[osol-discuss] LinuxWorld BoF Booth this week

2005-08-08 Thread Dan Price
Hi Everyone, Sun has a booth at LinuxWorld SF this week, and several of us will be there representing OpenSolaris. I plan to be there Monday afternoon and most of Tuesday with my laptop running the latest bits. I noted from his blog that Ben Rockwood will also be in attendance representing

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: fcinfo libHBAAPI

2005-08-08 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello John, Saturday, August 6, 2005, 1:11:58 AM, you wrote: JF Hi Robert, JF fcinfo will be released along with a few other storage drivers, fibre channel and iscsi to name a couple, sometime in the next 4 months. Sorry that I can't be more specific at the moment. JF You may already be

[osol-discuss] Location of the developer's reference guide is not obvious for a new comer

2005-08-08 Thread Nickolay Dalmatov
Hello! Once I first come to the site it takes some efforts for me to find a location of the documentation, which is appropriate for the very beginner (it is the Quick Start chapter of Developer's Reference Guide). I think it would be really helpful for the people who are new to the Open Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread Albert White
Hi, TJ Yang wrote: I read albertw's blog but I failed to understand how to use Solaris' patch management system to be a modern PMS for OpenSoalris. I would advocate the use of patches for updating packages. But I would be very interested in seeing the things that people don't like about

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 8/8/05, Albert White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most of this email snipped If a consensus develops among the distributions to go with a particular high level management system then thats great. But its a separate discussion from whether to use the SVR4 package architecture. Cheers,

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement

2005-08-08 Thread TJ Yang
Hi, TJ Yang wrote: I read albertw's blog but I failed to understand how to use Solaris' patch management system to be a modern PMS for OpenSoalris. I would advocate the use of patches for updating packages. But I would be very interested in seeing the things that people

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement

2005-08-08 Thread TJ Yang
snip I just want to chime in here to let people know that I have been watching and reading with considerable interest. I think that a few steps need to be taken with Blastwave and after some thought I am going to make a few changes. As soon as I have something concrete to talk about I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bob Palowoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. If we look at the roadmap the install and admin tools are scheduled for next year around April/May timeframe. It's proably better to hold off until than until the patch management can architectually include those stable interfaces.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How would the ARC process look at this discussion of KSH 88-vs-93?

2005-08-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Why do you believe this? ksh88 vs ksh93 deltas are described as features or improvements by the ksh93 maintainer. ksh88 vs pdksh deltas are described as bugs by the pdksh maintainer. Why do you believe that pdksh makes less

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 8/8/05, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Palowoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. If we look at the roadmap the install and admin tools are scheduled for next year around April/May timeframe. It's proably better to hold off until than until the patch management

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 8/8/05, Matt Ingenthron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a recent services engagement with a customer, one of the admins was vi challenged. He was used to Linux where pico was found on many systems. I helped him get pkg-get on the Solaris 10 system and proceeded to pkg-get pine, which

[osol-discuss] Re: Laptop Video - ATI Radeon Xpress 200M 1280x800

2005-08-08 Thread Jason Fiset
I tried both options but all I got was either a garbled screen with only the MonitorLayout option or a blank screen when I tried to set the PanelSize. The garbled screen looks like it has multiple login screens that are being displayed at various offsets. I did get pictures with my digital

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Laptop Video - ATI Radeon Xpress 200M 1280x800

2005-08-08 Thread Casper . Dik
I tried both options but all I got was either a garbled screen with only the MonitorLayout option or a blank screen when I tried to set the PanelSize. Did you try both and what was in the log? My Ferrari 4000 requires both PanelSize and MonitorLayout to be set before it even displays

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Laptop Video - ATI Radeon Xpress 200M 1280x800

2005-08-08 Thread Jason Fiset
I have three video outputs on mine: Panel/VGA/S-Video I tried connecting an external monitor to the laptop and here is what I get - no video on the screen either - I removed the MonitorLayout and PanelSize options from the config before running: (II) RADEON(0): LVDS port is not in connector

Re: [osol-discuss] Location of the developer's reference guide is not obvious for a new comer

2005-08-08 Thread Virginia Wray
Hi Nickolay - I'm a member of the documentation community. I'm working with others to develop the documentation presence on the OpenSolaris site. I think this is great feedback I am in the process of creating an index for the documentation that is scattered around the web site and as you

Re: [osol-discuss] Binary model taxonomies: Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 8, 2005, at 11:26 AM, John Plocher wrote: As a result, Sun has developed a binary model (and here I do not mean proprietary) that puts a premium on allowing things to maintain compatibility - at a binary interface/API level - over time and over release cycles. Er, no offense, but

[osol-discuss] Reminder: 1st Colorado Front Range OpenSolaris User Group - 8/11/2005

2005-08-08 Thread Lisa Week
Hello, Just as a reminder, the first meeting of the Front Range OpenSolaris User Group is this Thursday! Here's the information: An OpenSolaris User Group is being formed in Colorado with the goal of sharing information and promoting discussion on interesting technical topics related to

Re: [osol-discuss] Binary model taxonomies: Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread John Plocher
Roy T. Fielding wrote: Er, no offense, None taken. Note that I wasn't saying that the installer (person) would never wish to be able to perform developer tasks like building from source to produce an installation. I agree that the ability to build everything is important - to developers and

Re: [osol-discuss] Binary model taxonomies: Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-08 Thread Alan Coopersmith
John Plocher wrote: I also wasn't saying that source based systems don't have the concept of an ABI. Rather, I was saying that, in general[1], processes based on the presumption of build the entire system tend to not detect changes that are source level compatible but still result in binary

[osol-discuss] SunRay open source?

2005-08-08 Thread Snit Mo
Hi, Have SunRay source code (SRSS and firmware) been open-sourced? I have been looking, but have not found it. Is there a plan to do this? Thank you, This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] SunRay open source?

2005-08-08 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Snit Mo wrote: Have SunRay source code (SRSS and firmware) been open-sourced? No. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

[osol-discuss] Re: Binary model taxonomies: Re: Can we start

2005-08-08 Thread TJ Yang
snip This is actually one of the big reasons the X.Org open source community is moving from a model of building the entire X Window System as one big source tree to a modular model, where each library, program, and driver module is individually built, to make it easier to catch API ABI