: Ou

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2009-08-27 Thread Maglinger, Paul
That's only for Macs. From: Lee Douglas [mailto:lee.doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed One thing they left out is to format the drive and start over -

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2009-08-27 Thread David Lum
what happened amazes other tech's. Dave From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed "lost art"? Or (in most cases) it'

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2009-08-27 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + >> >> ezi...@lifespan.org >> >> Phone:401-639-3505 >> ---------------------- >> >> *From:* Candee Vaglica [mailto:can...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:52 AM >> *To:* NT Sy

RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed

2009-08-27 Thread David Mazzaccaro
"lost art"? Or (in most cases) it's just not cost effective. From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Our profession has been exposed That's

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2009-08-27 Thread Don Guyer
650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com <mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com> From: Lee Douglas [mailto:lee.doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed One thing they left out is to format the drive

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2009-08-27 Thread Lee Douglas
* Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:52 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed > > > > I *love* it! > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Kurt Buff wrote: > > Now anyone can be a sysadmin/tech support person: >

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2009-08-27 Thread Ziots, Edward
...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed I *love* it! On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Kurt Buff wrote: Now anyone can be a sysadmin/tech support person: http://xkcd.com/627/ ~ Finally, powerful

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2009-08-27 Thread David Lum
+1 Printed and will be posted in the window of our Service Desk office for all to see... From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:can...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Our profession has been exposed I *love* it! On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12

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2009-08-27 Thread Candee Vaglica
I *love* it! On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Now anyone can be a sysadmin/tech support person: > > http://xkcd.com/627/ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ ~ > ~ Finally, p