Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread duboff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: Wonderful. I await the day when Solaris techs will be numerous as MCSEs and LPI guys, Solaris professionals as many as RHCEs and (Open) Solaris is something that a user knows. I await the day that you'll actually install

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Latest opensolaris VMware image

2007-04-10 Thread Alfred Peng
Hi Atul, There should be four VM images for download. Three are Solaris 10, and the last one is the latest release: Solaris Express, Developer Edition which is an OpenSolaris based distro. -Alfred Atul Vidwansa wrote: Never mind. I got the images at

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
I await the day that you'll actually install Solaris/OpenSolaris. Alan, maybe Nexenta is not quite considered Open Solaris but I had that installed and updated to 'elatte' with the b55 kernel/ON but then I had to wipe it out with Solaris Express b59 to get the latest iscsi-target code that is

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: Alan, maybe Nexenta is not quite considered Open Solaris but I had that installed and updated to 'elatte' with the b55 kernel/ON but then I had to wipe it out with Solaris Express b59 to get the latest iscsi-target code that is supposed to

Re: [osol-discuss] How dose a nexus driver look for its child devices?

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Durrant
On 4/6/07, Yang Mingshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a jackaroo on Solaris. And the problem puzzles me. There is such a sentence in an article:Those devices which have other devices attached to them (typically via a bus) use nexus drivers. Then, for the nexus drivers(for example SCSI HBA

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: regarding hardware raid...when will 3ware come to Solaris? Are those guys not at all interested? I've just sent a message to the product manager and am trying to get him to come over here and possibly create a community for 3ware. Do

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: Great, made your day then. Not really, I use Solaris/OpenSolaris as my primary operating system. Heh, i'd love to get centos 4 off my home box. i guess i will just look out for a cheapo

[osol-discuss] Re: Erreur de syntaxe avec IPNAT:co mplément

2007-04-10 Thread maurice
Le pb est toujours la connexion à internet. Sur le net j'ai trouvé un excellent article sur le sujet à l'adresse www.phildev.net/solaris/spppoe.html. J'ai donc créé une interface sppp0, ensuite j'ai essayé de l'utiliser avec un ping (ping www.yahoo.fr) qui me répond : adresse inconnue. Dans

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Fresh Install Problems

2007-04-10 Thread Calum Benson
On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 09:52 -0700, Rich Teer wrote: By my reckonging, Solaris 10 installs ask more questions than before (e.g., NFSv4 domain, etc.), and yet S10 has the greatest take up of any version of Solaris in SUn's history, by a long shot. True, but those adopters still consistently

[osol-discuss] Zone Stability (Crash of Global Zone?)

2007-04-10 Thread Grady Parks
First let me apologize if this question has been asked before. I could not find any references and I am pretty new to the OpenSolaris Boards. I don't have as much experience with Solaris as I do with AIX and HP/UX so my question may be elementry. My question is in reference to Solaris Zone

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Doug Scott
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: I guess in this regard the installers available are better on Linux since they support installing on raid arrays and when they did not such as in the RH9 days, you could still hit the console during the partitioning section and manually create what raid arrays

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_61 system/webconsole:console failed fatally

2007-04-10 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 07:08:40PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: anyone else seen this on snv_61 ? # Apr 7 19:06:53 mercury svc.startd[7]: system/webconsole:console failed fatally: transitioned to maintenance (see 'svcs -xv' for details) Yes. Haven't had time to look for an existing bug yet.

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Shawn Walker
On 10/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plugging in card, turning on box and then plugging in the sata drives and running cfgadm twice and then a zpool command without any 'echo magic /proc/scsi' as you do on Linux was a really nice experience. At least

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_61 system/webconsole:console failed fatally

2007-04-10 Thread Suraj Verma
If you are still stuck, and feel eager, you could modify the script /lib/svc/method/svc-webconsole by adding some debug messages, and run it manually from command prompt. #/lib/svc/method/svc-webconsole start and see where it is failing. Its a simple script and you will need to debug the

[osol-discuss] Re: Zone Stability (Crash of Global Zone?)

2007-04-10 Thread Grady Parks
Adding in case someone else has a similar question. (1) If the root (global) zone goes - They all go! (2) It is almost essential that you setup multipathing and redundancy to the host zone. Everything else will be transparent to the hosted zones so you would not have to have anything

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: No dist-upgrade this. So why do we have a monthly CD release instead of a monthly kernel package(s) release? Because the development release procedure was originally designed when all the people using them were in a few buildings with high bandwidth

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
Oh, FYI, there are a lot of companies/admins out there that do not subscribe to Redhat support. If Sun Microsystems has no interest in this field then I guess the whole packaging/server maintenance for Open Solaris is a moot point and I would be sorry that I raised this point here.

