Re: Problem with constraint_binding

2017-03-21 Thread Heath Frankel
features. Bert Op zo 19 mrt. 2017 om 23:35 schreef Heath Frankel mailto:heath.fran...@oceanhealthsystems.com>>: See SPECPR-132 and proposed solution in SPECPR-165 which is designed to not break the current schema. They appear to be assigned to R1.1 but not progressed to a CR. Heath

RE: Problem with constraint_binding

2017-03-19 Thread Heath Frankel
See SPECPR-132 and proposed solution in SPECPR-165 which is designed to not break the current schema. They appear to be assigned to R1.1 but not progressed to a CR. Heath From: Heath Frankel Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2017 10:52 PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions mailto:openehr-clinical

RE: Problem with constraint_binding

2017-03-19 Thread Heath Frankel
Perhaps I have come in at the wrong point of the conversation and missed the original question but I believe that the SEC has already approved a change (or at least got a change proposal from me, I’ll need to follow up to find the Jira card) to add a value to the mappings code phrase. Is this a

RE: initial states for instructions / when do we need actions?

2016-07-12 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Pablo, Some comments below. Heath From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of pablo pazos Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2016 12:29 PM To: openeh technical ; openehr clinical ; s...@lists.openehr.org Subject: ISM: initial states for instructions / when d

RE: Shouldn't INSTRUCTION_DETAILS.wf_details be archetypable?

2016-07-12 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Pablo, Since wf_details is ITEM_STRUCTURE, then yes it can be archetyped. Just because the AE doesn't support it does not change this fact. As is this case in many software projects, functionality in the AE was built on as needed basis so I would suggest that no one has needed it to date. Sin

RE: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-05 Thread Heath Frankel
phics and clinical. H From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Heath Frankel Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2016 7:04 PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions mailto:openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org>> Subject: RE: Alive vs Dead Heather, See ITEM_TREE.p

RE: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-05 Thread Heath Frankel
penehr.org] On Behalf Of Heath Frankel Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2016 6:37 PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions mailto:openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org>> Subject: RE: Alive vs Dead Heather, The fact that a person is deceased is already represented in demographic archetypes. Regards

RE: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Heath Frankel
Heather, The fact that a person is deceased is already represented in demographic archetypes. Regards Heath On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:20 PM -0800, "Heather Leslie" mailto:heather.les...@oceaninformatics.com>> wrote: Just talking it through further with Hugh. The notion of a patient being

Re: Archetype publication question - implications for implementers

2015-10-08 Thread Heath Frankel
mcnic...@openehr.org> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd. Director, HANDIHealth CIC Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL On 8 October 2015 at 10:23, Heath Frankel mailto:heath.fran...@oceaninformatics.com>> wrote: The existing versioning rules allow adding new concepts and ope

Re: Archetype publication question - implications for implementers

2015-10-08 Thread Heath Frankel
The existing versioning rules allow adding new concepts and opening constraints such as allowing additional units. These change the md5 hash but does require a version /id change. This is why Sebastian's suggestion technically works, the existing obsolete concept still exists and the new concep

RE: Archetype publication question - implications for implementers

2015-10-07 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Heather, Although I agree with the idea of obsolete concepts, I wonder if it is necessary in this case of Tilt. Why can’t we just add the additional units as allowed options leaving the existing degrees symbol but in the element description indicate that this is obsolete and the correct units

ACTION just as event trigger

2015-04-07 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi David, I haven't been involved in the instruction/action modelling recently but I know that this principle of having the same item structure archetype girl the activity and action was preferred in the early days, it has recently deviated for some archetypes at least as the information require

ACTION just as event trigger

2015-04-07 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Pablo, Actions are absolutely necessary and can carry different/additional information than the instruction. An instruction is actually useless without an action. It is the action that puts the action into a particular state at a particular time. When an instruction is created it should also

Finalising archetype meta-data

2014-11-20 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Thomas, I am not sure why we can't use other-details for all of these. It doesn't seem critical for processing archetypes, it is only for reference. Regards Heath On 21 Nov 2014, at 1:21 am, "Thomas Beale" mailto:thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com>> wrote: There is a test archetype here

Archetype Naming proposals - do we need V0?

