EJB2.0 spec or implementation?

2001-12-28 Thread Aaron Tavistock
I've toyed with EJBs for quite a while, all the way back to 1.0. But so far its been too cumbersome and offered little gain in most environments I've been working in (e.g. the overhead of remote calls, etc, outweighed the potential benefits). Now with the 2.0 spec its gotten to a good place

Re: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation?

2001-12-28 Thread Hani Suleiman
On 28/12/01 12:56 pm, Aaron Tavistock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So heres the story - database field names are case insensitive, so common parlance for representing a space is an underscore (e.g. 'this_field'). Nope. MS SQLServer is not case insensitive. You could always tweak orion-ejb-jar.xml

Re: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation?

2001-12-28 Thread Robert S. Sfeir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neither is Oracle. Oracle actually stores all its DB Fields upper case, but it doesn't matter how you refer to then, meaning select column1 from Table or select Column1 from table or select COLUMN1 FROM TABLE Doesn't make a difference. R At

RE: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation?

2001-12-28 Thread Aaron Tavistock
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aaron Tavistock Subject: Re: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation? On 28/12/01 12:56 pm, Aaron Tavistock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So heres the story - database field names are case insensitive, so common parlance for representing a space is an underscore (e.g

RE: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation?

2001-12-28 Thread Aaron Tavistock
). -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:32 PM To: Aaron Tavistock; Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation? On 28/12/01 3:20 pm, Aaron Tavistock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More

RE: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation?

2001-12-28 Thread Patrick Lightbody
- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:26 AM To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aaron Tavistock Subject: Re: [orion-interest]EJB2.0 spec or implementation? On 28/12/01 12:56 pm, Aaron Tavistock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So heres the story

EJB2.0 CMR don't work :-((

2001-10-18 Thread Stefan Marx
Hi, I've tried a simple EJB2.0 Realationship with Orion 1.5.3 and it failed. For me it seems that the orion server simply ignores my Relationship (no additional fields or table is generated :-((( Here's the snippet from my ejb-jar.xml relationships !-- This file is included by the process

Orion and EJB2.0 (EJB QL)

2001-10-17 Thread Stefan Marx
Hi, currently I have to decide wich way to go with a new EJB Project. We need some App-Server independance so we have to decide if we should use CMP with the EJB2.0 Relationships and QL or BMP with our own SQL-Statements. Is there any information available when Orion will support EJB2.0

RE: Orion and EJB2.0 (EJB QL)

2001-10-17 Thread Curt Smith
Is there any information available when Orion will support EJB2.0 and EJB QL My thoughts on CMP vs BMP: On my project I went with BMP + DAO patterns + business deligates at the client tier that deligate reads to the much more efficient DAO's (direct access to the DB) and updates

EJB2.0

2001-07-10 Thread Chris Roffler
Does anybody know when we can expect to see the EJB2.0 features like , ejbSelect, local interfaces etc in Orion ? Thanks Chris __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

transaction using EJB2.0 example or white paper

2001-04-26 Thread Nenad Momcilovic
...I would appreciate any links to a white paper or examples that show transaction use in the session beans Tx!

Re: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-13 Thread Peter Pontbriand
- Original Message - From: "Jeff Schnitzer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 4:57 PM Subject: RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable FYI, as a workaround, you can make bidirectional relationships work by m

Re: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-11 Thread Peter Pontbriand
- Original Message - From: "Tim Drury" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 5:39 PM Subject: RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable Since your bean is called "Foo" I'm going to guess that it is a tr

RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-11 Thread Juan Lorandi (Chile)
; } and so on for Identity, and all other fields HTH JP -Original Message- From: Peter Pontbriand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Lunes, 11 de Diciembre de 2000 13:38 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable - Original Message - From: "Tim Drury&qu

Re: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-11 Thread Peter Pontbriand
EJB2.0 DTD _is_ specified in ejb-jar.xml ... ejb-jar.xml is: - ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE ejb-jar PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Enterprise JavaBeans 2.0//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/ejb-jar_2_0.dtd" P.Pontbriand Canlink Interactive Technologies Inc.

RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-11 Thread Tim Drury
In EJB 2.0 gets/sets are declared abstract. The container implements them for you. -tim -Original Message- From: Juan Lorandi (Chile) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 1:42 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable geez

RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-11 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:43 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable I don't think we've ever cleared up whether this is needed or not: in ejb-jar.xml: entity cmp-version2.x/cmp-version ... Your bar ejb seems to reference

RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-08 Thread Tim Drury
nt: Friday, December 08, 2000 4:03 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable Hello All. We've just written our first pair of 2.0-spec EJBs and are experiencing some really strange problems deploying them. Orion 1.4.4 auto-generates the DB tables for these b

RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-08 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
I've been using EJB2.0 beans (including container managed relationships) with considerable success for several months now. It works (mostly). Don't give up :-) I haven't seen that particular error message, but I have noticed that occasionally Orion screws up the deployment and forgets