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-10 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: No dist-upgrade this. So why do we have a monthly CD release instead of a monthly kernel package(s) release? Because the development release procedure was originally designed when all the people using

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread duboff
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, James Carlson wrote: Not all things in Solaris are under the CDDL. Only the things that Sun has licensed under CDDL are marked that way. Some things have different owners who've given different licenses. Seems that having the license in the man page would be helpful,

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread duboff
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, James Carlson wrote: The issues are complex, and there are notable exceptions, but in general, I suspect the licenses are not meaningful for people who need to know how to use the system. I am not sure why they would be so complex. Seems the man pages pertain to each

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread duboff
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, James Carlson wrote: The issues are complex, and there are notable exceptions So I see: (just to list a few) bash GFDL hgignore hgrc pdfimages gzip gzcat xine-config zip libfontconfig I really don't like finding ersatz advertising in the documentation. Is there any

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-10 Thread a b
hold on a sec ... http://www.blastwave.org/docs/step-063.html That thing there is my principal sin ? What if I were to back up a few steps to here : http://www.blastwave.org/docs/step-061.html Then I diverge the path into two alternate methods for setting up the disk.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-10 Thread a b
Was that intended as a joke? I'm sure it was. Static linking introduces horrors that are far harder to solve than any of the issues I mentioned with dynamic linking. You can't patch, for one thing. For one, you could not have pluggable modules. But yes, having no shared libraries means you

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-10 Thread a b
The point is, that if you're maintaining your own stack, you don't need to integrate with the base OS's packaging system. In fact, you usually don't want to mess with or touch the base stack at all! Similar to how blastwave works actually, and why it works relatively well... I disagree. I

[osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Manoj Joseph
Hi, On a box where Solaris has been freshly installed, one sees this behavior. -bash-3.00# useradd manoj -bash-3.00# tail -1 /etc/passwd manoj:x:100:1::/home/manoj:/bin/sh -bash-3.00# mkdir /home/manoj mkdir: Failed to make directory /home/manoj; Operation not applicable -bash-3.00# df -h

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, On a box where Solaris has been freshly installed, one sees this behavior. -bash-3.00# useradd manoj -bash-3.00# tail -1 /etc/passwd manoj:x:100:1::/home/manoj:/bin/sh -bash-3.00# mkdir /home/manoj mkdir: Failed to make directory /home/manoj; Operation not applicable

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Bart Smaalders
Darren J Moffat wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, On a box where Solaris has been freshly installed, one sees this behavior. -bash-3.00# useradd manoj -bash-3.00# tail -1 /etc/passwd manoj:x:100:1::/home/manoj:/bin/sh -bash-3.00# mkdir /home/manoj mkdir: Failed to make directory /home/manoj;

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Bonnie Corwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, James Carlson wrote: The issues are complex, and there are notable exceptions So I see: (just to list a few) bash GFDL hgignore hgrc pdfimages gzip gzcat xine-config zip libfontconfig I really don't like finding ersatz advertising in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Doug Scott
Bart Smaalders wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, On a box where Solaris has been freshly installed, one sees this behavior. -bash-3.00# useradd manoj -bash-3.00# tail -1 /etc/passwd manoj:x:100:1::/home/manoj:/bin/sh -bash-3.00# mkdir /home/manoj mkdir: Failed to make

Re: [osol-discuss] Zone Stability (Crash of Global Zone?)

2007-04-10 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Grady, Tuesday, April 10, 2007, 2:01:24 PM, you wrote: GP First let me apologize if this question has been asked before. I GP could not find any references and I am pretty new to the OpenSolaris Boards. GP I don't have as much experience with Solaris as I do with AIX and GP HP/UX so my

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread James Carlson
Bonnie Corwin writes: Is there any plan to clean up the eratz advertising that is currenting in the man pages? This is not advertising. It is attribution and/or verbatim use of third-party man pages. Remember that man pages are also source files. When we use third-party man pages

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Bart Smaalders
Doug Scott wrote: Bart Smaalders wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, On a box where Solaris has been freshly installed, one sees this behavior. -bash-3.00# useradd manoj -bash-3.00# tail -1 /etc/passwd manoj:x:100:1::/home/manoj:/bin/sh -bash-3.00# mkdir /home/manoj

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
Bart Smaalders wrote: How about just fixing it so that the automounter finds any home directories in /etc/passwd and mounts those on demand? When you create the user with useradd(1M) it sets the home dir to what ever you ask for usually /home/user. The problem was creating the directory

