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: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations We looked at the KBox several years ago. Is it still extremely expensive? (I think we were quoted $20,000, which is a lot for us.) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message

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@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:25:03 -0800 Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations > I had a conference yesterday with the Kace team and a product overview. The > newest release has lots of cool features that I didn't see in the version I > used previously.

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enses. Not that it may matter to the list, but I always found the Kbox agent very easy to deploy and upgrade. Tom From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations We run Kace as a Vi

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I'm just glad I no longer have to travel there for games. It's a pitstop on our way to Las Vegas. -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recom

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January 17, 2013 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations There is that. Kind of an odd town though. My kids played sports against Kingman. -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 201

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To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Wow.I feel sorry for you, man. Your life could be a lot easier. Frankly, I'm not surprised MS consulting can't get it working. We were having a discussion about this last week. MCS has about as much time to

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line. From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Of course there's a larger problem, none of which is within my control. They've been screwing around with SCCM for se

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There is that. Kind of an odd town though. My kids played sports against Kingman. -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

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t [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Well, there's a larger problem then that needs to be addressed. These things should be automated. Patching using ConfigMgr is not that toug

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Admin Issues" Date: 01/17/2013 11:26 AM Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations Did they approach it that way because you are a 2007 shop? Or, did they take 2012 into consideration for their demo? I say that because, 2012 with SP1 allows less infrastructure, views in

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Most definitely. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Was that a Symantec-inspired upgrade? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> Pro

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Shavlik if not mentioned already Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: joseph palmieri [mailto:jpalm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management

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53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations In Kingman? Wow. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http

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that your endpoints are secure today, instead of having to wait for you to get around to each PC. All of those maintenance tasks and PC reviews can be automated, too. From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch

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Also two other windows virtuals on the same host. > > The instructor led training was very good also. > > ** ** > > *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE:

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, is a hands on review of what's on the PC, do some maintenance, etc. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Fixed that for you... -Original Message-

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; Date:01/17/2013 09:54 AM Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations _ I’m curious. What impressed you about Altiris? I ask because, from what I’ve heard, they are good presenters and good salespeople, but the product itself has really tanked since

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hlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: "Rod Trent" To: "NT System Admin Issues" Date: 01/17/2013 09:54 AM Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations I’m curi

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Fixed that for you... -Original Message- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations In Kingman? Wow. Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it

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In Kingman? Wow. Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. Obviously that's not practical for everyone. -Original Message---

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, January 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. We had MS come in and give us a presentation on SCCM 2012, and then had Symantec come in for Altiris. Got to say I was impressed by Altiris. Christ

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, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Almost all the Virginia Community colleges, dumped Altiris in favor of KACE. The latest update to Altiris was a

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...and there's ManageEngine's DesktopCentral which does patch mgt, asset mgt, file & program distribution - pretty inexpensive. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click her

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e and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: "Rod Trent" To: "NT System Admin Issues" Date: 01/17/2013 09:09 AM Subject:

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very good also. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations I'd take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday's news. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/

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We've had good experience with Continuum, a MSP platform, albeit so far for clients smaller than 50 seats. On 1/17/2013 8:39 AM, Christopher Bodnar wrote: Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of

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17, 2013 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineerin

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Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com

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I'd take a look at the KACE (Now Dell) Kbox systems, the last time I looked at them a couple of years ago they did all that. Available as both physical Dell boxes or VM appliances. If I remember correctly I think they had a multiple tenancy facility, but I could be mistaken. There are a few users

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Make sure to add SolarWinds Patch Manager to your list. http://www.solarwinds.com/patch-manager.aspx From: joseph palmieri [mailto:jpalm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations look at LANDesk

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look at LANDesk security suite (not cheep) it has all the functionality you need and more...only downside is tech support reps look to close trouble ticket without resolving issue --- On Wed, 1/16/13, Charlie Kaiser wrote: From: Charlie Kaiser Subject: Patch management recommendations To: "NT

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: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management software... Thanks for the heads up, Marc And especially thanks for the lovely 32-IP and 128-IP editions, which will help make them ubiquitous in SMB

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r.com/marcmaiffret > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Marc Maiffret [mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:10 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Patch management software... > > ** ** > > Lively de

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Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management software... Lively debates going on about

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Lively debates going on about doing so... :) My vote is yes, so there is a good chance that might happen soon. -Marc From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management software... That's really

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s Subject: RE: Patch management software... I doesn't list SBS as a supported OS though, which is a concern. From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 4:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management software... Thanks for all of the repl

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ways check with them, but I wouldn't guarantee they'd know the difference. Dave From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management software... I doesn't list SBS as a supported OS though,

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I doesn't list SBS as a supported OS though, which is a concern. From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 4:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management software... Thanks for all of the replies. I'm looking over the recomm

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I would highly recommend installing the free demo and trying it out. I am VERY impressed. Thanks, Mike From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:dhoe...@ufcoop.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management software... For the small Windows installations

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Hmm, the last time Marc had me send it to some offshore account - the CIA/FBI/NSA/Homeland security let him back in? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management

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have just saved a client of mine a Shavlik renewal Mark... > >Dave > >-Original Message- >From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:25 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: Patch management software... > >Indeed it

