RE: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Jihui Choi [mailto:jihui.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 1:54 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

RE: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Graham Wright [mailto:gwright2...@hotmail.es] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 2:01 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 I often wonder why somebody that has Microsoft Office would have

Re: Fwd: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community Localization Plan

2012-06-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 01/06/2012 Martin Srebotnjak wrote: here is the full Slovenian translation for Apache OpenOffice 3.4: http://ooo.siccla.net/gsi/apacheOO/3.4.0/GSI_sl.sdf.gz Thanks Martin, Robert, it's great to see that you are continuing the OpenOffice localization effort! I assume your updates are

Re: Fwd: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community Localization Plan

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Wright
On 02/06/2012 09:43, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 01/06/2012 Martin Srebotnjak wrote: here is the full Slovenian translation for Apache OpenOffice 3.4: http://ooo.siccla.net/gsi/apacheOO/3.4.0/GSI_sl.sdf.gz Thanks Martin, Robert, it's great to see that you are continuing the OpenOffice

English language pack (Re: Fwd: Apache OpenOffice Community Localization Plan)

2012-06-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Graham Wright wrote: Is there an English language pack for 3.4 in the pipeline at all? Language packs for English (US) are at http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-lp while language pack for British English (en-GB) are at

Re: Fwd: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community Localization Plan

2012-06-02 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Yes, of course, it is available under the new Apache 2 license. We are also localizing LibreOffice under its own licence. Lp, m. 2012/6/2 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org On 01/06/2012 Martin Srebotnjak wrote: here is the full Slovenian translation for Apache OpenOffice 3.4:

Re: [Request] Korean language pack and id for pootle server

2012-06-02 Thread Jihui Choi
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@apache.org wrote: Dear Jihui Choi, This message acknowledges receipt of your ICLA, which has been filed in the Apache Software Foundation records. If you have been invited as a committer, please advise the project PMC that your ICLA has been

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/6/2 Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au -Original Message- From: Graham Wright [mailto:gwright2...@hotmail.es] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 2:01 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 I often

[EXT]Odd search results when searching on Extension site

2012-06-02 Thread RGB ES
1) If I go to the extension site and type español on the search box, I obtain several pages of results, but many of of those pages have only one or even no extensions! Clicking on the Tag Español gives better results. 2) Recently, a volunteer on the ES forums uploaded several ClipArt extensions:

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 6/1/12, Graham Wright gwright2...@hotmail.es wrote: On 02/06/2012 03:40, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice Basically

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Wolf Halton
When the US gov went to word from wordperfect sometime around 1994, pretty much everybody who interacted with the government went to MS Office within a year or so. I expect we will see a similar effect from Brazil and other governments moving to OFF. When I installed 3.4 on windows 7 and on Ubuntu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-06-02 Thread Wolf Halton
+1 to start graduation process. To me it seems that just as in an apprenticeship system, graduation does not imply perfection or mastery of the endeavour, but readiness to attempt journeyman-level work. Wolf http://evergreen-community-01.lyrasistechnology.org http://sourcefreedom.com Apache

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 6/2/12, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When the US gov went to word from wordperfect sometime around 1994, pretty much everybody who interacted with the government went to MS Office within a year or so. I expect we will see a similar effect from Brazil and other governments

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice Basically installing AOO doesn't

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Sorry to highlight something more here... The draft (which I insist is clearer that the resolved FAQ) says, under License Categories: Pedro, your logic violates every principle of interpretation. If something was in a

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread RGB ES
2012/6/2 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org: On 6/2/12, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When the US gov went to word from wordperfect sometime around 1994, pretty much everybody who interacted with the government went to MS Office within a year or so. I expect we will see a similar

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi Ross; I don't think it's my turn since my issues remain unresolved. I think Ross's idea was to stop batting this back and forth at a high level, and instead focus on a specific file. So get into the details rather than

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Jihui Choi
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, AOO installer on windows ask for file association, but maybe not with enough insistence: while I agree that the next, next, end + needed OK without thinking culture on this day computer world is plain wrong, it is not our

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
FWIW, part of migrating to a TLP involves relocating your svn tree to top-level, thereby breaking any links to svn urls in 3.4.0's source tarball.  No we do not support redirects for svn.a.o, and I doubt Subversion does either. I trust 3.4.1 will therefore address this issue properly going

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: FWIW, part of migrating to a TLP involves relocating your svn tree to top-level, thereby breaking any links to svn urls in 3.4.0's source tarball.  No we do not support redirects for svn.a.o, and I doubt Subversion

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Furthermore addressing this issue from a legal perspective misses the point- the org will certainly permit you to distribute Category-B sources for things that only are useful when compiled on the target host.  The point is that you should be distributing dependencies from either the mirrors using