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
James Carlson wrote: Bonnie Corwin writes: Is there any plan to clean up the eratz advertising that is currenting in the man pages? This is not advertising. It is attribution and/or verbatim use of third-party man pages. Remember that man pages are also source files. When we use

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal : Solaris Open Fabrics User Verbs /API Support

2007-04-10 Thread William P. Taylor
I concur that the Solaris Open Fabrics User Verbs /API Support project should be done. Let's get this going. -Bill This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
Bart Smaalders wrote: We really want our home directories today to always be /home/user in /etc/passwd; that way things Just Work (TM) when we move from host to host. This does mean that we need another map to convert from /home/barts to wherever my home directory actually is... OR we So some

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Manoj Joseph
Bart Smaalders wrote: We really want our home directories today to always be /home/user in /etc/passwd; that way things Just Work (TM) when we move from host to host. I agree that it makes a lot of sense to be consistent. But hey, the installer, by default creates the filesystem

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Fresh Install Problems

2007-04-10 Thread Andrew Pattison
I personally prefer the Solaris 9 installer to the Solaris 10 installer. Yes, the built-in kiosk browser is based on a decrepit version of Netscape, but it requires a lot less memory, making use of a swap partition on the hard disk, and has a full screen Solaris logo. Not sure why they got rid

[osol-discuss] Noob with a couple questions

2007-04-10 Thread Mike
Hey guys I'm looking forward to trying out Solaris and hopefully leave Windows. I'm baffled on some of the information on this site. For instance, it's mentioned a few times here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ that it's a developer version? I only want to use Solaris as a desktop

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: There was no backup server before the Open Solaris box. So, are you saying you have no experience with running a backup server before this install? I would imagine it would be hard to evaluate an operating system properly in that case.

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: CentOS not being anything like the official Solaris release, I beg to differ. It is essentially what you can get with RHEL sans Redhat trademarks and direct Redhat support. Then there is Ubuntu. Linux may not be carrier grade but what it

[osol-discuss] Re: Noob with a couple questions

2007-04-10 Thread Michelle Olson
Hi, The Starter Kit is the best place to start, it has Belenix included and installation instructions for Belenix and other distributions along with the LiveCDs. Plus information about the OpenSolaris communities and good training materials. http://docs.sun.com provides the complete set of

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Bart Smaalders
Manoj Joseph wrote: Bart Smaalders wrote: We really want our home directories today to always be /home/user in /etc/passwd; that way things Just Work (TM) when we move from host to host. I agree that it makes a lot of sense to be consistent. But hey, the installer, by default creates the

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread James Dickens
Hi sorry I'm a little late to this party. But this may still help you or someone else who finds this thread later. Here is a blog entry I share with new Solaris users, http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2005/02/youre-never-far-from-home.html it explains why Solaris does this and how to configure

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
Manoj Joseph wrote: Bart Smaalders wrote: We really want our home directories today to always be /home/user in /etc/passwd; that way things Just Work (TM) when we move from host to host. I agree that it makes a lot of sense to be consistent. But hey, the installer, by default creates the

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Bonnie Corwin wrote: This is not advertising. It is attribution and/or verbatim use of third-party man pages. Remember that man pages are also source files. When we use third-party man pages or take information from third-party sources, we must explicitly cite the

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, James Carlson wrote: I was referring to having _Sun_ insert random licensing goop from the underlying software into the man page, not preserving pass-through pages. I was talking about a 3rd party driver writer inserting them there. I agree (obviously) that where we

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Darren J Moffat wrote: The easy way to do this might be to change the files repository case to not have an auto_home managed, after all if you are using files for the automount map in nsswitch.conf chances are the mounts are local rather than NFS anyway. That would

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alan DuBoff wrote: I was told that ARC doesn't like copyrights in the man pages. Really? I wouldn't think ARC would have any opinion on the matter, other than making sure you honor the requirements of the license if it's one of the include this statement in documentation sort.

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread James Carlson
Alan DuBoff writes: I was told that ARC doesn't like copyrights in the man pages. Say what? Please explain, and do so without the passive voice. Alan DuBoff writes: I agree (obviously) that where we ship somebody else's written materials (including man pages), we need to preserve this sort

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread John Plocher
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Unfortunately, a lot of people pass around ARC won't let you do _ without actually asking the ARC. The ARC's only real involvement with any of this branding and/or licensing stuff is to ensure that the branding information is not intermingled with the architectural

[osol-discuss] bug id 6503848 : still around ?

