On Saturday 18 November 2006 12:56, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 21:16, JJ Gitties wrote:
I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you
find that there is no equivalent or similar or even better
corresponding feature that may be found
IMHO, Its not the installation part of yast that is so good, its all the
other tasks it does, organized into one place.
Ubuntu has a good installer. Heck, even Red Hat has a
good installer.
agreed. actually the Ubu installers kicks SUSE ass. But Yast used to
have the all the tasks in one
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 22:01 -0600, M Harris wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 21:16, JJ Gitties wrote:
I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you find
that there is no equivalent or similar or even better corresponding feature
that may be found in other major
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 16:11 -0600, M Harris wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:00, JJ Gitties wrote:
*We* need to convince OpenSUSE to fork, or let 'em die. To bad, it is a
wonderful Distro. But their parent company is NOT our friend.
Sad, but true.
Isn't it interesting...
On 2006-11-14 23:10, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:23, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
So please, name one that is equivalent to SuSE, and does things better.
I don't think one can point to any distro and say it does EVERYTHING better
than any other.
I just did a
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2006-11-14 23:10, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:23, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
So please, name one that is equivalent to SuSE, and does things better.
I don't think one can point to any distro and say it does EVERYTHING
Tony Alfrey wrote:
M Harris wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 21:16, JJ Gitties wrote:
I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you
find
that there is no equivalent or similar or even better corresponding
feature
that may be found in other major distro's or
James Knott wrote:
Tony Alfrey wrote:
M Harris wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 21:16, JJ Gitties wrote:
I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you
find
that there is no equivalent or similar or even better corresponding
feature
that may be found in other major
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 11:12, you wrote:
But if you are claiming that Yast is the be all and end all of linux mgtm
tools/features and no ther distro has anything that comes close --
No... its not the end all of linux mgmt tool/features...
Yes... no other distro has
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 07:01, houghi wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 11:28:22PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
...
I for one am not going to spend more money on Novell either, until I
am very convinced that this really *is* a good deal for OSS and
freedom as in speech.
Either? I
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 10:10, JJ Gitties wrote:
On 11/14/06, J Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
among them a major auto manufacturer, a shipping firm, banks and finance
companies and web consultants, and I'm happy to report that I'm simply
not seeing anything like the gloomy
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 05:52:21AM +0700, Matt T. wrote:
Now that says a lot about you.
I put my money where my mouth is, and did buy the boxes (until now). Even if
I
had downloaded the software before. For me that is a question of respect.
Respect of the immense work these nice folks at
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 01:58, John wrote:
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2006-11-14 23:10, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:23, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
So please, name one that is equivalent to SuSE, and does things better.
I don't think one can point to any distro
On Nov 12, 06 20:47:43 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise).
We cannot exploit the deal for
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 01:09, JJ Gitties wrote:
what you are seeing here is blind SUSE and Novell support. Blindly
supproting SUSE I can kind of understand. But blindly supporting Novell
corp I can't. I will assume that these people were not around or did not
bother to dig up all the dirt
On 11/14/06, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am blindly waiting for you to go over to the Red Hat mailing lists and startscreaming about their contracts with IBM, who did far worse than anyone,including Microsoft, in their dayWhy would I do that. I don't use Red Hat. I really couldn't
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 19:35, JJ Gitties wrote:
I am not trying to shut down anyone. I am also in the wait and see camp.
With your comments about lying to people you talk to, and general
trollishness, you could have fooled me
I am however bitching about the decision. I guess somewhere in
2006/11/14, JJ Gitties [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 11/14/06, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am blindly waiting for you to go over to the Red Hat mailing lists and startscreaming about their contracts with IBM, who did far worse than anyone,including Microsoft, in their day
Why would I do
On 11/14/06, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 19:35, JJ Gitties wrote: I am not trying to shut down anyone. I am also in the wait and see camp.With your comments about lying to people you talk to, and general
trollishness, you could have fooled meLets clarify
On 2006-11-14 13:46, JJ Gitties wrote:
On 11/14/06, *Anders Johansson* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 19:35, JJ Gitties wrote:
I am not trying to shut down anyone. I am also in the wait and
see camp.
With your comments about
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:57, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
Version 6.3 was my first, and no other distro has ever
graced my system.
Hmmm, then it would seem your credentials are less than stellar as well.
Why don't you get out a little more? To hear you talk there is only one
true path.
Tue, 14 Nov 2006, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 11:28:22PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
You can try to be as positive as you like about this deal houghi,
but in the end you know just as well as the rest that MS is not in
it to make nice with OSS community or anyone
On 11/14/06, Darryl Gregorash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just where have you been?Munich, 2003: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1010740.htmlBergen, 2004:
http://www.networktimes.co.za/news.asp?pklNewsID=15337pklIssueID=433pklCategoryID=309Dundee, 2004: http://www.novell.com/success/dundee.pdfCornwall
On 11/14/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was looking for a good distro when I found Suse, and good asSuse is, its not the ONLY one out there, and its not the only oneI use.damn right!! i run freebsd on an old laptop. i run suse
8.2 on another old laptop. i also run mac osx on
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:00, JJ Gitties wrote:
*We* need to convince OpenSUSE to fork, or let 'em die. To bad, it is a
wonderful Distro. But their parent company is NOT our friend.
