Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 17:47 -0500, BandiPat wrote: Simple solution to that problem. A call to the BSA to alert them to the company letting this happen. Watch how quickly they lock it down or change once a few fines are l

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-16 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: > Now we need to > generate spreadsheet from the web application that has merged cells in it. > > This time CSV format doesn't work, it cannot represent merged cells. > > I prefer not to create Excel formats

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/12/13 10:49 (GMT+0800) Zhang Weiwu apparently typed: > Felix Miata wrote: >> On 2007/12/12 13:43 (GMT+0800) Zhang Weiwu apparently typed: >>> Felix Miata suggested to use .wkl format which is created long before >>> ODF and even before Excel. >> .wkl != .wk1 >> Lotus 1-2-3 formats incl

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Felix Miata wrote: > On 2007/12/12 13:43 (GMT+0800) Zhang Weiwu apparently typed: > > >> Felix Miata suggested to use .wkl format which is created long before >> ODF and even before Excel. >> > > .wkl != .wk1 > > Lotus 1-2-3 formats include .wks, .wk1, .wk!, .wk3 and others. .wks is the > o

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 16:10 -, G T Smith wrote: I know it is so, because that's what they tell me when I try to convince somebody to switch. ... I understand M$ in their collective wisdom have already extensively revamped the interf

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 15:22 -, Russell Jones wrote: An anecdote. I took recently a course on a school. They had OOo in the computers, with windows. Some of these computers also had office, but not all. Later I learned that the scho

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Russell Jones
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 11:09 -, G T Smith wrote: ... IIRC that this was more than a bit of a problem between different versions of M$ Office Products, ("if M$ cannot get it right what hope for oo" could be an argumen

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 11:09 -, G T Smith wrote: > > ... > >> IIRC that this was more than a bit of a problem between different >> versions of M$ Office Products, ("if M$ cannot get it right what hope > >> Is

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 17:19 -0600, Bryen wrote: You guys are all missing the point of my anecdote since Carlos snipped out the last part of my original posting. In the end, while my friend disagreed with me that she would ever have to use Op

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 11:09 -, G T Smith wrote: ... IIRC that this was more than a bit of a problem between different versions of M$ Office Products, ("if M$ cannot get it right what hope for oo" could be an argument here, but I think a

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James D. Parra wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Bryen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:19 PM > To: opensuse@opensuse.org > Subject: Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format? > &g

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-12 Thread Russell Jones
Randall R Schulz wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:47, BandiPat wrote: ... Simple solution to that problem. A call to the BSA to alert them to the company letting this happen. Watch how quickly they lock it down or change once a few fines are levied. Does the BSA operate in Euro

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/12/12 13:43 (GMT+0800) Zhang Weiwu apparently typed: > Felix Miata suggested to use .wkl format which is created long before > ODF and even before Excel. .wkl != .wk1 Lotus 1-2-3 formats include .wks, .wk1, .wk!, .wk3 and others. .wks is the oldest. .wk1 is newer, but doesn't include mul

[SOLVED] Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Actually it's not "solved", it's I think I got the information I need: CSV file format do not support merged cells, that's when I start to look for alternative formats. Felix Miata suggested to use .wkl format which is created long before ODF and even before Excel. Kai Ponte suggested to use an

RE: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 15:57 -0800, James D. Parra wrote: Just wanted add my own experience with OO 2.x. Although I was able to get most of my users to use it, anyone who used the Writer and Impress (which doesn't) for anything with special pag

RE: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Bryen
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 15:57 -0800, James D. Parra wrote: > > Just wanted add my own experience with OO 2.x. Although I was able to get > most of my users to use it, anyone who used the Writer and Impress (which > doesn't) for anything with special page details and imbedded graphics were > sorely

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 17:47 -0500, BandiPat wrote: Simple solution to that problem. A call to the BSA to alert them to the company letting this happen. Watch how quickly they lock it down or change once a few fines are levied. No, I will n

RE: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread James D. Parra
-Original Message- From: Bryen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:19 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format? On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 17:47 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Carlos E. R. wr

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Sunny
On Dec 11, 2007 5:46 PM, Sunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 11, 2007 5:29 PM, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Does the BSA operate in Europe? > > > > Sadly, they do. > > Actually, it's not sadly, this adds to the "price" argument for using OOS. Cheers -- Svetoslav Mil