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 02/06/2012 Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM, RGB ES wrote: AFAIK, AOO installer on windows ask for file association, but maybe not with enough insistence: while I agree that the next, next, end + needed OK without thinking culture on this day computer world is plain wrong,

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Ack.  To avoid complications we could do the svn promotion as a 2-stage copy + delete, where the delete happens post 3.4.1 release. From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Moving

Re: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Albino B Neto bino...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Questions relating to research! We aren't in order to adjust. Sorry long text. Legend: - Questions --Response options. Will this question be international? or is it local? An international survey might have

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 2/6/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Pedro, your logic violates every principle of interpretation.  If something was in a draft and then was removed from the draft, that suggests that there was not consensus for it to remain. I think the issue is strictly policy

Re: [BUILD] There is a build break on Mac OS X 10.5.8

2012-06-02 Thread Chao Huang
hi, Herbert I have already reconfigured the build env by appending --enable-verbose, then rebuilt SAL. The error message is the same. - Entering

Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service

2012-06-02 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 01/06/2012 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 01.06.2012 15:09, Rob Weir wrote: Also, if we follow Andrea's proposal, we don't link to the NL home page, but to the NL's download page directly. (If I understand

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 02/06/2012 Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM, RGB ES wrote: AFAIK, AOO installer on windows ask for file association, but maybe not with enough insistence: while I agree that the next, next, end

Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service

2012-06-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 31.05.2012 19:56, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Ok. Roberto, Rob and Kay are in favor to activate the

Re: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-02 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi, some notes inside. Albino B Neto schrieb: Hi. Questions relating to research! We aren't in order to adjust. Sorry long text. Legend: - Questions --Response options. *** - How old are you ? Why this question? - What S.O you use ? --Linux --Mac --Windows --other [what] The user

Incomplete downloading

2012-06-02 Thread lumen54
Madam or Sir, About three weeks apart, I tried twice to download and install OpenOffice. Maybe it's not downloading completely; but if I start trying to install, the percent-complete indicator just stops moving about 3/4 of the way through. My son introduced me to OpenOffice in '09. Now that

Re: Incomplete downloading

2012-06-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
lumen54 wrote: About three weeks apart, I tried twice to download and install OpenOffice. Maybe it's not downloading completely; but if I start trying to install, the percent-complete indicator just stops moving about 3/4 of the way through. The download page shows the option to choose another

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Samstag, 2. Juni 2012 um 00:41 schrieb Pedro Giffuni: --- Ven 1/6/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... And computers need electricity, which is not free and not available under a compatible license. I wish you could keep focused or at least do an effort to

Re: What is a PMC Chair?

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Since discussion has turned to graduation I'd like to invite people to consider who they would like to have as PMC chair. The first part of this is understanding what the role of a PMC chair is. Since someone

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 06/02/12 15:11, Juergen Schmidt wrote: ... Well I am a committer in the only big UNIX-like distribution that is carrying Apache OpenOffice nowadays. We would really like to use a source distribution through ASF mirrors but since the ASF doesn't provide one that works well we have been

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
This situation doesn't seem to be diffusing itself, even tho I have tried to explain that the 3.4.0 release deps packaging does not comply with infra policy. Surely there is a middle ground here- that the missing release deps package simply be generated from those tarballs in svn.  So long as the

What to do with the Czech homepage?

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
http://www.openoffice.org/cs/ I don't read Czech, but I was going over the NL pages to verify download links, in preparation for when we enable the OOo 3.3 upgrades. You can get a good sense of the page via http://translate.google.com If any knows Czech, it would be good to confirm what

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: This situation doesn't seem to be diffusing itself, even tho I have tried to explain that the 3.4.0 release deps packaging does not comply with infra policy. Surely there is a middle ground here- that the missing

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process) On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Joe Schaefer

Re: What to do with the Czech homepage?

2012-06-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/03/2012 12:16 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: http://www.openoffice.org/cs/ I don't read Czech, but I was going over the NL pages to verify download links, in preparation for when we enable the OOo 3.3 upgrades. You can get a good sense of the page via http://translate.google.com If any knows

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation

Re: What to do with the Czech homepage?

2012-06-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 2012-06-02, at 18:37 , Marcus (OOo) wrote: @Pavel: Could you sheet some light on the cz webpage? What do you think? Should Pavel be disinclined to update these—I have no reason to think he would be, and he's been involved with OOo and AOO for about as long as I—the Czech community

Re: What to do with the Czech homepage?

2012-06-02 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 06/03/2012 02:22 AM, schrieb Louis Suárez-Potts: On 2012-06-02, at 18:37 , Marcus (OOo) wrote: @Pavel: Could you sheet some light on the cz webpage? What do you think? Should Pavel be disinclined to update these—I have no reason to think he would be, and he's been involved with OOo and