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lto:al...@eckelberry.com] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:38 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Cc: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Patch management software... > > If it includes adobe and flash patching that is a sweet deal. Apart from > windows those are the

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You may have just saved a client of mine a Shavlik renewal Mark... Dave -Original Message- From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management software... Indeed it does Adobe Reader, Flash

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- From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@eckelberry.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management software... If it includes adobe and flash patching that is a sweet deal. Apart from windows those are the two

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If it includes adobe and flash patching that is a sweet deal. Apart from windows those are the two programs that need vigilant patching. Alex Eckelberry www.eckelberry.com (c) 727 – 644 – 8830 Sent from my iPhone (Please excuse the occasional typos) On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Marc Maiffret

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If you want cheap/free try ninite and wsus combined. Otherwise gfi languard is very inexpensive. Shavlik is is very good but might not fit your budget. Lumension is also decent but it is not cheap. Alex Eckelberry www.eckelberry.com (c) 727 – 644 – 8830 Sent from my iPhone (Please excuse the

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Check out the free version of our Retina CS Community Edition. It is good up to 128 systems for free. Includes full vulnerability management and patching including patching for some third party apps. http://www.eeye.com/products/retina/community http://go.eeye.com/LP=68 -Marc Signed, Marc Mai

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+1 on the Kbox if it's affordable for your customers. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management software... Check out D

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It does manage MACs, not sure about patching though. >>> ntsysadmin 1/30/2012 4:58 PM >>> I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It’s okay if I can’t find a

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Check out Dell's KBox systems. We use one here for about 1,000 PC and our servers. I think they recently released a smaller version for small offices such as yours. Patch management is one component, and it's very easy and hands off once you configure it. >>> ntsysadmin 1/30/2012 4:58 PM >>>

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For the small Windows installations you might take a look at Desktop Central by ManageEngine, I believe they still offer a free version for up to 25 workstations. Dennis From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subje

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I use both Shavlik and WSUS. Both places that I have managed to get Shavlik netChk Protect (%dayjob% and one %nightjob%) going I have found it useful to maintain WSUS for Windows-specific items. WSUS is very low maintenance, handling Java, Adobe, etc takes additional work. Not sure if it's the

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Hey Mike We have about 150 users and have the CSI Secunia product. It integrates quite well into WSUS and takes little time to add an adobe or quicktime update. Sent from my BlackBird. -Original Message- From: ntsysadmin Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:58:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Reply-

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Have you looked at Windows Intune? From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I'm looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstatio

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On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM, ntsysadmin wrote: > I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several > of my small business clients. ... Are there any free options out > there that are worthwhile? WSUS. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog!

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es. The only way we finally got a > whole lot >> of this to finally work was thru our TAM and whatever that support > team is >> called. They spent days at our site trying to get it to work. >> >> >> >> I would hope most sites aren't as fundamental

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tations to > communicate with the server. > > Then I’d start trying to deploy the secondary sites. > > From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:54 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: RE: Patch management, revisited > > Ray - you

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e secondary sites. From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Patch management, revisited Ray - you make a good point. We're covering 13 locations across the US, with varying WAN connectivity. A

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e seems to be endless variations on how, and how often, you want the workstations to communicate with the server. Then I'd start trying to deploy the secondary sites. From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subj

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ing amount of power. > > > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:50 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited > > > > If you don't do third party patches, SCCM is _alm

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M To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited If you don't do third party patches, SCCM is _almost_ exactly like WSUS. It is based on the WSUS engine as a matter of fact, and you have to install WSUS on the Software Update Point. J Doing the SCCM installation can

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uary 04, 2011 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RE: Patch management, revisited Do you ever run into any problems with SCCM clients where folks have done supernetting of AD Sites? Our SSCM guys are scared of it because they were told it could be problematic but we're tired

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ichael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RE: Patch management, revisited So, I wouldn't do anything without a few hours of discovery. But if you are just going to use it for patch management, say three days (worst

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.aspx WakeUp eliminates close to 99% of client health issues. From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited You are being too kind J That said, once up, the

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Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited You teach SCCM classes? Good to know, because I can't even get it to install - it dies at "Setup failed to install SMS provider:" error which IIRC means I need to do some setspn thing. Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smith

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And there ya go. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited http://social.technet.microsoft.com

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M and upgrade our old SMS environment. Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited Like I said - it can be a little finicky to install. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultan

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http://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/configmgrsetup/thread/d06a6 b81-68d0-466a-8382-ceb7fb0bb8c3/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited Like I said - it

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Like I said - it can be a little finicky to install. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited

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ithcons.com]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited If you don't do third party patches, SCCM is _almost_ exactly like WSUS. It is based on the WSUS engine as a matter of fact, and you have to install WSUS on the Softwa

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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RE: Patch management, revisited Sure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:40 PM To: NT S

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ael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Patch management, revisited "SCCM works very well if you have the time and staff to dedicat

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Sure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Patch management, revisited Also, if we wanted to start with WSUS and then

