Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread UNIX admin
> I was always of the opinion that I could metadetach > those failed sub-mirrors > and then clear out any metadatabase's that may be on > the physical devices .. > then yank the disk because .. after all that there is > no reason for there to > be any IO right ? That'd be the logical thing to thin

Re: [osol-discuss] b76 mplayer bombs?

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Ché Kristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Is it just me or? Got this after upgrading from b72 > > to b76... > > > > > > $ /usr/bin/mplayer nisse.mpg > > > ld.so.1: mplayer: fatal: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: > > open failed: No

[osol-discuss] Final note to my friends: __/__ Preaching water! __/__ Re: Request: Moinak Ghosh has deserved more "core contributor" titles, th

2007-11-18 Thread Martin Bochnig
Martin Bochnig wrote: >> Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> >>> Martin Bochnig wrote: >>> > Martin Bochnig wrote: > >> The funniest thing: I'm still only a plain >> > contributor in the xwin-community, so is Moinak > Ghosh!!! >

[osol-discuss] Preaching water! __/__ Re: [ogb-discuss] Request: Moinak Ghosh has deserved more "core contributor" titles, th

2007-11-18 Thread Martin Bochnig
> > Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Martin Bochnig wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: > The funniest thing: I'm still only a plain contributor in the xwin-community, so is Moinak Ghosh!!! > Have you emailed the X Window System Community and asked for core contributor status

Re: [osol-discuss] b76 mplayer bombs?

2007-11-18 Thread Ché Kristo
> Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Is it just me or? Got this after upgrading from b72 > to b76... > > > > $ /usr/bin/mplayer nisse.mpg > > ld.so.1: mplayer: fatal: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: > open failed: No such file or directory > > Killed > > > > truss gives: > > > > xstat(2

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
> > Here is a real winner : > > # uname -a > SunOS aequitas 5.11 snv_70b i86pc i386 i86pc > # cfgadm -al > Ap_Id Type Receptacle Occupant > Condition > usb0/1 unknown emptyunconfigured ok > usb0/2 u

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Nov 18, 2007 11:07 PM, Ignacio Marambio Catán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> > >> sun's manuals actually say you must run cfgadm > > Which makes a very good point that 'habbits' vs reading manuals should > be in favor of reading manuals. Something I admittedly don't do > enough. I get fu

Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 9 boot error

2007-11-18 Thread Calum Benson
On 17 Nov 2007, at 03:29, Bryan wrote: > Hello - > I am getting a solaris 9 boot error -- I have a sun ultraSPARC 1 > 167MHz creator box' openboot 3.11 256MB RAM This list is for the discussion of OpenSolaris, on which the eventual successor to Solaris 10 will be based, and as such isn't a

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
> > But can you get them in hard cover ? As a book I mean? paperback, from iuniverse http://corppub.iuniverse.com/marketplace/sun/0595285317.html nacho > > Dennis ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Nov 18, 2007 8:31 PM, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> let's have a look http://www.blastwave.org/man/cfgadm_1M.html >> >> >> > take a look at page 103 at the System Administration Guide: Devices >> > and File Systems book >> > it's 817-5093 >> >> http://dlc.sun.com/p

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On Nov 18, 2007 8:31 PM, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > >> let's have a look http://www.blastwave.org/man/cfgadm_1M.html > >> > > take a look at page 103 at the System Administration Guide: Devices > > and File Systems book > > it's 817-5093 > > http://dlc.sun.com/pdf/817-5093/

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> >> let's have a look http://www.blastwave.org/man/cfgadm_1M.html >> > take a look at page 103 at the System Administration Guide: Devices > and File Systems book > it's 817-5093 http://dlc.sun.com/pdf/817-5093/817-5093.pdf every now and again .. one must read the manuals. I once had the ent

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Ghee Teo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > Seems as if there was a change in default behaviour of the less command > > between b72 and b76. It now clears the screen at exit which I find most > > annoying. Or is it the GNOME terminal that has changed??? > >

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Ghee Teo
Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > Seems as if there was a change in default behaviour of the less command > between b72 and b76. It now clears the screen at exit which I find most > annoying. Or is it the GNOME terminal that has changed??? > > Anyway, why have the behaviour changed??? Yes. A fix we

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
> > let's have a look http://www.blastwave.org/man/cfgadm_1M.html > take a look at page 103 at the System Administration Guide: Devices and File Systems book it's 817-5093 nacho > Dennis Clarke > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Just try out if you do not understand the problem. > > > > > > > > > 1) MUCH more than intended is underlined > > > > Not that I can see. It appears to be working as I expect on my b76

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Nov 18, 2007 10:47 PM, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is one of those "oh I never knew that but wish I did topics" so I >> figured I would make it into a thread and then see what we can learn from >> each other. >> >> I'll tell ya, I have had no fun with dealing with a ma

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just try out if you do not understand the problem. > > > > > > 1) MUCH more than intended is underlined > > Not that I can see. It appears to be working as I expect on my b76 > system and when I ssh into a GNU/Linux box I have access to. If Caspe

