Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
Support for configuring NWAM via SMF properties doesn't exist. And the Install team would prefer to not have to understand the details of an NWAM profile to create one themselves. Sorry but that comment alone is grounds for derailing the case. There is an existing "profile" based architecture

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread sowmini . varadhan
On (05/12/10 22:52), Girish Moodalbail wrote: > > If the daemon associated with the ip-interface-management service is used to > configure above addresses on zone boot and address object names were not > explicitly provided then an address object name will be generated for that > address by

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Haywood
Darren J Moffat wrote: Support for configuring NWAM via SMF properties doesn't exist. And the Install team would prefer to not have to understand the details of an NWAM profile to create one themselves. Sorry but that comment alone is grounds for derailing the case. There is an existing "pro

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Haywood
Darren Kenny wrote: On 05/13/10 02:33 AM, Mark Haywood wrote: ... No. I don't consider it an error. It is true that this service will install a network configuration that will likely be ignored if NWAM is enabled or enabled at some later point. But it would still serve as the original conif

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Haywood
Darren J Moffat wrote: Support for configuring NWAM via SMF properties doesn't exist. And the Install team would prefer to not have to understand the details of an NWAM profile to create one themselves. Sorry but that comment alone is grounds for derailing the case. There is an existing "pro

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
With Mark's clarification I'm comfortable with this continuing as a fast-track for now. I share the concern about NIS and LDAP not being covered but I don't see that the architecture of this case precludes equivalent services for those being added (if anything it sets precedence for how to do

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Liane Praza
On 05/12/10 16:37, Mark Haywood wrote: Liane Praza wrote: On 05/12/10 12:51 PM, Edward Pilatowicz wrote: some quick questions. how does this functionality interact with different network management services, specifically network/physical:nwam and network/physical:default? is network configurat

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Haywood
Liane Praza wrote: On 05/12/10 16:37, Mark Haywood wrote: Liane Praza wrote: On 05/12/10 12:51 PM, Edward Pilatowicz wrote: some quick questions. how does this functionality interact with different network management services, specifically network/physical:nwam and network/physical:default? i

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Girish Moodalbail
On 05/13/10 05:08 AM, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: On (05/12/10 22:52), Girish Moodalbail wrote: If the daemon associated with the ip-interface-management service is used to configure above addresses on zone boot and address object names were not explicitly provided then an address

GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Rich Burridge
I'm sponsoring this case for John Sonnenschein. A patch release binding is requested. The proposal.txt is attached. See the case directory for the rest of the materials. 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: GNU coreutils 8.5 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Alan Coopersmith
> Between 7.4 and 8.5, the following new command was introduced: > > /usr/bin/ > nproc >Location Uncommitted >Invocation Uncommitted >Human-readable output

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread sowmini . varadhan
On (05/13/10 08:52), Girish Moodalbail wrote: > > ipadm(1M) is going to be new ifconfig(1M) and should be used to manage > addresses and IP interfaces, going forward. To manage addresses using > ipadm(1M), they need to have clearly defined names (either user provided or > daemon generated),

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Girish Moodalbail
On 05/13/10 09:17 AM, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: On (05/13/10 08:52), Girish Moodalbail wrote: ipadm(1M) is going to be new ifconfig(1M) and should be used to manage addresses and IP interfaces, going forward. To manage addresses using ipadm(1M), they need to have clearly defined

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread sowmini . varadhan
On (05/13/10 09:33), Girish Moodalbail wrote: > > That is not true. we digress, but.. > > # ifconfig ce1 plumb > # ifconfig ce1 192.168.17.1/24 up > # ipadm show-addr > ADDROBJ TYPE STATEADDR > lo0/v4static ok 127.0.0.1/8 > ce1/_a

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 05/12/10 05:17 PM, Darren Reed wrote: There seems to be a lot of questions about the details on this case, as one of the few remaining PSARC members, There are fifteen PSARC members, twelve of which are currently active (meaning not on sabbatical), but that's beside the point. does this