2014-10-12 Thread Heath Frankel
I completely agree with this, The number one priority is that all existing clinical data using archetypes published in CKM for the last 2-5 years is not Invalidated by this process. I understand that it was use at your own risk but surely vendors that have taken the risk to be early adopters get

transfer/move archetype?

2014-09-07 Thread Heath Frankel
share this one at the ckm? While it would be easy for us to generate an archetype that fits our local needs, it might be worth to contribute this archetype as a starting point in the openEHR ckm to create something reusable. Best, Birger Am 05.09.2014 14:43, schrieb Heath Frankel: We use a pa

transfer/move archetype?

2014-09-05 Thread Heath Frankel
We use a patient location archetype in addition to a patient admission archetype so that we can track patient movement around the hospital as part of a hospital episode. Heath Original Message Subject: RE: transfer/move archetype? From: Dr Sa

Link between goals and other clinical concepts

2014-06-25 Thread Heath Frankel
I > suspect your requirements were a bit more complex. > > http://www.openehr.org/ckm/#showTemplate_1013.26.14 > > Ian > > Ian > >> On 25 June 2014 10:29, Heath Frankel >> wrote: >> Hi All, >> Based on our experience working with goals and targets in our Car

Link between goals and other clinical concepts

2014-06-25 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi All, Based on our experience working with goals and targets in our Care Planning system in Australia, the use of specialised Goals is not viable option from an implementation perspective. The specialisation I am talking about is a little different to what has been discussed so far as we were

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-13 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi all, I agree we need to try achieve Sam's desire for backward compatibility in release 2. This is no longer an academic exercise. By the end of the year we will have systems running with the potential of 4 million health records growing at 25000 compositions a day. To migrate this volume of data

International interoperability

2012-08-23 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Stefan, Are you aware of the NEHTA Pathology DCMs done in Australia. These should be close to going into CKM if not already, otherwise you may find in the NEHTA CKM. Heath On 23/08/2012 12:26 AM, "Stefan Sauermann" wrote: > Agree. > My preception is that the people in this community share a c

Revision of Instructions - clinical implications

2011-12-11 Thread Heath Frankel
Actually Jag, is not far from the truth. When you order a lab test you actually need an Instruction to define the lab test, and an action to put It into the ordered state. The request time of the lab test order is the time in the action with the ordered state. An instruction without an action

Questions about the necessity of ITEM_SINGLE

2011-10-11 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Sam, The problem with this is that we currently use the RM inheritance to assist in these structure constraints, i.e. an ITEM_LIST only contains a CLUSTER containing only ELEMENTs. However, if you think about it, the semantics of CLUSTER and ITEM_TREE are equivalent. It is only the level in t

Multiple values in C_DV_ORDINAL constraints

2011-09-28 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Heather, Good analysis. The key thing for me is how fluid these values are, will they change requiring an Archetype change? If so, then they shouldn't be modelled as an Ordinal and maintained externally. The other things is that when we using the term mappings, are we talking about the DV_TE

CCR model

2011-07-12 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Koray, In 2009 I did an IHE Medical Summary profile based Template for the Interoperability Demonstration at HIC. I can't recall the exact relationships between CCR, CCD and IHE Medical Summary profiles but they pretty much cover the same concepts. The template was only a subset of the Referra

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-04-27 Thread Heath Frankel
The problem is that ontologically v1 is not actually a version identifier, it is more like an axis of a concept ID, v1 and v2 have different concepts although they represent the same concept domain (i.e. two different representations of the same concept). The name of this axis is an unfortunate le

Archetype versioning on CKM

2011-04-27 Thread Heath Frankel
state of play but is more obvious. Regards Heath Heath Frankel Product Development Manager Ocean Informatics From: openehr-technical-boun...@openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 7:03 PM To: For

FW: Archetype & Template ANNOTATIONS - requirements?