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Patrick Ale
On Nov 18, 2007 11:07 PM, Ignacio Marambio Catán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > sun's manuals actually say you must run cfgadm Which makes a very good point that 'habbits' vs reading manuals should be in favor of reading manuals. Something I admittedly don't do enough. Patrick ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On Nov 18, 2007 6:57 PM, Patrick Ale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 18, 2007 10:47 PM, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is one of those "oh I never knew that but wish I did topics" so I > > figured I would make it into a thread and then see what we can learn from > > each

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > You need to be more specific about what problem you are talking about,

Re: [osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Patrick Ale
On Nov 18, 2007 10:47 PM, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is one of those "oh I never knew that but wish I did topics" so I > figured I would make it into a thread and then see what we can learn from > each other. > > I'll tell ya, I have had no fun with dealing with a machine tha

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You need to be more specific about what problem you are talking about, > > > because I don't see one in b76 or b74. > > > > If you do not kn

[osol-discuss] Hot Plug sub-mirrors ?

2007-11-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
This is one of those "oh I never knew that but wish I did topics" so I figured I would make it into a thread and then see what we can learn from each other. I'll tell ya, I have had no fun with dealing with a machine that is Netra class gear ( bullet proof ) which generally runs forever and ever

Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave down?

2007-11-18 Thread Patrick Ale
On Nov 18, 2007 8:14 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ sni sna snappie ] > Depending on your storage HW, you have to still run some sort of SCSI quiesce > equivalent on the device you plan to hot remove and hot plug. > As a funny coincidence I talked about this 'hotplug' saga with a S

Re: [osol-discuss] b76 mplayer bombs?

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it just me or? Got this after upgrading from b72 to b76... > > > > $ /usr/bin/mplayer nisse.mpg > > ld.so.1: mplayer: fatal: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: open failed: No such file > > or dir

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You need to be more specific about what problem you are talking about, > > because I don't see one in b76 or b74. > > If you do not know what I am talking about, I recommend you to repeat the

Re: [osol-discuss] b76 mplayer bombs?

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it just me or? Got this after upgrading from b72 to b76... > > $ /usr/bin/mplayer nisse.mpg > ld.so.1: mplayer: fatal: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: open failed: No such file or > directory > Killed > > truss gives: > > xstat(2, "/usr/sfw/lib/libcdio_p

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need to be more specific about what problem you are talking about, > because I don't see one in b76 or b74. If you do not know what I am talking about, I recommend you to repeat the description I send before... Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (h

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
>You said that xterm was affected yes, clearly if you change rmcup xterm will notice. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave down?

2007-11-18 Thread UNIX admin
> The strange thing is, when I hot plugged the new disk > in the whole machine > went for a panic. Very annoying. Depending on your storage HW, you have to still run some sort of SCSI quiesce equivalent on the device you plan to hot remove and hot plug. Contrary to the popular belief, hot plug

Re: [osol-discuss] b76 mplayer bombs?

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it just me or? Got this after upgrading from b72 to b76... > > $ /usr/bin/mplayer nisse.mpg > ld.so.1: mplayer: fatal: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: open failed: No such file or > directory > Killed libcdio was removed due to a licensing

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >Well, as I stated earlier, xterm was _not_ affected by this "bug" fix. > > > > > > That may have been stated earlier but that does not make it true; > > xterm *was* affected by this bug fix. > > I asume

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >I asume that this "bug fix" now introduced the same kind of annoinganf > > >buggy behavior with less that is known for a long time between Linux = > > >and Solaris. > > > > Why on earth would you assume

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, "Thommy M. Malmström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Well, as I stated earlier, xterm was _not_ affected by this "bug" fix. > >> > > > > > > That may have been stated earlier but that does not make it true; > > xterm *was* affected by this bug fix. > > > >

Re: [osol-discuss] b76 mplayer bombs?

2007-11-18 Thread Erik Takahide Törnqvist
libcdio was removed in b75. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] b76 mplayer bombs?

2007-11-18 Thread Thommy M . Malmström
Is it just me or? Got this after upgrading from b72 to b76... $ /usr/bin/mplayer nisse.mpg ld.so.1: mplayer: fatal: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: open failed: No such file or directory Killed truss gives: xstat(2, "/usr/sfw/lib/libcdio_paranoia.so.0", 0x08046678) Err#2 ENOENT xstat(2, "/usr/lib/libcdi

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I asume that this "bug fix" now introduced the same kind of annoinganf > >buggy behavior with less that is known for a long time between Linux = > >and Solaris. > > Why on earth would you assume that and not just read the fix which just > rmcup and smcup? You said th

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
>I asume that this "bug fix" now introduced the same kind of annoinganf >buggy behavior with less that is known for a long time between Linux = >and Solaris. Why on earth would you assume that and not just read the fix which just rmcup and smcup? Casper _