Re: interfaces for basic install network configuration [PSARC/2010/164 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Sebastien Roy
I'm changing the status of this case to "waiting need spec" while the project team and other interested parties hold offline discussions on the specifics of this case and its greater context. Thanks to those who reviewed this case and provided constructive input. Please hold further comments

Re: Unified sharing system call [PSARC/2010/154 FastTrack timeout 05/11/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Tim Haley
This case received a +1 and has timed out. I have marked it approved. -tim ___ opensolaris-arc mailing list opensolaris-arc@opensolaris.org

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 13/05/2010 15:19, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Between 7.4 and 8.5, the following new command was introduced: /usr/bin/ nproc Location Uncommitted Invocation Uncommitted

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread John Sonnenschein
On 2010-05-13, at 7:19 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>Between 7.4 and 8.5, the following new command was introduced: >> >>/usr/bin/ >>nproc >> Location Uncommitted >> Invocation Uncom

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread John Sonnenschein
nproc uses sysconf(3M) for determining the number of processors on Solaris which means that zones with CPU pools will see the number in the pool, rather than the number in the machine. It may be worthwhile updating the documentation to reflect this, but then again sysconf(3C) itself is not docu

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread ольга крыжановская
AFAIK scripts should use getconf tags NPROCESSORS_CONF, NPROCESSORS_MAX or NPROCESSORS_ONLN (or just NPROCESSORS_ONLN because it describes the number of currently online cores) to determinate the number of processors it can use. This works on almost all platforms (Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD) and withi

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 13/05/2010 17:00, John Sonnenschein wrote: nproc uses sysconf(3M) for determining the number of processors on Solaris which means that zones with CPU pools will see the number in the pool, rather than the number in the machine. That is the answer I was hoping for, I was a little worried it

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 13/05/2010 17:18, ольга крыжановская wrote: AFAIK scripts should use getconf tags NPROCESSORS_CONF, NPROCESSORS_MAX or NPROCESSORS_ONLN (or just NPROCESSORS_ONLN because it describes the number of currently online cores) to determinate the number of processors it can use. This works on almost

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread ольга крыжановская
Solaris /usr/bin/**/getconf have a couple of bugs, that's just an old one you're hitting. nproc is in the coreutils package because getconf is part of glibc and not of coreutils and the coreutils authors have already stated their disapproval for the getconf interface. I'd expect that each time get

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 13/05/2010 17:34, ольга крыжановская wrote: Solaris /usr/bin/**/getconf have a couple of bugs, that's just an old one you're hitting. nproc is in the coreutils package because getconf is part of glibc and not of coreutils and the coreutils authors have already stated their disapproval for the

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread ольга крыжановская
No, it shouldn't impact the outcome of this case. I explained where nproc came from. It also has an impact on script portability because nproc is completely non standard (the lack of getconf on old platforms and the buggies of getconf implementations like Solaris getconf is the reason why ksh93 has

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 13/05/2010 17:47, ольга крыжановская wrote: No, it shouldn't impact the outcome of this case. I explained where nproc came from. It also has an impact on script portability because nproc is completely non standard (the lack of getconf on old platforms and the buggies of getconf implementations

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Chris Pickett
2010/5/13 Darren J Moffat : > On 13/05/2010 17:47, ольга крыжановская wrote: >> >> No, it shouldn't impact the outcome of this case. >> I explained where nproc came from. It also has an impact on script >> portability because nproc is completely non standard (the lack of >> getconf on old platforms

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread John Sonnenschein
I fail to see how any of this is relevant to this case. The stability level of nproc is "unstable" and interfaces work on Solaris, which is the only platform we're concerned with. If an end user is comfortable using an interface which is disclosed as unstable, and does the due diligence to se

