On 04/10/2010 18:45, George Vasick wrote:
I can reproduce the problem on my system running bash so I don't think
it is related the the shell:
OK, was just wondering if it might be related to
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6974936
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On 01/10/2010 03:17, Saadia Fatima wrote:
Invalid argc value is passed to main, when I run the program with no cmmand
line arguments
main(argc = 134551360, argv=0x8047b2a) // from gdb
How to fix this??
Which shell are you using?
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On 31/07/2010 21:01, usafverteran wrote:
You are the biggest contributor to keeping this story going. Do you take
pleasure in keeping this topic alive?
*COUGH*
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-July/058383.html
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FYI:
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/161333
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On 15/07/2010 16:48, Gary wrote:
Please remove me or give me the link so I may do it myself.
I've already done that off-list. I'll resend the mail to you.
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will only make things worse.
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ds'.
The version of Jive we are running is old and no longer supported, and
we haven't been creating Jive forums to pair up with new mailing lists
for quite some time. We haven't decided what to replace Jive with in
the future, but for now it should be considered to be 'd
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respond to hostile posts because that only escalates the situation.
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/tou
It appears that some people haven't heeded this warning.
We *will* take action if the personal insults and name-calling don't stop.
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http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=14673
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tw, I don't have bluetooth on my PC either. I can only use data-cable :( Also, I'm a newbie @ UNIX tbh.
See http://blogs.sun.com/chrisg/entry/mobile_internet_on_opensolaris
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ommunity+Group+on/WebHome/cstyle.ms.pdf
They should answer most of your questions.
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Gary wrote:
I'll ask any question I want, so GFY!
Last warning: another mail like that and you'll be removed from the
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illions on OpenSolaris. Only to turn around and spend millions more
to make OpenSolaris the new Solaris 11.
There's a number of misconceptions there, most of which Alan Coopersmith
addressed in an earlier post:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-February/053914.html
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nsive remarks on this alias, please send a list of names
to website-admin.
If we feel that individuals are violating the site TOU we reserve the
right, as outlined in the TOU, to suspend people immediately, and with
no further warning.
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. We've therefore
rebuilt with gcc 4.3.4, which doesn't have the same issue. If you
downloaded the original tarball, we recommend you replace it with the
new version.
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Alan Burlison wrote:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2006033001/
That's not working properly, I'll investigate.
We've identified the cause of the problem and are working on a fix,
we'll send out a heads-up when it is in place
nsolaris.org/os/community/tools/gcc/shadow/
That link gets redirected correctly for me.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2006033001/
That's not working properly, I'll investigate.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/gcc/flagday/
That link gets re
unavailable for the next four hours whilst the Auth upgrade is in
progress. We will send out an announcement when the services are
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> Also, I am only able to get 1024x768 screen.
See http://blogs.sun.com/alanbur/entry/kicking_both_tyres_together_virtualbox
for instructions on how to increase the resolution.
This message posted from opensolaris.org
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Shawn Walker wrote:
[more stuff]
Please don't cc me on any more mail on this subject, I won't be taking
any further part, nor will I be reading the traffic on opensolaris-discuss.
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ist is immaterial for the purpose of the proposal.
>
> Since it is an example listed in the constitution, one would assume,
> logically, that it is something that should have been delegated. I,
> personally, do not believe that it has been adequately defined or
> delegated.
ple
wanting to vote, or discuss the terms of usage of the OpenSolaris
trademark. What is holding that discussion up? Why has it not yet been
voted upon?
Again, I believe the OGB are discussing this tomorrow.
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ent at the moment, our community continues to debate who exactly
> has authority over what, and has bickered endlessly over topics that
> should have been decided long ago.
You seem to be confusing lack of appropriate mechanisms with our failure
to use the ones already in place. And you seem t
Alan Burlison wrote:
> Bearing in mind there's only ever been one vote
Before someone points it out, there have been two - the Community
priorities/Test vote and the OGB/Constitution vote.
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re purely organisational issues.