Re: [osol-discuss] Preconditions for luupdate

2007-11-18 Thread Mario Goebbels
Here's a related question, that came up when I've tried Live Upgrade the first time yesterday, trying to get from snv_72 to snv_76. Which failed. The thing that blew the whole attempt up was that lucreate suddenly also started copying /export and everything in it (everything starting with /export/

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Well, as I stated earlier, xterm was _not_ affected by this "bug" fix. > > > That may have been stated earlier but that does not make it true; > xterm *was* affected by this bug fix. I asume that this "bug fix" now introduced the same kind of annoinganf buggy behavio

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
>Anyway, I expect an editor to run the edit session in the alternate> >screen and to switch back to the normal screen when ready. > >I expect a pager to display the file content in the normal screen and= > to leave the content after the pager ends. Tis is how "more" works since ages >and this is h

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
>Well, as I stated earlier, xterm was _not_ affected by this "bug" fix. That may have been stated earlier but that does not make it true; xterm *was* affected by this bug fix. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >I would expect you to be a die-hard xterm user instead, in which case > >you could just use the titleInhibit xresource property to get back the > >behaviour you want. > > > titeInhibit, not titleIhibit (it's derived from ti-te Inhibit; were > ti and te are the termc

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I would expect you to be a die-hard xterm user instead, in which case > >you could just use the titleInhibit xresource property to get back the > >behaviour you want. > > > titeInhibit, not titleIhibit (it's derived from ti-te Inhib

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
>I would expect you to be a die-hard xterm user instead, in which case >you could just use the titleInhibit xresource property to get back the >behaviour you want. titeInhibit, not titleIhibit (it's derived from ti-te Inhibit; were ti and te are the termcap settings for smcup and rmcup. Casper

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, "Thommy M. Malmström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: > > On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> The init and term strings have been traditionally in "is" and "rs". > >> > >> The official termcap database from Eric Raymond includes: > >> >

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The init and term strings have been traditionally in "is" and "rs". > > The official termcap database from Eric Raymond includes: > > smcup=\E7\E[?47h > rmcup=\E[2J\E[?47l\E8 > > for xterm R6 > > Let us disassemble: > > 'sc' -> '\E7'

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > > > > > Seems as if there was a change in default > > > behaviour

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >If absolute cursor positioning did work before, it is obvious that > >nothing was missing. > > Considering that both less and vi left arbitrary trash on the screen, > it can be argued that they were missing. > > > >Whether to clear the screen or not is a personal decisi

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > > > > Seems as if there was a change in default > > behaviour > > > > of the less command between b72 and b76. It now > > > > cl

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It fixed something which was broken since Solaris 2.0; it now works again > as it did in SunOS 4.x and before. > > It's a religious issue and I think it now works again as it did in > other OSes since a long time. The problem is that these databases are wrong in many ca

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
>What is expected? >Why do you believe they where missing? If a terminal emulator needs special initialization to allow for cursor addressing, then rmcup and smcup must be provided. >If absolute cursor positioning did work before, it is obvious that >nothing was missing. Considering that both

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why do you assume this? > > > > Maybe you do not know how terminfo/termcap works. > > I know enough to still ask "why do you think the fix is incorrect?" I still need to doubt > > Let me add the output of my "cap" program that disaccembles term

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
>On 18/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It fixed something which was broken since Solaris 2.0; it now works again >> as it did in SunOS 4.x and before. >> >> It's a religious issue and I think it now works again as it did in >> other OSes since a long time. > >Indeed; it ha

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Thommy M . Malmström
> On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > > > Seems as if there was a change in default > behaviour > > > of the less command between b72 and b76. It now > > > clears the screen at exit which I find most > annoying. > > > Or is it the GNO

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It fixed something which was broken since Solaris 2.0; it now works again > as it did in SunOS 4.x and before. > > It's a religious issue and I think it now works again as it did in > other OSes since a long time. Indeed; it has worked

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Casper . Dik
It fixed something which was broken since Solaris 2.0; it now works again as it did in SunOS 4.x and before. It's a religious issue and I think it now works again as it did in other OSes since a long time. But it's largely a religious issue, as our internal mailing list discussions on this sub

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > > > > Seems as if there was a change in default behaviour > > > > of the less command betw

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > > > Seems as if there was a change in default behaviour > > > of the less command between b72 and b76. It now > > > clears the screen at exit which I find

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/11/2007, Thommy M. Malmström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > > Seems as if there was a change in default behaviour > > of the less command between b72 and b76. It now > > clears the screen at exit which I find most annoying. > > Or is it the GNOME terminal that h

Re: [osol-discuss] less

2007-11-18 Thread Thommy M . Malmström
> Thommy M. Malmström wrote: > > Seems as if there was a change in default behaviour > of the less command between b72 and b76. It now > clears the screen at exit which I find most annoying. > Or is it the GNOME terminal that has changed??? > > > > Anyway, why have the behaviour changed??? > > Th