[osol-discuss] Network status is unknown...

2010-07-07 Thread abhishek
Dear All, I have installed open solaris on IBm Server. When i am configuring network interface using console.i am not able to do it. I ran dladm show-link, it shows bge0 status is unknown. I have tried all the possible menthods to configure. Request you to help me to resolve the issue.

Re: [osol-discuss] [opengrok] setup issue opengrok fails....

2010-07-07 Thread Sadanand Limaye
Thanks for your support... I found the cause. Because of default tomcat installed on sun solaris 10 x86 platform, is using Jdk 1.4 by default. I installed separate tomcat with JDK 1.6 and now , opengrok is working properly Thanks again... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle does not sell laptops

2010-07-07 Thread Svein Skogen
On 06.07.2010 16:21, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Oracle's interest in opensolaris is for the sake of improving solaris, for use in servers. They have nothing to gain (except lots of headache) by trying to make opensolaris good as a desktop operating system. They cannot displace windows or osx

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-07-07 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
All I'm reading is that you think Oracle/Sun has such a great QA process (I have no doubts about it) that it can ignore users' bug reports, they are just going to prove what you've already found, which is sufficient for the purposes of releasing your software. This show how much *some*

Re: [osol-discuss] printer installation

2010-07-07 Thread Ghee Teo
On 07/ 6/10 04:36 PM, chuck bowers wrote: I have been doubly stymied: I cant install my Epson CX94000 printer, and cant find any printed help on the matter. The shelf model installation process is filled with mystery (e.g., select from two unknown drivers) and unknown terms (queue). I

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-07-07 Thread Ben Lavery
Thanks for the clarification Alan :) On 6 Jul 2010, at 22:46, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ben wrote: While OpenSolaris isn't an open source project, isn't Indiana an open source project? That question seems to be confused about both what OpenSolaris is and what open source is. Indiana

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 DVD set

2010-07-07 Thread Bruce D Porter
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:16:00 -0700, Gary wrote: Wow! I knew about the 90 day eval, but wasn't aware that included a purchase of the DVD set? Maybe the car companies should look into that kind of a deal. Someone buys a car, but it isn't really theirs, they only get an eval for 5 years,

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jul 2010, at 04:11, Jonathan Edwards wrote: i don't know about you, but personally I'd rather spend my time on my family, social life, or developing useful pieces of infrastructure instead of trying to figure out why compiz isn't working with the Intel embedded video chip on an

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jul 2010, at 03:58, Jonathan Edwards wrote: [Open]Solaris .. It's too tied to the Sun (and the old planetary) marketing themes Since Oracle just reverted the name of Sun Java System Web Server to one of its original names, iPlanet Web Server, seems if anything they're trying to

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-07-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jul 2010, at 09:36, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: All I'm reading is that you think Oracle/Sun has such a great QA process (I have no doubts about it) that it can ignore users' bug reports I don't believe that at all. I don't know of any bug report that Oracle/Sun has 'ignored', now or in

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-07-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jul 2010, at 12:23, Calum Benson wrote: Even your bug report contains identical information (Sorry, that's supposed to say Even if your bug report contains identical information...) -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation Ireland Ltd. mailto:calum.ben...@oracle.com

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Since Oracle just reverted the name of Sun Java System Web Server to one of its original names, iPlanet Web Server, seems if anything they're trying to preserve the old planetary marketing names for Sun products... If that actually happened, that demonstrates that while Oracle may do better

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Gary
If anything, at least iPlanet Web Server is much easier to say, and rolls off the tongue better than Sun Java System Web Server. Plus, I took an eCommerce class for iPlanet at a SUN education training center in Dallas years ago. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
If anything, at least iPlanet Web Server is much easier to say, and rolls off the tongue better than Sun Java System Web Server. Plus, I took an eCommerce class for iPlanet at a SUN education training center in Dallas years ago. Insofar as this is simply undoing the damage from the last

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jul 2010, at 13:22, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: Since Oracle just reverted the name of Sun Java System Web Server to one of its original names, iPlanet Web Server, seems if anything they're trying to preserve the old planetary marketing names for Sun products... If that actually

Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
i have created an additional loopback interface for denying ARP reply for a certain ip, here are the commands i have run: ifconfig lo0:1 plumb ifconfig lo0:1 x.x.x.x -arp netmask 255.255.255.255 up secondly i need to make it permanent , so i tried the following to insert into the

Re: [osol-discuss] Multithreading X

2010-07-07 Thread John Martin
On 07/ 6/10 10:48 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: But retrofitting a 25-year old multi-million line code base to be completely thread-safe, much less thread-hot, is not a small task. And since we already have GPU's that run 128 or 256 operations in parallel without adding any threads to the core