It is not realistic to expect that every aspect of the functioning of
the OpenSolaris community is promulgated in the constitution. The
constitution is supposed to lay down a framework within which the
community can operate and come to decisions, it is not supposed
community is to survive.
As for your oft-repeated statement about 'stop energy', there's a very
simple way of redirecting all the energy, and that's to hold votes on
the issues.
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ose to go down this route in the first place, it is we
who must take the responsibility of delivering on what we committed to.
> I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Not in the least bit.
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concrete step towards a resolution, no matter how rough you think it is
at the moment. Thank you for doing it.
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Alan Burlison wrote:
> I'd therefore suggest that a deadline is set of 2 weeks for preparing a
> proposal and associated plan to be put to the OpenSolaris community at
> large. The Advocacy Community and the Trademark and Branding Project
> are to be responsible for produ
d - no more no less. If
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sion (which would be
> the middle of next year) before we try to crystalise a veto like that.
> We may find our attitudes have changed. If they haven't - well, fair
> enough.
No. We need a decision before then. 2 weeks may be too short, 6 months
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at the proposal be ratified or rejected by the OGB
> itself.
Agreed, I should have been more explicit and put that in. We elected
the OGB to be the voice of the community, it seems right that they
should be given the power to act in that role in
That's a clear, concrete proposal for how we can move forward.
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953)
Vote early and vote often.
Al Capone (1899 - 1947)
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mailing lists is not reasonable, not least
because you are never sure if you are reading the current version of the
proposal or not.
If someone has something concrete, can we please have a page set up and
the link widely disseminated? Ta.
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claiming that they are the 'voice of
the majority'. A vote is how we gauge the collective opinion of the
community, not statements from one individual or another.
I find the continuing attempts to avoid addressing this fundamental
issue of community governance extremely perturbing. One
group(s).
It's a hole that has been discussed before. Hey I know, let's put a
proposal together on how it should be fixed and then vote on it.
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How?
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John Plocher wrote:
> Even better, contribute and make the project something that
> reflects your values - make it something you can vote *for*.
>
>> On 31/10/2007, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What will be the point of having a vote on somethi
Simon Phipps wrote:
>> Who has the mandate to say when iteration is appropriate and when the
>> democratic process is appropriate?
>
> Oh, the irony :-)
I wasn't being ironic. Who is it? I think it's an important
e project team might in the future choose to
> pursue its goals successfully within the OpenSolaris framework. If
> the project team were content to be known as Indiana or some other
> name that does not imply the community's exclusive endorsement without
>
the problem they collectively have
> chosen to address, regardless of their motives for doing so. We fall
> back to a democratic process when that fails. Now is the time for
> iteration.
Who has the mandate to say when iteration is appropriate and when the
democratic process is appro
ient.
And as for constructive criticisms, I've made one. We should have a
vote. This would help draw a line under the endless mail threads (such
as this) that the current situation will cause.
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Shawn Walker wrote:
>> So where is the announcement about step B - the vote?
>
> That would require the proposal to be finished; why don't you go help
> us finish it?
Because I'm working up to 18 hours a day single-handedly trying to
rewrite opensolari
Shawn Walker wrote:
> It's hard to propose something intangible; now we have something
> tangible to base our proposal on. Seems far more logical that way,
> doesn't it?
So where is the announcement about step B - the vote?
that is made has the
mandate of the community. Otherwise this debate will rumble on, and on,
and on. Holding a vote would mean that a clear line could be drawn
under the issue and the community could move on.
I'll be perfectly happy to accept *whatever* decision the community make
emocracy works is
A) Somebody makes a proposal
C) everyone votes on it, if approved then
C) The proposal is acted on
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is issue. We're not ignoring it.
When it is probably too late. Where have you all been for the last N
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naming announcement. What I saw was a project
> going forward with an early prototype having chose a tentative name
> for it until the community gets their collective posteriors in gear
> and makes a final decision.
Has the community
important that we keep clear about what
>> happened, when and why.
>
> Agreed 100% Alan and thanks for calling me on it.