2011-01-06 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Tom, I tend to agree with same that annotations are most likely to be localised and the need for language translations will be minimal, hence the need to support annotations with a code is overkill and too complex for the 90% of use cases. The only use case I have seen that would utilise

{Disarmed} RE: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} editor: no object orientation features

2009-06-29 Thread Heath Frankel
William, You can also use internal references from within archetypes, you define the structure once and then reference it from other places within the same Archetype. If you are working with the same structure across multiple archetypes then you should use slots. Remember the principle of arc

distributed development, governance and artefact identification for openEHR

2009-06-25 Thread Heath Frankel
Tom and Sam, > Page 11: > > Current text: > Archetypes based on different classes from the same information model > to > have the > same name, e.g. An archetype for 'vital signs' headings based on the > SECTION > class, and > a 'vital signs' archetype based on OBSERVATION. > > Comment: > I belie

Why is the editor not opening ADL files?

2009-03-16 Thread Heath Frankel
William, When you say "browsing existing archetypes from Ocean", where exactly are you browsing? Heath From: openehr-clinical-boun...@openehr.org [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Williamtfgoossen at cs.com Sent: Saturday, 14 March 2009 12:59 AM To: openehr-clin

Demographic archetypes

2009-01-19 Thread Heath Frankel
> -Original Message- > From: Heath Frankel [mailto:heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com] > Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 4:46 PM > To: 'For openEHR clinical discussions' > Subject: RE: Demographic archetypes > > Hi Daniel, > This is a bit hack but is a pot

Demographic archetypes

2009-01-19 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Daniel, This is a bit hack but is a potential work around for the lack of tooling support for demographics archetypes based on an approach I have been using where I am looking to store demographics within an EHR model. You can model your demographics archetypes in the Archetype Editor using

AW: AW: XML Focus Group for openehr

2008-09-16 Thread Heath Frankel
here are also open source Java components available. Regards ? Heath ? Heath Frankel Product Development Manager Ocean Informatics email:?heath.frankel at oceaninformatics.com

an archetype for a home-based device composition

2007-07-20 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew, The Report composition is used for laboratry reports where there is a request made resulting the report hence it has context about the request and report such as request ID, report ID, requesting provider etc. If there is a request for the monitoring observations then you could use the rep

CCR and openehr

2007-02-21 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew and William, > > For me encounter and medication list are definitely not archetypes: > > they differ too much in each circumstance, they are templates that > > will hold several to many archetypes. > > I don't understand the distinction you make here - archetypes > can hold other arche

CCR and openehr

2007-02-21 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew, > I was just asking from the point of view that, if it say > became mandatory (or even a selling point) in the US to > support CCR, how would you imagine it being supported in an > openehr system (as much as that would be a waste of the > features in openehr - sometimes you've gotta do

CCR and openehr

2007-02-21 Thread Heath Frankel
Brett, > I know what you are saying about RIM semantics but aren't the > openEHR RM classes, OBSERVATION, INSTRUCTION, EVALUATION, > etc. implying a general weak clinical semantic as a framework > for hanging stronger semantic archetyping. I can imply > certain things about a stored openEHR

CCR and openehr

2007-02-21 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew, > > Actually sections are purely organisational only, they do > not change > > the semantics of the entries inside them. > > I guess I disagree about the possibility (or usefulness) of > defining globally recognised archetypes as you go further up > the tree (towards organising arche

CCR and openehr

2007-02-21 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew, > > data structure defined by a particular organisation but has no true > > semantics in health, where as a discharge or referral is a > common concept. > > Well, not strictly true - the CCR has semantics that aren't > the same as discharge or referral but they are seemingly > clear

CCR and openehr

2007-02-21 Thread Heath Frankel
capability in the OceanEHR Tools and Application Components. Regards Heath Heath Frankel Product Development Manager Ocean Informatics ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at openehr.org http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew & Ogi, openEHR Templates are not Forms, they are aggregations of archetypes with further constraints. The scope of an openEHR template can be compared with a form but define the data structure of that form. However openEHR Templates can be used to drive the design and generation of forms a

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew, I understand the limitation of no specifications for templates. Archetypes are more than data structures, they are semantic structures. A CCR is a data structure defined by a particular organisation but has no true semantics in health, where as a discharge or referral is a common concept

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Heath Frankel
produce a CDAr2 equivalent of the openEHR composition for communication purposes, but of course you lose the advantages provided by openEHR. Regards Heath Heath Frankel Product Development Manager Ocean Informatics > -Original Message- > From: openehr-clinical-bounces at opene