Kai Ponte wrote:
> On Sat, June 16, 2007 12:29 pm, James Knott wrote:
>
>>
>> No, TCP/IP doesn't run on OSI, but the OSI model is often used to help
>> understand other stacks.
>>
>
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong - and I know this is going way OT - but ALL
> transport protocols run in the OSI.
On Saturday 16 June 2007 21:42, Kai Ponte wrote:
> On Sat, June 16, 2007 12:29 pm, James Knott wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > No, TCP/IP doesn't run on OSI, but the OSI model is often used to
> > help understand other stacks.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong - and I know this is going way OT - but ALL
> transpo
On Sat, June 16, 2007 12:29 pm, James Knott wrote:
> Kai Ponte wrote:
>> On Fri, June 15, 2007 2:19 pm, James Knott wrote:
>>
>>
I didn't know they had IP drivers for token ring. We're using some
netBIOS sort of thing, AFAIK.
>>> You apparently get some layers of the protoc
Kai Ponte wrote:
> On Fri, June 15, 2007 2:19 pm, James Knott wrote:
>
>
>>> I didn't know they had IP drivers for token ring. We're using some
>>> netBIOS sort of thing, AFAIK.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You apparently get some layers of the protocol stack mixed up.
>>
>
>
> OSI layers? Man, I
On Fri, June 15, 2007 2:19 pm, James Knott wrote:
>>
>> I didn't know they had IP drivers for token ring. We're using some
>> netBIOS sort of thing, AFAIK.
>>
>>
> You apparently get some layers of the protocol stack mixed up.
OSI layers? Man, I haven't looked at those in years. In any case,
TC
> On Friday 15 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
>> I cannot believe you could make such an uninformed
>> comment - DO you really think that large data entres
>> have a bunch of clustered Windows Servers?
>>SNA/Token Ring is still the preferred method for
large> data centre's topology because
Dear James,
Yes we both know that improvements have been made and
you have indicate a great knowledge of the groups of
protocols we know as TCP/IP. I agree we have made
inroads since the early inception of the protocols -
however you understand that - Particularly Windows
relies on the ability we
Kai Ponte wrote:
> On Fri, June 15, 2007 12:09 pm, James Knott wrote:
>
>
>>> As an example, in order to increase the security (by obscurity) of
>>> our
>>> voting tally systems, we use Token Ring on all election tally
>>> systems.
>>> There's only one machine with a token ring/ethernet bridge u
On Fri, June 15, 2007 12:09 pm, James Knott wrote:
>> As an example, in order to increase the security (by obscurity) of
>> our
>> voting tally systems, we use Token Ring on all election tally
>> systems.
>> There's only one machine with a token ring/ethernet bridge used to
>> pass data out.
>>
>
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thu, June 14, 2007 10:07 pm, John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 14 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
In Australia we will NOT use TCP/IP for government or
direct Banking requirements. Thats why do don't worry
about massive amounts of data being hijacked.
H
On Thu, June 14, 2007 10:07 pm, John Andersen wrote:
> On Thursday 14 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
>> In Australia we will NOT use TCP/IP for government or
>> direct Banking requirements. Thats why do don't worry
>> about massive amounts of data being hijacked.
>
> Huh?
> No on line banki
On Thursday 14 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
> In Australia we will NOT use TCP/IP for government or
> direct Banking requirements. Thats why do don't worry
> about massive amounts of data being hijacked.
Huh?
No on line banking in Australia? Could have fooled me.
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Registration Account wrote:
> TCP/IP I am sorry will go down in history as the most
> insecure and worst collection of protocols ever conceived.
>
>
Some protocols aren't that great. Others are fine and some have
The best defence any can mount about issues they don't
understand is attack - how predictable we all are. This
entry is neither helpful nor constructive.
Michael Nelson wrote:
> Geeze, it's so fun to watch a bunch of old guys arguing about whos dick is
> older.
>
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TCP/IP I am sorry will go down in history as the most
insecure and worst collection of protocols ever conceived.
