Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/29/06, Tatjana S Heuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:> Then the alternative is for SUN to get 10 engineers, and get them to> work on an existing opensource project to bring it up to standard or> create an in house version based off licencing specifications. I'm very much in

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/29/06, John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:34:33PM +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:> When I tried to compile I specified using the GNU ld and as - would> that have made a difference? but it still doesn't explain why qt Specified how? --with-gnu-as doesn't do what you

Re: [osol-discuss] Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/29/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On Friday 26 May 2006 02:47 pm, Joerg Schilling wrote:> > I do this since more than three years on every fair where I see an Adobe > > both. I don't understand their behavior.>> Well, do you know that Mac

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/29/06, Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 28 May 2006, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:> Then the alternative is for SUN to get 10 engineers, and get them> to work on an existing opensource project to bring it up to> standard or create an in house version based off licencing > specifications.

Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/29/06, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote:>> Well .. that is desktop really.  Domino is a server thing. Perhaps we can come up with a list here of applications that were once>> supported on both architectures of Solaris and have vanished.  Let's also >> include

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris Device Naming" (a.k.a Devname)

2006-05-28 Thread Lucy Lai
--- Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 20:55, Yonghong Lucy Lai > wrote: > > > I can't see any need to mess with physical > names.) > > I agree with you about the information offered in > the WWN itself, and > > I do not expect that information to go away from > the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread James Carlson
Stephen Potter writes: > > To a new Solaris user that comes from other OS, (s)he may > > find it bothersome not to find the device after a normal system > > reboot has performed. Then they will ask, "what is the problem > > with Solaris?" > > I agree, if there is a way for the guru to turn off au

Re: [osol-discuss] GCC 4.1.1 on OpenSolaris

2006-05-28 Thread James Carlson
Bob Palowoda writes: > By the definition of support of /usr/sfw/bin/gcc does the version changes > stop at this version or where the changes from build 3.4.4/5/6 integrated > into the current build? No. > Would there be an adventage of removing gcc from /usr/sfw and replacing > it with the Sun

Re: [osol-discuss] console font

2006-05-28 Thread Riny Qian
Philip Brown wrote: bahahaha Im reviewing changes to vgatext since my hacks, and was amused to find the following: if (happyface_boot == 0) It is an undocumented experimental functionality for graphics boot. Please see Jan's blog about it at http://blogs.sun.com/setje (Faster seamless

Re: [osol-discuss] console font

2006-05-28 Thread Riny Qian
Philip Brown wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 02:36:49PM +0800, Riny Qian wrote: sure, if you're willing to recompile the vgatext driver. ;) Then you can also change the console window size from 25x80 to others. This seems a good opensolaris project :-) I'm too lazy to see if vgatext and

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Paul Jakma
On Sun, 28 May 2006, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Then the alternative is for SUN to get 10 engineers, and get them to work on an existing opensource project to bring it up to standard or create an in house version based off licencing specifications. # which ggv /usr/bin/ggv already there. Thoug

Re: [osol-discuss] Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Paul Jakma
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: Out of curiosity where do we stand with Adobe Acrobat Reader for Solaris x86? On a regular JDS session I can bring up Mozilla and hit some page that suggests that I get the Adobe Acrobat plugin. I wish we would ship a native GNOME browser (ie epiphan

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Weekly News #13

2006-05-28 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey all, Another short summary this week - I guess everyone was canvassing outside the Adobe offices after this weeks big thread to port their PDF viewer to Solaris ;) Glynn == Moinak Ghosh announced [1] that BelaniX 0.4.3a was now available, one of the first OpenSolaris distributions to i

[osol-discuss] Install problems on SXCR build 40

2006-05-28 Thread Andrew Pattison
I've got a wierd problem trying to install SXCR build 40 on my spare PC. I get the following messages on boot, just after "Configuring devices...": WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ata1): timeout: abort request, target=0 lun-0 WARNING: timeout:

Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Well .. that is desktop really. Domino is a server thing. >> >> Perhaps we can come up with a list here of applications that were once >> supported on both architectures of Solaris and have vanished. Let's also >> include new apps that never were supported but could be.

Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread Paul Gress
Dennis Clarke wrote: Well .. that is desktop really. Domino is a server thing. Perhaps we can come up with a list here of applications that were once supported on both architectures of Solaris and have vanished. Let's also include new apps that never were supported but could be. This is just

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dev Mazumdar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, since Sun has kissed and made up with Microsoft, they should tell > Adobe, > give us acrobat for Solaris x86 or we're going to work with MS. > > I bet you, if you talk to Adobe, they'll say we have no resources to port. > How big are they? How

[osol-discuss] iSCSI initiator with a Linux Target?

2006-05-28 Thread Tim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I have some target2 defined on a Linux host. I have connect to them just fine via a Linux client. I am trying to connect to a target from my OpenSolaris {brandz}. I am using the iscsiadm tool. I have done the following: iscsiadm modify di

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Doug Scott
> Besides, be careful; there are worse folks than > Adobe. Isn't MS introducing > a new format that they want to replace PDF with? The funny thing about that would be that Sun would a better chance getting Microsoft come to the party than Adobe. Now that says something out Abobe. This message

[osol-discuss] Software for Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
I dropped the "(was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)" from the subject line and just decided that a general purpose discussion may be of value. Even if all we do is talk and achieve nothing. > On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 03:49 -0700, ken mays wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Seems like the previous post from

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Dev Mazumdar
> Cute little bunny rabbits make nice lining for winter > gloves. > > Besides, be careful; there are worse folks than > Adobe. Isn't MS introducing > a new format that they want to replace PDF with? Actually, since Sun has kissed and made up with Microsoft, they should tell Adobe, give us acrob

[osol-discuss] Resolver is sleeping

2006-05-28 Thread Ron Halstead
In nv39 and nv40, the resolver is taking a long time to resolve the address of a host via DNS and /etc/hosts. Truss ping sol10 (in /etc/hosts) shows the process sleeping. The truss output is 149 lines. I can include all of it. I've snipped around the sleepy part. Any ideas. open64("/var/run/nam

Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-28 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 03:49 -0700, ken mays wrote: > Hello, > > Seems like the previous post from Matty mentions more > of the 'commercial' applications moreso than the open > source ones. > > This is more of a developer support stance from the > corporate 'commercial' ISVs/IHVs. Getting Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Rich Teer
On Sun, 28 May 2006, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > > Cheers. (from the patio at my parent's house using VPN over wifi;-) > > Which is nice, but the fact is, thats server software - I'm refering > to workstation software. Exactly how is wifi "server software"? > Sure, I can advocate Solaris as a grea

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Tatjana S Heuser
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > Then the alternative is for SUN to get 10 engineers, and get them to > work on an existing opensource project to bring it up to standard or > create an in house version based off licencing specifications. I'm very much in favour of this solution - like many others who jus

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread Stephen Potter
> To a new Solaris user that comes from other OS, (s)he may > find it bothersome not to find the device after a normal system > reboot has performed. Then they will ask, "what is the problem > with Solaris?" I agree, if there is a way for the guru to turn off auto-reconfig when they want. This

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-28 Thread Stephen Potter
> I have to say that WAN Boot to most people looks like it is missing > things but it does do what it was originally designed to do, > unfortunately that makes it not quite suitable for everyone. The concept of WANboot is very useful in a large distributed environment like mine. Due to the way

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread John Levon
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:34:33PM +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > When I tried to compile I specified using the GNU ld and as - would > that have made a difference? but it still doesn't explain why qt Specified how? --with-gnu-as doesn't do what you might think it does... regards john _

Re: [osol-discuss] Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 02:47 pm, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > I do this since more than three years on every fair where I see an Adobe > > both. I don't understand their behavior. > > Well, do you know that Mac almost lost support for AcroRead just prior to >

Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-28 Thread ken mays
Hello, Seems like the previous post from Matty mentions more of the 'commercial' applications moreso than the open source ones. This is more of a developer support stance from the corporate 'commercial' ISVs/IHVs. Getting Solaris into the hands of the right commercial developers, supporting those

Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-28 Thread Alberto Escudero Pascual
Hi Kaiwai et al, If you want to see software for Solaris x86/x64 you should consider having a look to NexentaOS http://www.gnusolaris.org Erast and Alex are working really hard to build all software using GCC. 9000+ packages now... I must confess that i started to build/patching/porting OpenOffic