Sad, but true.
Isn't it interesting... that nobody ever talks about M$ forking
JJ Gitties wrote:
You are such a door knob.
Lets establish something. Germany is SUSE country. North America is
Microsoft country. I would say that North America is Novell country as
well if they have NetWare -- but thats gone. I don't know where you are
based, but where I am based, which
On 2006-11-14 15:09, John Andersen wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 11:57, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
Version 6.3 was my first, and no other distro has ever
graced my system.
Hmmm, then it would seem your credentials are less than stellar as well.
Put that remark back into the
On 2006-11-14 15:44, JJ Gitties wrote:
On 11/14/06, *Darryl Gregorash* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just where have you been?
Munich, 2003: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1010740.html
Bergen, 2004:
On 11/14/06, J Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for your opinion. it's not an opinion.it a fact based on my own personal observation. i really have not met anyone who deplyed SLES. up here Novell have these free seminars that IT guys go to because, well its free, the food is better than
On 11/14/06, Darryl Gregorash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So please, name one that is equivalent to SuSE, and does things better.I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you find that there is no equivalent or similar or even better corresponding feature that may be found in
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 21:16, JJ Gitties wrote:
I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you find
that there is no equivalent or similar or even better corresponding feature
that may be found in other major distro's or products?
Yast
--
Kind regards,
M
M Harris wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 21:16, JJ Gitties wrote:
I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you find
that there is no equivalent or similar or even better corresponding feature
that may be found in other major distro's or products?
Yast
I'm
On 2006-11-14 21:10, JJ Gitties wrote:
snip
dinky hosts that provide NTP, FTP and nagios I don't personally
consider major Linux deployments... but to each their own.
Would you consider the Michigan State Police and Indiana Department of
Education to be major deployments?
--
JJ Gitties wrote:
On 11/14/06, *J Sloan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I introduced linux to this company back in the 1990s, as I set up
slackware, then redhat boxes, as secondary mail/dns, and also introduced
the big brother monitoring system on linux.
On Nov 14, 2006, at 10:51 PM, J Sloan wrote:
dinky hosts that provide NTP, FTP and nagios I don't personally
consider
major Linux deployments... but to each their own.
Well, this is about as retarded a statement as I've seen on this list
in years. I'll have you know that my company runs
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:23, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
So please, name one that is equivalent to SuSE, and does things better.
I don't think one can point to any distro and say it does EVERYTHING better
than any other.
There are several based on Debian/Ubuntu that at this particular
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 22:18, Tony Alfrey wrote:
I'm sorry, but I've had more hassles with YAST than it's worth. Before
there was YAST, there was rpm from a command line that seemed to work
with much greater ease and reliability. Just my $.02.
You've got to be kidding
You
Darryl Gregorash a écrit :
On 2006-11-12 14:47, jdd wrote:
Darryl Gregorash a écrit :
it's not even necessary to include it in the distrib, only being
allowed to explain all the possible links officially on the wiki would
be nice, but I fear this will not be possible
You could always edit
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
exists (on packman
Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise).
2006/11/13, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote: Hi all ! Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions...
Basil Chupin wrote:
Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions...
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 11:55:17PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
This link was posted in another forum:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061107194320461
As many people, Grocklaw is not pro-OSS or pro-Linux or pro-GPL. It is
just Anti-Microsoft. Yes, there is a HUGE difference. The
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 11:28:22PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
You can try to be as positive as you like about this deal houghi,
but in the end you know just as well as the rest that MS is not in
it to make nice with OSS community or anyone supporting OSS for
that matter, they're it it to
On 11/13/06, Theo v. Werkhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can try to be as positive as you like about this deal houghi,but in the end you know just as well as the rest that MS is not init to make nice with OSS community or anyone supporting OSS for
that matter, they're it it to find some way to
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which is
solved now).
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On Sunday 12 November 2006 13:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Its my understanding that the agreement was for enterprise only.
of course I could be way off base, as sometimes I am known to be lol.
I dont think we will ever see microsoft codecs as
Alexey Eremenko schrieb:
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:57, Andreas Hanke wrote:
That's why you won't get the codecs legally for free: Whoever licenses
them from MS has no other choice than charging for it, the lack of a
flat fee makes it impossible.
I don't think this is true though, RealPlayer will include the codecs
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
exists (on packman
Anders Johansson schrieb:
I don't think this is true though, RealPlayer will include the codecs in an
upcoming version, and from what I hear it will be distributed free-of-charge
just like before
Yeah, that's because Real gets a flat fee for 0$ because of the lawsuit
in Europe, but all
Anders Johansson a écrit :
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The
On 2006-11-12 13:44, jdd wrote:
Anders Johansson a écrit :
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE
Hi all !
Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which is
solved
On 2006-11-12 14:47, jdd wrote:
Darryl Gregorash a écrit :
it's not even necessary to include it in the distrib, only being
allowed to explain all the possible links officially on the wiki would
be nice, but I fear this will not be possible
You could always edit the wiki and see how long it
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