RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

It's how I was hired. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Yes, you can get an interview and be complete wrong for the position, but still m

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

PM, Sherry Abercrombie < sabercrom...@nhdallas.com> wrote: My thoughts exactly Don. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Agreed, but knee-deep in the job search

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< sabercrom...@nhdallas.com> wrote: > My thoughts exactly Don. > > ** ** > > *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] > *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2011 12:33 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT > > ** **

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My thoughts exactly Don. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Agreed, but knee-deep in the job search myself as we speak, even if you're not "fully-qualified"

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Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com <http://www.fiserv.com/> From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT &quo

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b in a lousy job market. Nice job BTW Sherry! Dave From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Do not put your college graduation date on a resume, only the degree earned

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

tember 23, 2011 7:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human, and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up doing it subconsciously. Imagine two 55-year-old ap

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Inviato: venerdì 23 settembre 2011 16.29 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human, and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up

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ailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]> Inviato: venerdì 23 settembre 2011 16.29 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human, and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up doi

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

P MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Daniel Evensen [mailto:dane...@att.net] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT I try to focus on the items that can be changed. My health, I walk 50 mi

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School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Ya, but that A+ still hangs in there :) On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:31 PM, David Lum mailto:david@n

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erview and had a job offer 5 days after turning in my resume for it! From: Daniel Evensen [mailto:dane...@att.net] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT I try to focus on the items that can be changed. My health, I walk

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employment history so that is one reason Andrews advice was spot on. Daniel Evensen - Original Message - From: David To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:15 PM Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT I'm about your age and had similar experi

Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

11 2:25 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, wrote: > > You mean my NT4 MCSE should be removed from my CV? > > I thought that was my killer qualification :-) > > What no CNE? > > -- Ben >

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LOL, I took CNE (the little Novell cert) off my resume a few years ago.. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM

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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, wrote: > You mean my NT4 MCSE should be removed from my CV? > I thought that was my killer qualification :-) What no CNE? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

min Issues Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Regardless of ones age, anything on the resume that goes back more than 10-12 years is of limited value, unless you're in the same organization as you were a decade ago. Beyond that, technology prof

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that don’t want an oldster… > > > ** ** > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:23 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT > > ** ** > > Amen and +1 on this. Having gone thro

Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

rris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:23 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT > > ** ** > > Amen and +1 on this. Having gone through this two years ago most of the > applicants I was competing

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

27;t want an oldster. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Amen and +1 on this. Having gone through this two years ago most of the applicants I was competing against were in the

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

I know two of the big healthcare vendors, those that supply HCIS to providers, have a hiring policy just like that for the programming side. Low pay, long hours but a great thing to put on a resume. Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:23:29 -0400 Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT From: jk.har

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

Amen, brother -Original Message- From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Just saw this post. You were able to retire at 42? Seriously? Wow, someone must

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o: NT System Admin Issues Subject: re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Just saw this post. You were able to retire at 42? Seriously? Wow, someone must have really done well in the stock market. I'm way jealous. I'm 45 and don't see mysefelf retiring until my early 90's. Two daughter

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Just saw this post. You were able to retire at 42? Seriously? Wow, someone must have really done well in the stock market. I'm way jealous. I'm 45 and don't see mysefelf retiring until my early 90's. Two daughters to put through college. Chris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

t: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Yeah, because questioning superiors is bad and all. I mean, it worked great for the Nazis. Yes, I did it. I Godwinned this thread. Seriously, though, if you can't ask questions then i

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Yeah, because questioning superiors is bad and all. I mean, it worked great for the Nazis. Yes, I did it. I Godwinned this thread. Seriously, though, if you can't ask questions then it's not a place you want to work, anyway. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Jon Harris wrote: > Amen and +1 on

Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

Amen and +1 on this. Having gone through this two years ago most of the applicants I was competing against were in the sub 35 age range and when ever I got an interview the major questions were about pay and how low I would go, and a lot less on skills. I know at least one place I did not get an

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

If I was a hiring person, I'd be much more wary of the 10 years absence. If you can convince the employer that your skills are current/adequate for today's needs/wants (or for their needs/wants), then I don't think age will be a problem. I'm in the same age bracket as Daniel. Mark On 20 Septe

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

Discrimination in IT one issue related to age discrimination has to do with salary expectations, and that the young bucks just out of schooling have less responsibility, less expenses, and therefore will accept lower salaries implying that the older applicants automatically would not accept as low a

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

. From: Pat Marshall [mailto:patm...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT As a woman who's been in IT since the early 80's (yup, I'm an old bag), I've seen my share of age and sex discrim

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

college. I hope I'll get to accumulate 30 plus years of experience ;) ~d Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: andy Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Back when I was taking engineering clase

Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

one issue related to age discrimination has to do with salary expectations, and that the young bucks just out of schooling have less responsibility, less expenses, and therefore will accept lower salaries implying that the older applicants automatically would not accept as low a salary, costing

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

I'm not a young 'un anymore. My 02 cents worth. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT I wouldn't discriminate against anyone based on age when recruiting, and I&

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, I would say, go for it. There are way too many companies who have cut corners by hiring very inexperienced help and they need the expertise. All the best, Pat Marshall _ From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues

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Back when I was taking engineering clasess, If one girl walked in - we were all ... cool ... there is a girl in this class If two girls walked in - we started getting suspicious. If 3 girls walked in, we were definitely in the wrong class and started checking to see where we should be. I think t

RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT

I have had several bad experiences with interviews and age. One 'Kid' of 24 told me 'God, you're old!' My response was 'Yea I was probably running coax and twisted pair when you were in diapers' I wanted to say 'that was 5 years ago while I was listening to AC-DC' too. I get the old fart a lo

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I wouldn't discriminate against anyone based on age when recruiting, and I've never experienced any, but at 35 I guess it would be unlikely for me to experience it yet. I work with a couple of guys who are in their 50s and the experience they have is invaluable. Having said that, there are also so