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Moazam Raja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On May 28, 2006, at 12:09 AM, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > Whats the status of your UltraSPARC workstation line? > is there going > to be a successor to the Blade 150? Sun Ultra 45. If you want something cheaper, the Opteron based Ultra 20 is great

[osol-discuss] GCC 4.1.1 on OpenSolaris

2006-05-28 Thread Bob Palowoda
As you all know the GCC team has released as of May 26 the GCC 4.1.1 compiler suite. With respect to build 37 of Nevada the gcc version is 3.4.3 which might be a little dated from the 3.4.6 build from the gcc.gnu.org site. Thank you all the engineers that did bug fixes for opensolaris to comp

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Ian Collins
Wes Williams wrote: >>An older version (4?) of Acrobat Reader is available >>for SOlaris x86, >>but you need to get it via Adobe's FTP site IIRC. I >>have a copy here, >>but I doubt I'm allowed to redistribute it... >> >>Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member >> >> >> > >Likewise, I've

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Moazam Raja
To get better support (especially without a support contract), one must ask better questions. If you ask an open ended 'large' question ("Where is X headed in the marketplace?"), you may not get an answer as the discussion may be very subjective. In terms of technical questions/support, I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread David J. Orman
On May 27, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Explain? Explanation follows below: Me: "hey, here are some issues I have with Solaris" SUN Employees: "Its YOU with the problem" Getting technical support from SUN must be a dream, "oh, this is a problem I'm experiencing...", rep

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Moazam Raja
On May 28, 2006, at 12:09 AM, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:Whats the status of your UltraSPARC workstation line? is there going to be a successor to the Blade 150? Sun Ultra 45. If you want something cheaper, the Opteron based Ultra 20 is great. And if you want something cheaper but must have UltraSparc,

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > > > So unfortunately I've migrated back to FreeBSD (again) - I would > really love to run Solaris x86, but when everything I try to compile > turns to shyte, one really has to ask whether the maintainers of the > source

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:41 pm, Ian Collins wrote: > I wasn't sure whether this was just more of your inflammatory nonsense, > so I had a look: Matty has proven to be a case study on trollology on several occasions, thanks for the reminder.;-)

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:53 pm, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > As for the last 5 years - name 5 high profile, main stream, software > titles that have come to Solaris x86 - not drivers like OSS, or > plugins like Flash/Shockwave or Real, but applicat

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Paul Gress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > > As for the last 5 years - name 5 high profile, main stream, software > titles that have come to Solaris x86 - not drivers like OSS, or > plugins like Flash/Shockwave or Real, but application suites like > MYOB, Peachtree

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either that, or launch a spear campaign that equates > Adobe to killing > cute little bunny rabbits. Cute little bunny rabbits make nice lining for winter gloves. Besides, be careful; there are worse folks than Adobe. Isn't MS introd

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:41 pm, Ian Collins wrote: > I wasn't sure whether this was just more of your inflammatory nonsense, > so I had a look: Matty has proven to be a case study on trollology on several occasions, thanks for the reminder.;-) -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 En

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Paul Gress
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: As for the last 5 years - name 5 high profile, main stream, software titles that have come to Solaris x86 - not drivers like OSS, or plugins like Flash/Shockwave or Real, but application suites like MYOB, Peachtree accounting etc. etc. Gee, I'm using PTC Pro-Engineer on

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:53 pm, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > As for the last 5 years - name 5 high profile, main stream, software > titles that have come to Solaris x86 - not drivers like OSS, or > plugins like Flash/Shockwave or Real, but application suites like > MYOB, Peachtree accounting etc. etc

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Either that, or launch a spear campaign that equates > Adobe to killing > cute little bunny rabbits. Cute little bunny rabbits make nice lining for winter gloves. Besides, be careful; there are worse folks than Adobe. Isn't MS introducing a new format that they want to replace PDF with? Th

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:33 pm, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > Well, all things being considered, this mailing list is nothing more > than a glorified parlour game of people throwing their 5 cents worth > in, and venting their frustration. Well, we

[osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-28 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/28/06, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > > > So unfortunately I've migrated back to FreeBSD (again) - I would > really love to run Solaris x86, but when everything I try to compile > turns to shyte, one really has to ask whether the maintainers of the > source