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Nikola M
Gary wrote: If one purchases a Solaris 10 DVD set from Oracle, they have a valid license. Does that permit one to download patches? Who needs Closed source Solaris, when you have OpenSolaris, and other Opensolaris distributions, anyway? ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Nikola M Gary wrote: If one purchases a Solaris 10 DVD set from Oracle, they have a valid license. Does that permit one to download patches? Who needs Closed source

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Peter Jones
There is a lesson to be learnt herethe smaller the user group the greater the costs of support and development. It could be that Opensolaris is the ansawer but it needs a large user group and wide appeal otherwise it will end up under these terms.. -- This message posted from

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle does not sell laptops

2010-07-07 Thread Peter Jones
there IS a commercial benefit in trying to get (back) into graphics workstations. The customer looking for a serious workstation usually has less difficulty paying for quality than the user looking for a webbrowser-in-a-box. A lesson to be learnt from Mac's success.people see value in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Jones There is a lesson to be learnt herethe smaller the user group the greater the costs of support and development. It could be that Opensolaris is the ansawer

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-07-07 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi Calum, Calum Benson píše v út 06. 07. 2010 v 21:19 +0100: On 6 Jul 2010, at 20:50, Rafael Barros Felix de Sousa wrote: Without the open source community (usually made of hardcore users with extensive knowledge of computing who usually work in IT companies or universities) support,

Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

2010-07-07 Thread Andre Lue
Unless I misunderstand blackhole routing may be more what you are looking for? route add -net x.x.x.x -netmask 255.255.255.0 interface_ip -blackhole -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Nikola M
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Who needs Closed source Solaris, when you have OpenSolaris, and other Opensolaris distributions, anyway? I do. Why do you ask? Why do anyone need to use something closed and proprietary when there is open product available ? (Opensolaris and distributions)

Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

2010-07-07 Thread Brian Ruthven - Solaris Network Sustaining - Oracle UK
mongaron wrote: i have created an additional loopback interface for denying ARP reply for a certain ip, here are the commands i have run: ifconfig lo0:1 plumb ifconfig lo0:1 x.x.x.x -arp netmask 255.255.255.255 up secondly i need to make it permanent , so i tried the following to insert

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: It certainly happened, here's the latest mapping of old Sun names to new Oracle names: http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562. html I'm not a great fan of some of them, but Oracle does at least have a rather better history

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Gary
At least IBM doesn't make it IBM AIX, IBM WebSphere, IBM Tivoli, IBM DB2, IBM FileNet, IBM Lotus, etc. I'm going to vomit if they keep making everything Oracle this or Oracle that. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] printer installation

2010-07-07 Thread Norm Jacobs
FWIW, the Gutenprint driver shipped in OpenSolaris supports this Epson printer, so it should show up in the print manager (system-config-printer) or CUPS web interface as an option for make/model. -Norm On 07/ 6/10 11:17 AM, Ghee Teo wrote: On 07/ 6/10 04:36 PM, chuck bowers wrote: I

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Gary wrote: At least IBM doesn't make it IBM AIX, IBM WebSphere, IBM Tivoli, IBM DB2, IBM FileNet, IBM Lotus, etc. I'm going to vomit if they keep making everything Oracle this or Oracle that. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/aix/index.html - IBM AIX

Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

2010-07-07 Thread Will Fiveash
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 12:07:30PM -0700, mongaron wrote: i have created an additional loopback interface for denying ARP reply for a certain ip, here are the commands i have run: ifconfig lo0:1 plumb ifconfig lo0:1 x.x.x.x -arp netmask 255.255.255.255 up secondly i need to make it

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-07 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Calum Benson wrote: On 7 Jul 2010, at 04:11, Jonathan Edwards wrote: i don't know about you, but personally I'd rather spend my time on my family, social life, or developing useful pieces of infrastructure instead of trying to figure out why compiz isn't

Re: [osol-discuss] HSDPA modem

2010-07-07 Thread Rui Silva
I've edited /etc/resolv.conf and added the nameservers... But I still can't resolve the hosts' IPs... It seems that everything is okay... I just can't understand what is going wrong. Thank you for your help! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Gary
Oracle didn't develope any of them, they bought SUN. My plastering their name on everything they are giving the impression they created it. Big difference. And Oracle is really paying you to scour IBM sites to refute an opinion? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jul 2010, at 18:18, David Brodbeck wrote: Is there any real reason to run compiz, other than so you can watch your windows go up in flames or break into little tiny cubes when you close them? I don't think anybody really uses those :) Some of the more subtle effects are quite useful,

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Hillel Lubman
Well Sun Studio is now called Orcale Solaris Studio (OSS). How does it fit with the Lniux [ex]Sun Studio version? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle does not sell laptops

2010-07-07 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
There is no direct, visible commercial benefit for oracle to try to displace ubuntu in the desktop market. There is however a drawback for Oracle's commercial success in case that Solaris is no longer viable on the desktop. Jörg Heartily agreed! But I am also looking at this

