Personally,
Consultation would be my choice. You did what any good employee would
do, when leaving, training the next person to take over the position,
which means they are responsible, and not you..
If they need help from you, then its going to have to be after-hours and
a per-hour charge for
Am I losing the plot, or did that reply just take about nine months to come
through?
2009/11/24 Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
Personally,
Consultation would be my choice. You did what any good employee would
do, when leaving, training the next person to take over the position,
which
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting former employer
Am I losing the plot, or did that reply just take about nine months to
come through?
2009/11/24 Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
Personally,
Consultation
I think the reply came through pretty quick, it just took Mr. Ziots 9 months to
type it. :)
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting former employer
Am I losing the plot, or did that reply
: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
I think the reply came through pretty quick, it just took Mr. Ziots 9
months to type it. :-)
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:34 AM
+, VSP4, VTSP4
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Yeah it did :)
Sorry, cleaning up emails, and just had to reply to that one.
Z
Edward Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan
Email is the lowest priority traffic innit.
On 24/11/2009, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am I losing the plot, or did that reply just take about nine months to come
through?
2009/11/24 Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org
Personally,
Consultation would be my choice. You did what
:401-639-3505
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Finally getting a slack day EZ? You've been uncharacteristically quiet
these days
...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Nope, I been buried up to my eye-brows in work and I head out for Vacation
tomorrow... But yeah with the CISSP prep and test in Feb 2010, I have been
busy...
Z
Edward
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Well good luck on that and enjoy the time off!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315
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*From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:40 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Supporting former employer
Well good luck on that and enjoy the time off!
*John W. Cook*
*Systems Administrator
: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting former employer
As hard as the test is, I think you will do fine... Especially with 6+
months of studying under your belt...
What you really want to pray for is that your head doesn't explode after
the test
CISSP.. I have a feeling someone will be busy on his vacation! I was when I
studied for my PMP.
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Nope, I been buried up to my eye
System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting former employer
As hard as the test is, I think you will do fine... Especially with 6+
months of studying under your belt...
What you really want to pray for is that your head doesn't explode after
the test... I walked out of mine in a daze...
On Tue
-639-3505
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
CISSP.. I have a feeling someone will be busy on his vacation! I was
when I studied for my PMP
...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
CISSP.. I have a feeling someone will be busy on his vacation! I was when I
studied for my PMP.
NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written
a day prepping... Hoping for the best!
-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Yeah did a CISSP prep course also with 2 CISSP teaching at my workplace
-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Yeah did a CISSP prep course also with 2 CISSP teaching at my workplace
(yeah I set it up), so that helps reinforce what I need to know
, 2009 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
PMP is next on my to-do list this spring after I graduate.
Did you pass the first time around? What are your thoughts in the process?
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318
+1
Sean Rector, MCSE
-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Those who would expect me to come back and do work for them for
free
Consultant
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Supporting former employer
I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I
gave my 2-week notice, worked
Yes.
My fee is $X/hour. The rate can be reduced by walking the tech through this
over the phone, rather than driving to your place of business. I covered
this specific incident in detail before I left (if you have documentation of
this, provide it).
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Chris Blair
I would not hesitate do both, with phone support being first if possible, good
will goes a long long way.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009
My first response is like Sean's but it's a small world and like people to
think nice things about me, so I probably give them one for free. After its
working, I email the solution to the dt support guy along with CCing my
previous manager and let them know that in the future I will be happy
+1
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Walk them through it. If it gets bad and you have to go in and do a bunch of
work then consult it, or if it becomes a frequent event. I did it that way and
the guy moved on later and way up. Then he hired me for the best gig I have
ever had. What goes around sometimes comes around.
From:
CB Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:19:12 -0600
CB From: Chris Blair
CB So how would you handle the situation?
Without regard to former employment status; i.e., like any other
colleague or friend. If it doesn't take much out of you, then there's
no point in going out of your way to cause them grief.
I'd give whatever service I could to help as a freebie - this time -
since you don't want to burn any bridges.
Any future support provided would be billable.
Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076 x388
_
From: Chris Blair
Would offer your services to the former employer as a consultant job.
This way they won't take your services for granted.
---___
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com
, February 23, 2009 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Walk them through it. If it gets bad and you have to go in and do a bunch of
work then consult it, or if it becomes a frequent event. I did it that way and
the guy moved on later and way up. Then he hired me
This is an extremely subjective topic. I think the biggest concern,
especially in this economic environment, is don't burn any bridges.
I'm in a similar situation. I left my previous employer a few months ago.
A good friend of mine is still working there and has been roped into doing
Windows
+1 on this response
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
My first response
+1
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
I would not hesitate do both, with phone support being first if
possible, good will goes a long long way.
David Lum // SYSTEMS
The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me.
I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but
there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable.
What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect
bad about him...
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
+1
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
I would not hesitate do both, with phone
-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
My first response is like Sean's but it's a small world and like people to
think nice things about me, so I probably give them one
) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
The number of responses from folks recommending against
. Charging for my services doesn't mean I'm not.
:)
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
You can't put a price on good will. My time is valuable, but my reputation as
being helpful
System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will one
way or another. If one of my techs left and later wanted to charge me for
helping me with something, I would bear no ill will towards them for it. It
would
fellow employees this price too.. I don't get called to support them.
imagine that. LOL
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 13:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting former employer
Totally agreed. It's all a judgment call, every situation
: Supporting former employer
The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises
me.
I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it,
but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being
valuable. What *is* unreasonable
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will
one way or another.
Well, even if it *shouldn't*, it sometimes *does*. I find I have
better luck planning my life around
23, 2009 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting former employer
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will
one way or another.
Well, even
On 23 Feb 2009 at 11:19, Chris Blair wrote:
So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by
walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your
services as a consultant?
I would tell them I can help free if we can get this done in X
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