[openhealth] Re: OSHCA conference 2007 follow-up discussion

2007-05-16 Thread mspohr
Dear Molly, It was very good to meet you in Cape Town. I'm sorry that I was not able to arrange to attend the OSHCA conference. This mailing list has been very quiet and I assume that it is because you are all busy at the conference. I was hoping that those of us who could not attend would have

[openhealth] Re: handheld linux device

2007-02-05 Thread mspohr
The Nokia N770 (or newer N800) are portable WiFi Linux based browser machines. Screen is 800x480. This would work for a browser based application. Palm and PPC each have WiFi/browser models (with smaller screens). /Mark --- In openhealth@yahoogroups.com, Will Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

[openhealth] Re: Open Source Software - PPO Networks & Cost Management

2007-01-16 Thread mspohr
Interesting idea. I can see how people without health insurance would use this "marketplace" but I don't understand how existing clients who are locked into a plan would use it. --- In openhealth@yahoogroups.com, "beancycler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, I am new to this group. I have

[openhealth] Re: Dossia

2006-12-13 Thread mspohr
The conference listed in the second Google blog is organized by the Markle Foundation. These are the same people who are organizing the Dossia omnimedix effort. I did some more research and it appears that the Dossia project is all open source. You can download the software from Regenstrief and

[openhealth] Re: Dossia

2006-12-13 Thread mspohr
They're a little fuzzy on data standards. They want to focus on interoperability and advocate for adopting existing standards They advocate for a "common framework" for data interchange using "any hardware and software". I would think they would need open standards and it could be supported b

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread mspohr
The copyright covers "expressions of ideas", not the ideas themselves. You can certainly reference the original "idea" (description) and create a new "expression". A "derivative work" includes some portion of the original verbatim and that should be avoided. The idea of the patient not being abl

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-11 Thread mspohr
an > "official" CPT code, then reimbursement would be denied by CMS, > even if you weren't sued by the AMA. If the descriptions didn't > match the AMA's then they would easily claim it wasn't "official". > > Dave > mspohr wrote: > >

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-11 Thread mspohr
Yes, your paraphrase is correct and it is an absurd situation. In the US we have a strong tradition of supporting "free enterprise". Unfortunately, this has been corrupted to mean "government granted monopolies to the private sector". This is established through our "free enterprise" election s

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-11 Thread mspohr
the government for use in medical billing. > This issue has already been the subject of litigation. > > http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f2000/2076.htm > > -FT > > On 12/11/06, mspohr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The codes would be the same as tho

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-11 Thread mspohr
om the payor that they > would accept those codes for reimbursement. Otherwise this > effort will be relatively useless. > > Dave > mspohr wrote: > > > > The goal of the CPT code project would be to create a version of > > procedure codes for use in billing i

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-11 Thread mspohr
The goal of the CPT code project would be to create a version of procedure codes for use in billing in the US that could be freely distributed. While it would be nice to fit this into an overarching ontology, this would introduce overhead which is not warranted. The CPT codes themselves are a dead

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-09 Thread mspohr
Copyright covers "expressions" of ideas and as such covers the AMA's descriptions. Theoretically, if you wrote different descriptions, they would not be covered by the AMA copyright. However, the AMA has been very aggressive in defending their monopoly on the codes so they might threaten a commun

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-09 Thread mspohr
The AMA CPT codes have a tortuous history and are currently in a legally ambiguous place supported by aggressive AMA lawyers. It is similar to the legally tenuous position of the RIAA that they can control what you can do with the music you have purchased. A short history. In testimony before co

[openhealth] Re: Open Source?

2006-12-02 Thread mspohr
Jason, I don't think any of the participants are enjoying this conversation. However, it is not mindless pedantic navel gazing. We are just trying to have a clear statement from Thomas and Ocean Informatics on the IP status of their software and archetypes. Unfortunately, the conversation is go

[openhealth] Re: Open Source?

2006-12-01 Thread mspohr
Thomas, I think most of us would agree that open health data standards are very important and I think we all share a great enthusiasm for promoting and using open standards. The issue with this prolonged discussion has been that many people are not clear on the definition of open source software an

[openhealth] Re: Open Source?

2006-11-30 Thread mspohr
wrote: > > mspohr wrote: > > Thomas, > > We don't want to argue about open source. We just want a clear > > statement from you. > > > > Is your software open source? > > > > If yes, then there should be a place where we can download the source

[openhealth] Re: Open Source?

2006-11-30 Thread mspohr
Thomas, We don't want to argue about open source. We just want a clear statement from you. Is your software open source? If yes, then there should be a place where we can download the source with a GPL type license. If no, then this is a proprietary system and you shouldn't make statements th

[openhealth] Re: Open Source?

2006-11-28 Thread mspohr
Thomas, Just a word of caution on "I don't want to get into arguments about Open Source"... It seems that you are asking for help in testing, debugging, and developing your software but you aren't willing to make this an open source project (at this time). Unfortunately, there is a history (especi

[openhealth] Re: GPs Revolt

2006-11-27 Thread mspohr
of disasters and forgetful patients (rare). /Mark --- In openhealth@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Beale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > mspohr wrote: > > > > Simple open systems and open communications standards have the best > > chance of success. > >

[openhealth] Re: GPs Revolt

2006-11-26 Thread mspohr
I find Dr. Grove's approach interesting. He focuses on the "keep is simple" (KISS) principle and is rightly worried about huge spending on unproven information systems. He also proposes the widespread deployment of simple "walk-in" clinics to lower the cost and improve access to medical care. The