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Calum Benson
On 7 Jul 2010, at 18:43, Gary wrote: Oracle didn't develope any of them But they do now. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation Ireland Ltd. mailto:calum.ben...@oracle.com Solaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Norm Jacobs
On 07/ 7/10 12:43 PM, Gary wrote: Oracle didn't develope any of them, they bought SUN. My plastering their name on everything they are giving the impression they created it. Big difference. From your choice of words and some of the other statements in your post, I will assume that you

[osol-discuss] Location of ZFS Uberblock

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Toms
Hello, My setup is a single disk with ZFS on the root fs. With UFS the superblock is 8KB from the beginning of the disk. Is there a way for me to find how much this offset is in ZFS? I have tried 'od -A x-x c1t2d0s0 | grep 00ba b10c' , but it does not find any matches. -- This message

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Gary
I'm well aware of what IBM bought. So maybe you should engage your brain next time before you leap to conclusions. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Location of ZFS Uberblock

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Mike Toms mjack...@unitrends.com wrote: Hello, My setup is a single disk with ZFS on the root fs.  With UFS the superblock is 8KB from the beginning of the disk.  Is there a way for me to find how much this offset is in ZFS? I have tried 'od -A x-x c1t2d0s0

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Norm Jacobs
On 07/ 7/10 02:21 PM, Gary wrote: I'm well aware of what IBM bought. That didn't seem apparent to me from my initial read of your reply, though it's possible that I misunderstood or missed some prior context where that was clearly imparted. I'll go back to this for just a minute, since

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread John Martin
On 07/ 7/10 01:43 PM, Gary wrote: And Oracle is really paying you to scour IBM sites to refute an opinion? http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/79229 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Ian Collins
On 07/ 8/10 01:18 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Calum Bensoncalum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: It certainly happened, here's the latest mapping of old Sun names to new Oracle names: http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.html I'm not a great fan of some of them, but Oracle does

Re: [osol-discuss] Multithreading X

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
hwc. Hardware cursor movement on Xsun was handled inside the kernel driver, offloading some of the work from the X process. hwc did improve the interactive feel of the desktop, even if part of it was only aesthetic. Yes, I appreciate that on SPARCs with suitable hardware running Xsun. One

[osol-discuss] SATA 6G controller for OSOL

2010-07-07 Thread valrh...@gmail.com
I'm wanting to fire up a new SSD for an L2ARC on a ZFS box I've put together, and was looking at some of the new drives. Many of the faster ones, with great read speeds, are SATA-6G compatible, and I'm wondering if any of you has gotten these cards to work. In particular, the Asus U3S6:

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-07 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
I don't think anybody really uses those :) Some of the more subtle effects are quite useful, though, such as the Exposé-like window switching. So close to perfection - but this bug still bugs me: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=10161 -- This message posted from

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-07 Thread valrh...@gmail.com
Adding my two cents: I use OSOL as my everyday workstation OS. I prefer it to Ubuntu (very slightly, see below), and definitely over WinXP and Win7. One MAJOR reason is that it doesn't break. Ubuntu is always updating, and that reboot always involves a bit of nervousness until the login screen

Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

2010-07-07 Thread mongaron
you are right i should have said what is my goal. i am using SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris. i am not running a zone with the same IP address ,actually no zones are running at all. The problem i am trying to fix is called LVS: The ARP Problem,

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Tak Pui Lou
I have a suggestion. Let's call it Oracle [S]olaris [U]nix [C]ommunity [K]iller [S]ystem until we see a real release. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-07-07 Thread Tak Pui Lou
Actually, there are some important features still missing in FreeBSD: InfiniBand support, pNFS, Xen dom0 for x86_64, HA clustering suite, etc. But, FreeBSD is always free! Not everyone needs all those missing features. Consider that FreeBSD is and will always be free, it makes more sense to

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Nikola M Why do anyone need to use something closed and proprietary when there is open product available ? (Opensolaris and distributions) I don't know. Why does anyone

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle does not sell laptops

2010-07-07 Thread Charles Hedrick
If I considered Solaris viable for the long-term (which I won't until we can get answers from our sales team on all the policy questions), I would use it for both desktop and laptop if I could. Clearly I'd like at least some development systems to run the same OS as my production servers.

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-07 Thread Jonathan Edwards
yeah .. not quite as quirky in ubuntu - but the real thing in compiz/emerald that drives me nuts is the sheer volume of configuration options - i think apple got it right to simplify the visual effects down to a few key ones and make them really simple for people to configure/use personally

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Ken Gunderson
You seem to be operating under the delusion that a commercial support contracts are magic bullets for protection from unplanned outages. Let me assure you in reality it is far from it. Indeed, in many instances in house experts can offer more expedient resolutions, especially for issues that

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-07 Thread Ian Collins
On 07/ 8/10 03:26 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: [context would be nice] You seem to be operating under the delusion that a commercial support contracts are magic bullets for protection from unplanned outages. Let me assure you in reality it is far from it. Indeed, in many instances in house