Re: GNU coreutils 8.5 [PSARC/2010/170 FastTrack timeout 05/20/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Rich Burridge
On 05/13/10 08:19, John Sonnenschein wrote: On 2010-05-13, at 7:19 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Between 7.4 and 8.5, the following new command was introduced: /usr/bin/ nproc Location Uncommitted

Re: SMF networking type extensions [PSARC/2010/157 FastTrack timeout 05/12/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Antonello Cruz
On 05/12/10 04:12 PM, Liane Praza wrote: This case times out today, has received its +1, and discussion seems to have closed. I'm marking it closed approved. liane Thanks Liane! I attached the final diff for the manpage, to include in the case materials. Antonello --- scf_value_create.3scf.ol

Re: new socket options for TCP timers [PSARC/2010/151 FastTrack timeout 05/10/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 05/12/10 11:26 AM, Kacheong Poon wrote: Attached please find the updated specification of this case. I've incorporated the comments suggested in the discussion. Note that this case timed out a few days ago and it has not yet received a +1. This is a reminder to members that this spec needs

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Edward Pilatowicz
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 07:23:13PM -0700, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: > > - this bit seems odd to me: > > > > ---8<--- > > ... Note that IPv4 > > and IPv6 are considered as independent resources, so that > > specification of an IPv4 address via zonecfg(1m) does not place any > > constraints

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread sowmini . varadhan
On (05/13/10 13:25), Edward Pilatowicz wrote: > > Currently, none, though the "only ipv4 specified implies ipv6-addrs > > are forbidden" approach solves that. In retrospect, that choices > > seems simpler and cleaner. Is that preferable? > > > > i think so. Ok, I'll send out an updated spec (t

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Edward Pilatowicz
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 01:29:20PM -0700, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: > > > > - can exclusive stack zones manipulate mac addresses on network > > > > interfaces? > > > > > > yes- they can use 'ifconfig .. ether <..>'. > > > .. the address property only clamps dow the IP address, > > > an

Re: Renaming interrupt affinity interfaces [PSARC/2010/172 FastTrack timeout 05/20/10]

2010-05-13 Thread Garrett D'Amore
+1. I always felt the interfaces were not really appropriate for generic drivers to use. - Garrett On 05/13/10 03:19 PM, Govinda Tatti wrote: I'm sponsoring the following fasttrack for Evan Yan. The timer is set to expire on 05/20/2010. - Govinda Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren Reed
On 13/05/10 01:29 PM, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: On (05/13/10 13:25), Edward Pilatowicz wrote: Currently, none, though the "only ipv4 specified implies ipv6-addrs are forbidden" approach solves that. In retrospect, that choices seems simpler and cleaner. Is that preferable? i think

OpenSolaris ARC Agenda - May 19, 2010

2010-05-13 Thread Asa Romberger
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Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Edward Pilatowicz
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 04:10:05PM -0700, Darren Reed wrote: > On 13/05/10 01:29 PM, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: > >On (05/13/10 13:25), Edward Pilatowicz wrote: > >>>Currently, none, though the "only ipv4 specified implies ipv6-addrs > >>>are forbidden" approach solves that. In retrospect

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Sebastien Roy
On 05/13/10 07:32 PM, Edward Pilatowicz wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 04:10:05PM -0700, Darren Reed wrote: On 13/05/10 01:29 PM, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: Rishi Srivatsavai is looking into the work entailed to have mac-nospoof enabled for NGZ by default.. just talked to Rishi, and I t

Re: layer-3 net properties for exclusive-IP zones [PSARC/2010/166 FastTrack timeout 05/19/2010]

2010-05-13 Thread Darren Reed
On 13/05/10 04:32 PM, Edward Pilatowicz wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 04:10:05PM -0700, Darren Reed wrote: On 13/05/10 01:29 PM, sowmini.varad...@oracle.com wrote: On (05/13/10 13:25), Edward Pilatowicz wrote: Currently, none, though the "only ipv4 specified implies ipv6-addrs are forbidden"