> >
> > I certainly hope the terms of the settlement are
> > released.
> > Keeping it secret would conspire to cast FUD on
> all
> > other
> > distributions incorporating ZFS or considering it;
> > most of
> > which would be targeted at folks well below the
> > Fortune 500,
> > which means those n
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Joerg Schilling
>
> I have no problems if patents do what they have been designed for.
> Allow to
> claim patent rights for personal inventors to prevent companies from
> using
Brian Utterback wrote:
> On 09/13/10 08:22, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
> > But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created to
> > protect inventions made by single personss against big companies 200 years
> > ago.
> > Patents are now perverted by the big co
Brian Utterback wrote:
> On 09/13/10 13:21, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
> > John Martin wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/13/10 08:22 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
> >>
> >>> But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created to
> >>> protect inventions ma
casper@sun.com wrote:
>
> >casper@sun.com wrote:
> >
> >> Also, the law should be changed to disallow patent trolls: if you don't
> >> ship or plan to ship a product using your patent, then clearly you're not
> >> suffering when someone else is using a similar invention.
> >
> >This is aga
On 09/13/10 08:22, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
> But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created to
> protect inventions made by single personss against big companies 200 years
> ago.
> Patents are now perverted by the big companies against the original intent
>casper@sun.com wrote:
>
>> Also, the law should be changed to disallow patent trolls: if you don't
>> ship or plan to ship a product using your patent, then clearly you're not
>> suffering when someone else is using a similar invention.
>
>This is against the original intention for patents:
>
casper@sun.com wrote:
> Also, the law should be changed to disallow patent trolls: if you don't
> ship or plan to ship a product using your patent, then clearly you're not
> suffering when someone else is using a similar invention.
This is against the original intention for patents:
Patent
On 09/13/10 13:21, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
> John Martin wrote:
>
>> On 09/13/10 08:22 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
>>
>>> But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created to
>>> protect inventions made by single personss against big compa
>There's also a public good argument. When you patent something, yes, you get
>a temporary monopoly -- but the tradeoff is you have to publicly reveal it.
>In the absence of patents, more technological advances would be treated as
>trade secrets and kept out of the public eye.
>
>I do think t
John Martin wrote:
> On 09/13/10 08:22 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
>
> > But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created to
> > protect inventions made by single personss against big companies 200 years
> > ago.
> > Patents are now perverted by the big co
On 09/13/10 08:22 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created to
protect inventions made by single personss against big companies 200 years ago.
Patents are now perverted by the big companies against the original intention.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> If I own a company, or even shares of a company, that pays salaries &
> benefits to a team of engineers and pays for all their tools, and all my
> engineers have agreed to intellectual property agreements with the company,
> then I want to kn
You (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
> In Great Britain, the Copyright law was introduced in 1710, in Germany the
> Urgeberrecht was introduced in 1837.
Nice typo... ;-)
It's the Urheberrecht, not the Urgeberrecht. But, it might have been a good
idea to create a copyleft instead of the copykeep...
"Edward Ned Harvey" wrote:
> > From: Joerg Schilling [mailto:joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de]
> >
> > But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created
> > to
> > protect inventions made by single personss against big companies 200
> > years ago.
> > Patents are now perve
> From: Joerg Schilling [mailto:joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de]
>
> But in any case, patents are anachronistic. Patents have been created
> to
> protect inventions made by single personss against big companies 200
> years ago.
> Patents are now perverted by the big companies against the origi
"Edward Ned Harvey" wrote:
> > From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> > discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of russell
> >
> > Given that computer software is just a series of mathematical
> > operations expressed in a form that can be interpreted by a pr
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of No Real Name
>
> This would only matter if they were still worth doing development for.
> It's not a wise investment of time at this point, and probably never
> will be again. T
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of russell
>
> Given that computer software is just a series of mathematical
> operations expressed in a form that can be interpreted by a processor,
> I find the whole concept of
This would only matter if they were still worth doing development for. It's not
a wise investment of time at this point, and probably never will be again. This
matters to dimwit suit wearing fracktards, but to everyone else it's pretty
irrelevant in the bigger picture.
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It is not clear if Sun provided enough information to invalidate all the
patents that ZFS was threatened with. PJ @ Groklaw does not appear to have
updated the status of the ZFS dispute since 2008.
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>
> I certainly hope the terms of the settlement are
> released.
> Keeping it secret would conspire to cast FUD on all
> other
> distributions incorporating ZFS or considering it;
> most of
> which would be targeted at folks well below the
> Fortune 500,
> which means those not wealthy enough to q
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Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] NetApp and Oracle settle patent dispute over ZFS
Hi,
Given that computer software is just a series of mathematical operations
expressed in a form that can be interpreted by a processor, I find the whole
concept of software
Hi,
Given that computer software is just a series of mathematical operations
expressed in a form that can be interpreted by a processor, I find the whole
concept of software patents less than original.
Would it not be in the best interests of those individuals and organisations
using ZFS to fi
> Seems like Oracle Solaris users are safe, not sure if
> other companies using ZFS in their products.
> re also included. I'm not a lawyer:-)
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9I4EAR80
> .htm
I certainly hope the terms of the settlement are released.
Keeping it secret would cons
Seems like Oracle Solaris users are safe, not sure if other companies using
ZFS in their products.
are also included. I'm not a lawyer:-)
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9I4EAR80.htm
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