No probs, and thanks :-)
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They've already made the naming announcement, and there has been no
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> decisions.
What will be the point of having a vote on something that is a fait
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should expect their usual torpor to continue...
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>
> 5) Have a community vote
>
> Really, I don't see the problem here.
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n of the
electorate. Without that you get into the farcical position we see so
often in the OpenSolaris 'community', where multiple small subsets of
the 'community' all simultaneously claim to speak for the majority, with
no evidence to support their claim.
rights - so we have a formal mechanism for gauging the views of the
community on important changes which affect the entire community. This
is clearly such an issue.
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would have happened even if Indiana hadn't come along. Granted, they've
probably happened a little faster, but they are all areas that were
already being worked on.
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members of the community. So I
> figured I'd see some voting happen before decisions were made.
+1 - there should have been a vote.
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user 'alex' will be displayed and can be edited.
Note: last time I mailed about this webapp it caused some confusion; it
has nothing to do with Solaris, it is the application that will be used
to manage user accounts, communities
Please don-t cross-post help requests to both opensolaris-help and
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The service should be back up and running.
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dy, but what do I know...I'm just a
> no-op.;-)
1. It is the job of the *community* to do this, not 'Folks with
OpenSolaris in their job title'. If you thing it should be done - go do it.
2. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/proje
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ris.org/os/project/website/website_restructuring/
The source is available from:
svn+ssh://opensolaris.org/svn/website/auth
It is also be browsable on-line at:
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/website/auth
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nless you think people who have signed up are
all going to reregister, and are going to keep multiple accounts in sync
by hand. We already have multiple applications accessing the common
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Pradhap Devarajan wrote:
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more use
10.
Please see the Zones documentation,
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1592 and the BigAdmin Zones page,
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e again,
please stop it, it isn't appropriate, or helpful.
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ing never get INIT
> -ACK from solaris .Can i know whats might be problem is there anyway to debug
> this .
Please note, the correct forum for this question is solaris-help
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xavier wrote:
> I am running Solaris with two NICs in the box ce0 ce1. Is there any way to
> get full duplex 1000
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do it, but it needs a password to be inputted to work.
> Does anyone know how I can pass a password on a Bash script?
>
> Or
>
> Is there a better way to backing up my Open Solaris system to a Windows 2003
> share? It seems that the smbmount
Frank Hofmann wrote:
> If that's not encouraging to you, feel free to go back sulking in your
> cave ;) but personally, I take it as a great sign of things to come !
>
> Good news indeed :)
My sentiments entirely :-)
rs ago?
How exactly do you thin your venting is going to improve things?
Please calm down. Making personal attacks on execs at other companies
isn't going to help us one jot.
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This is also interesting
http://blogs.adobe.com/johnnyl/2007/08/innovate_or_integrate_3.html
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e of this blog is to provide a
platform for developers and the users of the product to share ideas,
experiences and feedback about the product for the benefit of everyone."
Posted by Gaurav Jain on August 23, 2007 02:30 PM
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>> Ummm, he was joking.
>
> Can't say that I found it funny.
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an offense code, pardon, spec, too?
> So much for friendly community.
>
> This whole "policing" opensolaris: discuss is getting out of hand. Really.
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sort of a standard, or is the software vendor trying to be 'helpful' by
including the HSFS filesystem?
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> This is a good post for the help forum. :)
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of the source) that they carry more weight than they actually do.
I'd therefore request that we just stick to what we *do* know and leave
the speculation to other people.
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n go on the list of things to do but realistically
> it won't be changed any time soon.
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may also find some of the links on http://opensolaris.org/os/newbies
helpful :-)
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I've put a reference to os-help in the top of the page, but I don't know
how you change the order of the forums in the list below...
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n non-help groups hardly seems to be
> a phenomenon unique to the solaris lists.
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st.
This is clearly an area where the community should take responsibility
for solving the problem. As I said, it's about time the community
stopped expecting to be spoon-fed at every turn, and started taking
responsibility for solving some of the issues.
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