The origins of TCP/IP are well know as it was created
by the US Government and bell Labs in 1979. It was to
provide a vehicle that could network US Military
missile silos and internal c
Geeze, it's so fun to watch a bunch of old guys arguing about whos dick is
older.
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James Knott wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> The Wednesday 2007-06-13 at 23:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Another roaring success story. Gad what a hopelessly
>>> complex and expensive network. The sad part is they
>>> "invented" it while the unix world was happily running
>>>
Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Wednesday 2007-06-13 at 23:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
>
> > Another roaring success story. Gad what a hopelessly
> > complex and expensive network. The sad part is they
> > "invented" it while the unix world was happily running
> > TCP/IP.
>
> Token ring was invent
G T Smith wrote:
>
> At that time with a 4/16Mb bandwidth range, dual ring tolerance (you had
> to chop the cable twice to break the ring) and a very stable loading
> characteristic, it was a faster and more reliable option than ethernet
> at a max of 10Mbs. Token Ring networks only tended to slow
John Andersen wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
>
>> and IBM invented
>> token ring
>>
>
> Another roaring success story. Gad what a hopelessly
> complex and expensive network. The sad part is they
> "invented" it while the unix world was happily running
> T
John Andersen wrote:
>
> The original PCs and ATs were built like tanks, and I still have
> the IBM AT bios manual.
>
>
>> Yes they sell PC's
>> http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03004c/businesscenter/smallbusiness/us/en/product
>>
>
> They still sell servers, and they pretend to sell high end work
Registration Account wrote:
> John are probably be too young to recall the first
> Personal Computer was released in the form of PS2 -
> with advanced architecture called micro channel.
>
Actually, the PS/2 came later. The first of the "PC" types, was of
course the IBM PC, which had an 8088 CP
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The Wednesday 2007-06-13 at 23:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> Another roaring success story. Gad what a hopelessly
> complex and expensive network. The sad part is they
> "invented" it while the unix world was happily running
> TCP/IP.
Token ri
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 23:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
> > and IBM invented
> > token ring
>
> Another roaring success story. Gad what a hopelessly
> complex and expensive network. The sad part is they
> "invented" it while the unix world
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John Andersen wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
>> and IBM invented
>> token ring
>
> Another roaring success story. Gad what a hopelessly
> complex and expensive network. The sad part is they
> "invented" it while the
Other security issues involved with pre-install Dell
Windows XP - Dell PC that have the pre load installed
at factory contain a dell login that needs to be
disabled, along Ms support Login and anonymous login,
these, particular user accounts need to have these
accounts disabled. You can only find t
On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
> and IBM invented
> token ring
Another roaring success story. Gad what a hopelessly
complex and expensive network. The sad part is they
"invented" it while the unix world was happily running
TCP/IP.
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On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
> John are probably be too young to recall the first
> Personal Computer was released in the form of PS2 -
Thank you (I think) for chopping 30 years off my age.
As I recall, the PS2 was at least the third generation of
IBM PCs. There was t
On Thursday 14 June 2007 01:09, Registration Account wrote:
> John are probably be too young
my comments on opensuse-offtopic list,...
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John are probably be too young to recall the first
Personal Computer was released in the form of PS2 -
with advanced architecture called micro channel.
The because the standard that all clone PC's were
designed around. In the early days Clone PC were always
boasting as being 100% IBM computable.
On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Registration Account wrote:
> I have
> never found 1 dell PC that comes close to being 100%
> IBM compatible -
Not surprising, since IBM does not make PCs.
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Thanks randall,
I should have worked that out for myself. I was
browsing and downloading files from dell.com for a
troublesome dell PC (No surprises there, as I have
never found 1 dell PC that comes close to being 100%
IBM compatible - due to their amazing number of
BIOS/Chipboard drivers which ar
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 15:46, Registration Account wrote:
> Can anyone out there tell me what is a Prosiak
> Back-door connection in Linux. This is a copy of the
> first IDS connection which I think is only applicable
> to Unix/Linux
From what I can tell from Google searching (ahem), this is an
Can anyone out there tell me what is a Prosiak
Back-door connection in Linux. This is a copy of the
first IDS connection which I think is only applicable
to Unix/Linux
Thanks
Scott
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