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Also, if we wanted to start with WSUS and then migrate to SCCM down the road, is that realistically feasible? Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. On Feb 4, 2011 2:36 PM, "Jonathan" wrote: > "SCCM works very well if you have the time

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"SCCM works very well if you have the time and staff to dedicate to it. I have about 1,000 PCs/ laptops here and tried SCCM, but never had the time to dedicate to it. And it was a real a pain to manage when you have limited time. But, it can be a great product and has flexibility. I wasn't willing

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, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management, revisited SCCM works very well if you have the time and staff to d

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Not correcting - just clarifying. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management, revisited I stand corrected

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riday, February 04, 2011 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Patch management, revisited how does sccm handle clients that are not joined to active directory? Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. On Feb 4, 2011 2:02 PM, &qu

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Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management, revisited SCCM works very well if you have the time and staff to dedicate to it. I

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y can also be any PC (workstation) or server with an agent. > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > Consultant and Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:58 PM > To: NT System Admi

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System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management, revisited SCCM works very well if you have the time and staff to dedicate to it. I have about 1,000 PCs/laptops here and tried SCCM, but never had the time to dedicate to it. And it was a real a pain to manage when you have limited time. But

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SCCM works very well if you have the time and staff to dedicate to it. I have about 1,000 PCs/laptops here and tried SCCM, but never had the time to dedicate to it. And it was a real a pain to manage when you have limited time. But, it can be a great product and has flexibility. I wasn't wil

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Just my opinion, but based on your requirements, SCCM is still the leading candidate - and I have experience with all of them. KACE may come close, IF the number of end-points is closer to 700 than 2000. One of the HUGE factors that you need to also consider is the amount of support you will g

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If you don't do third party patches, SCCM is _almost_ exactly like WSUS. It is based on the WSUS engine as a matter of fact, and you have to install WSUS on the Software Update Point. :) Doing the SCCM installation can be a little finicky; but once you set it up - it just RUNS. The challenge w

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WSUS and SCCM 2007. We can't beat the license agreement our company has! On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Brumbaugh, Luke wrote: > Now that I have figured out how to update adobe. > > My next question is what do you guys use for patch management. > > > > What do you think of EminentWare for wsu

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I should start reading the full threads before replying :) Forgot to add that I was the patch management solution at my previous job, don't know what they use here yet. All application updates were via vb scripts that ran at shutdown, naturally I forgot to take copies before I left. T typed slo

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My first choice would be Kbox systems management appliance now from dell. There is no difference in pricing between agents for desktops or servers. Also gives you hardware/software inventory, application deployment, security compliance scanning, license compliance and a lot more. You can get it a

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+1 From: david@nwea.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:24:27 -0700 Subject: RE: Patch Management Shavlik. Haven’t tried EminentWare. Dave From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:55

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kbox, but the appliance is also software distribution, remote control, inventorying, etc. >>> "Brumbaugh, Luke" 10/28/2010 1:54 PM >>> Now that I have figured out how to update adobe. My next question is what do you guys use for patch management. What do you think of EminentWare for wsus? I

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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch Management Shavlik. Haven't tried EminentWare. Dave From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:

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Shavlik. Haven't tried EminentWare. Dave From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch Management Now that I have figured out how to update adobe. My next question is what do you guys use for pat

RE: Patch Management - again

-Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Patch Management - again > And even Win32 (NT/9x) didn't have anything approaching a common installer > system until 2000 or so, and side-by-side DLL installs didn't show up > until...

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ead use .. a -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: 15 June 2010 17:15 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch Management - again It isn't. The WSUS engine is more than capable of distributing and automatically installing third-party updates -

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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Steven Peck wrote: > So as I have said.  Pretty much every issue has not been patch > related.  But having called MS we had help identifying the actual > cause of the issue. That doesn't make Windows better at package management; it just means if you pay for Mic

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... On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Steven Peck wrote: >> Debian had the Drupal CMS in their distributions for >> years and despite many attempts we could not get that thing out of >> their despite it being old/unsecure/not-desired all because

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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Steven Peck wrote: > Debian had the Drupal CMS in their distributions for > years and despite many attempts we could not get that thing out of > their despite it being old/unsecure/not-desired all because some guy > refused to remove it from the repo. > > At least

Re: Patch Management - again

Yes but with the Linux tree updates identifying the actual issue and who has the authority to change / update / do it right can be challenging. Debian had the Drupal CMS in their distributions for years and despite many attempts we could not get that thing out of their despite it being old/unsecur

Re: Patch Management - again

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: >>>shaky foundation? > > The DOS, Win16 underpinnings... And even Win32 (NT/9x) didn't have anything approaching a common installer system until 2000 or so, and side-by-side DLL installs didn't show up until... what, Win XP? XP SP2? .N

Re: Patch Management - again

*>>shaky foundation?* The DOS, Win16 underpinnings... Installed base is great when everything has been well laid out. Not so great, when you're bound to earlier suboptimal decisions... -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Joseph Heaton wrote: > shaky foundatio

Re: Patch Management - again

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Steven Peck wrote: > You are essentially relying on 'some' > to be doing something 'right' or at least agreed on and that their > choices will not nuke your existing configuration. Well, unless you write all software you use yourself, you're always relying on s

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