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 17:19 -0600, Bryen wrote: You guys are all missing the point of my anecdote since Carlos snipped out the last part of my original posting. In the end, while my friend disagreed with me that she would ever have to use Op

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Sunny
On Dec 11, 2007 5:29 PM, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does the BSA operate in Europe? > Sadly, they do. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:47, BandiPat wrote: > ... > > Simple solution to that problem. A call to the BSA to alert them to > the company letting this happen. Watch how quickly they lock it down > or change once a few fines are levied. Does the BSA operate in Europe? > Lee RRS -- To un

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Bryen
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 17:47 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 09:34 -0600, Bryen wrote: > > > A couple of months later, she called me complaining that OpenOffice > > > was too cumbersome and her daughter was complaining that she

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread BandiPat
On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: > The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 09:34 -0600, Bryen wrote: > > A couple of months later, she called me complaining that OpenOffice > > was too cumbersome and her daughter was complaining that she didn't > > understand it because everything she learned in

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 21:59 +0100, peter wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: (Don't argue with me, I'm all for OOo... the problem is "them") I don't argue with nobody. I just do my work in all OOo formats *only* let 'them' do convert the files. Ain

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread peter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote: > (Don't argue with me, I'm all for OOo... the problem is "them") I don't argue with nobody. I just do my work in all OOo formats *only* let 'them' do convert the files. Ain't no my business. I don't give a damn. ;) > So I remain

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 09:34 -0600, Bryen wrote: A couple of months later, she called me complaining that OpenOffice was too cumbersome and her daughter was complaining that she didn't understand it because everything she learned in her element

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Sloan
Bryen wrote: > > Last weekend, I had the pleasure of learning that her employer now > requires everyone to use OpenOffice and not MS Word. Smug > satisfaction? Yes indeed. > Ah, that warms the cockles of me heart - and at a time like this, who needs cold cockles? Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread kanenas
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 06:46:10 am Kai Ponte wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:22, James Knott wrote: > > > Never treid this but I'd heard good things... > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter > > > > > > ...in this manner your customers can open ODF files from within

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread James Knott
Kai Ponte wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:22, James Knott wrote: Never treid this but I'd heard good things... http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter ...in this manner your customers can open ODF files from within MS Office. I'll give it a shot today when I go to work to see what

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:22, James Knott wrote: > > Never treid this but I'd heard good things... > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter > > > > ...in this manner your customers can open ODF files from within MS > > Office. I'll give it a shot today when I go to work to see wh

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread James Knott
Kai Ponte wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:05, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: Usually when we work on web applications and offer user some spreadsheets for downloading, my primary choice is CSV format. This is because both Excel and OpenOff

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Bryen
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 22:19 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: > > Would it be possible to go ahead and use the best choice, odf, and > either allow them to use an add on for their MS Office, or co-install > OpenOffice. It is still a free solution, and is better in the long > run. Maybe they will

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 12/11/2007 09:05 PM, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: > > Usually when we work on web applications and offer user some > spreadsheets for downloading, my primary choice is CSV format. This is > because both Excel and OpenOffice users can open it.

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Dave Howorth
Kai Ponte wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:05, Zhang Weiwu wrote: >> Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: >> >> Usually when we work on web applications and offer user some >> spreadsheets for downloading, my primary choice is CSV format. This is >> because both Exce

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:05, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: > > Usually when we work on web applications and offer user some > spreadsheets for downloading, my primary choice is CSV format. This is > because both Excel and OpenOffice users c

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread M. Fioretti
On Tue, December 11, 2007 2:05 pm, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: I'd suggest subscribing to the OpenOffice spreadsheet dev or users lists at: http://sc.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList;jsessionid=373696F3127567BADF0DDD1DCC08A4AF

Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/12/11 21:05 (GMT+0800) Zhang Weiwu apparently typed: > Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: > Usually when we work on web applications and offer user some > spreadsheets for downloading, my primary choice is CSV format. This is > because both Excel and OpenOffice

[opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2007-12-11 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Dear all, this is OT but I am not sure where to ask about it: Usually when we work on web applications and offer user some spreadsheets for downloading, my primary choice is CSV format. This is because both Excel and OpenOffice users can open it. Now we need to generate spreadsheet from the web ap