2007-04-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
This : http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6503848 says its fixed in snv_61 but when I build ON based on the current hg repo I get this at boot : SunOS Release 5.11 Version 20070326 64-bit Copyright 1983-2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Use is

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Unfortunately, a lot of people pass around ARC won't let you do _ without actually asking the ARC. I guess that would be me listening to those people. The doc person told me it was ok, and was planning to use the one with the copyright. I

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Unfortunately, a lot of people pass around ARC won't let you do _ without actually asking the ARC. I guess that would be me listening to those people. The doc person told me it was ok, and was planning to use the one with

[osol-discuss] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-discuss

2007-04-10 Thread Eric Boutilier
For background on what this is, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200 = opensolaris-discuss 03/16 - 03/31 = Size of all threads

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, John Plocher wrote: The ARC's only real involvement with any of this branding and/or licensing stuff is to ensure that the branding information is not intermingled with the architectural artifacts. That is, don't make a [marketing, license, code] name part of an interface

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-10 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Huh? I don't see a case from you on the PSARC agenda, either regular or fasttrack. Should have been, I'll check with Bart, he's my sponsor. -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group ___

[osol-discuss] Re: [opensolaris-discuss] Project Proposal : Solaris Open Fabrics User Verbs /API Support

2007-04-10 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Pramod. Your proposal has been seconded. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. Eric On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Pramod Badripra Gunjikar wrote: Hello, I would like to propose an open solaris project for : Solaris Open Fabrics User Verbs / API Support Open Fabrics User Verbs / API is

[osol-discuss] Re: [opensolaris-discuss] Project Proposal: Tesla, Solaris Enhanced Power Management

2007-04-10 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Eric. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. EricB On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Eric Saxe wrote: I'd like to propose a project to provide an enhanced platform independent power management architecture...to be known as Project Tesla. From a high level, this project would

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Tesla, Solaris Enhanced Power Management

2007-04-10 Thread Eric Boutilier
Hi Eric We need a few items to initiate your project: - A short name for the URL. This is generally one word or abbreviation (e.g tesla), or two words separated by a hyphen. - A one-line title (Tesla?) - A descriptive sentence or short paragraph (a few sentences) explaining the project or

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Tesla, Solaris Enhanced Power Management

2007-04-10 Thread Eric Boutilier
Sorry for the accidental Cc to opensolaris-discuss. :-( On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Eric Boutilier wrote: Hi Eric We need a few items to initiate your project: - A short name for the URL. This is generally one word or abbreviation (e.g tesla), or two words separated by a hyphen. - A one-line

[osol-discuss] limit number of sftp/scp sessions

2007-04-10 Thread Ben
I'm looking for a way to limit the number of authenticated sftp/scp sessions that are allowed to connect to my box. I've searched the sunsolve forums and docs.sun.com, but I'm not seeing any config that would give me the ability to limit active sessions. Does something like this exist? This

[osol-discuss] Re: Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Lars Tunkrans
JamesD wrote: it explains why Solaris does this and how to configure Solaris and Linux boxes to be the server for the home direcories This is one of the most common questions on comp.unix.solaris USENET forum as well. It is really because Solaris is more Server-Centric than

Re: [osol-discuss] Noob with a couple questions

2007-04-10 Thread Shawn Walker
On 10/04/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, how is OpenSolaris different to Solaris? http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/general_faq/#opensolaris-solaris By the way what's 'Looking Glass'? Is it available on KDE or Xfce? Or can it run on any environment? Looking Glass is an

Re: [osol-discuss] limit number of sftp/scp sessions

2007-04-10 Thread Shawn Walker
On 10/04/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a way to limit the number of authenticated sftp/scp sessions that are allowed to connect to my box. I've searched the sunsolve forums and docs.sun.com, but I'm not seeing any config that would give me the ability to limit active

Re: [osol-discuss] Noob with a couple questions

2007-04-10 Thread Anil Gulecha
Hi, Replies inline On 4/11/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, how is OpenSolaris different to Solaris? OpenSolaris is the core (kernal+networking+commands) .. Solaris is a distribution (opensolaris + Gnome+ applications) BeleniX looks like the ideal way for me to begin and with any

[osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-10 Thread William D. Hathaway
No slice for Live Upgrade? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Manoj Joseph
Darren J Moffat wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Bart Smaalders wrote: We really want our home directories today to always be /home/user in /etc/passwd; that way things Just Work (TM) when we move from host to host. I agree that it makes a lot of sense to be consistent. But hey, the installer,

Re: [osol-discuss] Can not create /home/foo

2007-04-10 Thread Manoj Joseph
Bart Smaalders wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Bart Smaalders wrote: We really want our home directories today to always be /home/user in /etc/passwd; that way things Just Work (TM) when we move from host to host. I agree that it makes a lot of sense to be consistent. But hey, the installer, by