spy153,
The answer to your original question regarding the installation of
applications, is an emphatic NO! Solaris is NOT as easy as windows for the
installation of many applications.
Also, to be clear, the applications you run on Windows WILL NOT work on Solaris
without using some form of
Also, if everyone becomes savvy with UNIX (very
unlikely by the way), there would be a problem with
finding value with all of us Network Operations
Engineers, Systems Administrators, Enterprise
Architects, etc., and we're already in a bind, what
with all of this free code (for which we've
;)
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The trend in recent years is to make computers more
accessible to users
(it's always been a goal for general-purpose OSes
like Windows and
MacOS, it's being taken up by more UNIX and UNIX-like
OSes). The
marketplace doesn't want to have to rely on someone
with a phD to
administer/use
Who builds and installs that server in the average
person's home?
Multiple companies, competing with each other for the customer's money,
integrate the system together. A consumer (not a customer), buys it in their
local store, just like you'd buy a washing machine or a TV.
Obviously
(remember, you said no
internet).
Let me clarify:
- just because I run my applications via a web browser *does not* mean I have
to run them from the internet, nor does it mean all my data *must* reside
somewhere on the internet
- just because something is a server *does not* mean it has to
Hopefully by the time Solaris 11 will be released, it
will be a
professional distribution which has had attention
spent not only on the
technical aspects by the interface in which
administrators interact with
the operating system.
If it's a 'professional' distribution, then we don't need
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
... See:
http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
now more than ever which install clusters do/don't
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 03:53 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
Hopefully by the time Solaris 11 will be released, it
will be a
professional distribution which has had attention
spent not only on the
technical aspects by the interface in which
administrators interact with
the operating system.
And you know, the world doesn't revolve around over
paid UNIX admins
with craniums that reach to the ceilings. The vast
majority of companies
out there are small to medium size, less than 100
people with servers
being maintained by someone who has an IT
qualification from their local
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 03:53 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
The only thing is getting into the people's skulls that they *don't*
need a desktop, and that the network is the computer.
People who have regular, reliable access to a secure network may not
need a desktop, but for now, the rest of us do...
Calum Benson wrote:
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 03:53 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
The only thing is getting into the people's skulls that they *don't*
need a desktop, and that the network is the computer.
People who have regular, reliable access to a secure network may not
need a desktop, but
Making it easy to install and maintain lowers the
bar, ups the sales by
Sun in both hardware and software - all benefit from
this. Microsoft
didn't grab a huge marketshare because of Bills
sparkling personality -
I can bloody well assure you of that!
If the bar needs to be
People who have regular, reliable access to a secure
network may not
need a desktop, but for now, the rest of us do...
You are quite right - some problems are still present and need to be solved
before thin clients can become mainstream - like the problem of a portable thin
client. Right
The only thing is getting into the people's skulls
that they *don't* need a desktop, and that the
network is the computer.
You need to seriously re-examine that network is the computer chant, and how
well it jives with the world you've described... where you've robbed the
average person of
Plenty but comes unwilling to pay the huge amount -
IT is a cost centre,
it generates no money directly for the company.
I've witnessed a lot os such companies that regarded IT as just a cost center.
Most of them are either long history by now, going bankrupt or otherwise
struggling, all
You need to seriously re-examine that network is the
computer chant, and how well it jives with the
world you've described... where you've robbed the
average person of their computing power -- and their
choice -- simply because they're not an expert with
the OS *at hand*. The network is the
* UNIX admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You need to seriously re-examine that network is the
computer chant, and how well it jives with the
world you've described... where you've robbed the
average person of their computing power -- and their
choice -- simply because they're not an
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 11:35 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
Well, why must it be on the Internet?
Can't we have a server that sits in a living room or in a closet or in the
basement, which stores all our data on encrypted disks, centrally, secured by
ZFS?
Who builds and installs that server in the
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
... See:
http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
now more than ever which
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 11:57 -0700, Glenn Lagasse wrote:
* UNIX admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
You need to seriously re-examine that network is the
computer chant, and how well it jives with the
world you've described... where you've robbed the
average person of their computing power
On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 18:01 -0700, you dunno wrote:
I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not
work with my children's' media devices such as their cameras and mp3
players. Is it compatible? Also, a concern of mine is it as easy as
windows to install programs?
can we not take a look at project caiman now? I
would think that there is a
prototype stage at this point.
Yes, but it's not finished, and according to Dave Miner, it doesn't install
anything yet.
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On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 18:01 -0700, you dunno wrote:
I would like to start using solaris., however, I
am afraid it will not
work with my children's' media devices such as
their cameras and mp3
or just download it :
http://www.blastwave.org/wine/
/usr/local/? Surely you jest.
I might
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 08:06 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 18:01 -0700, you dunno wrote:
I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not
work with my children's' media devices such as their cameras and mp3
players. Is it compatible? Also, a
games-discuss seems to be the best place for people interested
in wine on OpenSolaris these days.
Via Jive forum:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=97
Via listserv (Mailman actually):
http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/games-discuss
UNIX admin wrote:
can we not take a look at project caiman now? I
would think that there is a
prototype stage at this point.
Yes, but it's not finished, and according to Dave Miner, it doesn't install
anything yet.
Old information. See:
Old information. See:
http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
That is the one I was referring to. You wrote yourself:
It's still rather rough, since the version of the UI package that I'm
using wasn't fully functional at the time I grabbed it.
In particular, you must
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
... See:
http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
now more than ever which install clusters do/don't contain
non-redistributable files (if
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
... See:
http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
now more than ever which install clusters do/don't contain
non-redistributable files (if
I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not work
with my children's' media devices such as their cameras and mp3 players. Is it
compatible? Also, a concern of mine is it as easy as windows to install
programs? (just install and setup? No codes, no muss, no fuss?)
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I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not work
with my
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