Re: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-08 Thread Serge Knystautas
- Original Message - From: "Peter Pontbriand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've just written our first pair of 2.0-spec EJBs and are experiencing some really strange problems deploying them. Orion 1.4.4 auto-generates the DB tables for these beans, but then spits out the following message for

RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-08 Thread Juan Lorandi (Chile)
use autoupdate or find it in http://www.orionserver.com/orion/orion.jar use at own risk! (actually, 1.4.4 is VERY stable) -Original Message- From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Viernes, 08 de Diciembre de 2000 20:48 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: EJB2.0 Generated

EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-08 Thread Peter Pontbriand
Hello All. We've just written our first pair of 2.0-spec EJBs and are experiencing some really strange problems deploying them. Orion 1.4.4 auto-generates the DB tables for these beans, but then spits out the following message for every CMP field in each EJB:

RE: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-08 Thread Scott Stirling
Take the version you have and do: cd $ORION_HOME java -jar autoupdate.jar This will pull down the latest released build from Orion. Pretty sweet feature. Scott Stirling West Newton, MA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Serge Knystautas

Re: EJB2.0 Generated class uncompilable

2000-12-08 Thread Jim Archer
You might want to go to: http://www.orionsupport.com And grab the simple EJB 2.0 sample... Jim --On Friday, December 08, 2000 4:02 PM -0500 Peter Pontbriand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All. We've just written our first pair of 2.0-spec EJBs and are experiencing some really strange

EJB2.0 help

2000-11-21 Thread Saphari.com - www.saphari.com
I am trying to learn EJB 2.0 with orion and am having some problems getting a 1:1 dependant object to load. I have traced it done to the dependant object, because if i deploy the bean without the dependant object it deploys fine. but when i try to deploy with the dependant object i get this

Bug 153 filed for dependent object bi relationships failing on EJB2.0

2000-10-30 Thread Jim Archer
And I just filed bug 153 reporting that EJB 2.0 dependent object bidirectional relationships fail. I attached a sample program to the bug for anyone who would like to try it out for themselves. Jim --On Monday, October 30, 2000 3:58 AM -0500 Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've

RE: support EJB2.0 or not?

2000-10-19 Thread Jim Archer
making extensive use of EJB2.0 beans. Tim, you probably are missing something important in the deployment descriptor. It's hard to say what without seeing it. Do you have cmp-version 2.x /cmp-version in your entity block? You should post your descriptor if you would like further help

RE: support EJB2.0 or not?

2000-10-19 Thread Tim Drury
That's what I thought, but I cannot find the ejb2 DTD. Can you point me in the right direction? -tim -Original Message- From: Reddy Krishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 6:51 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: support EJB2.0 or not? you

support EJB2.0 or not?

2000-10-18 Thread Tim Drury
When I try to write a 2.0 compliant entity bean: public abstract class ContactBean implement EntityBean { public abstract void setName(String s); public abstract String getName(); ... } Orion throws the error (at deployment): ... Bean class com.tfc.ejb.ContactBean must not be

RE: support EJB2.0 or not?

2000-10-18 Thread John D'Ausilio
: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:18 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: support EJB2.0 or not? When I try to write a 2.0 compliant entity bean: public abstract class ContactBean implement EntityBean { public abstract void setName(String s); public abstract String getName

RE: support EJB2.0 or not?

2000-10-18 Thread John D'Ausilio
I believe the difference is in which dtd you specify in the deployment descriptor DOCTYPE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Drury Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 5:21 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: support EJB2.0

I get null pointer exception after calling create on an EB with EJB2.0 CMP Orion 1.3.8...

2000-10-15 Thread Jim Archer
Hi All... I'm using Orion 1.3.8 and EJB 2.0 for CMP. I have written a fairley simple stateless session bean that's job is to just create a particular entity bean and populate it. This session bean is called from a servlet. When the session bean calls create on the home interface object of

Stupid EJB2.0 build question

2000-09-30 Thread Jim Archer
Hi All... I'm trying to build the ATM example that came with Orion 1.3.8. The stupid build question is, what do I have to put in the CLASSPATH to get it to build? I can't get the AccountEJB.java file to build, since it can't find javax.ejb. I expect I don't include anything from the J2EE RI,

Re: Stupid EJB2.0 build question - NEVER MIND!

2000-09-30 Thread Jim Archer
OOPS... Never mind. It was a stupid question. Sorry for wasting your bandwidth. Jim --On Saturday, September 30, 2000 10:45 PM -0400 Jim Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All... I'm trying to build the ATM example that came with Orion 1.3.8. The stupid build question is, what do I have

AW: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-25 Thread Haeussler, Heinz
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http:\\www.eurocopter.com http://www.eurocopter.com/ -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Magnus Rydin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 21. September 2000 12:05 An: Orion-Interest Betreff: RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Well, its basicall

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-25 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Hi Heinz. Your are correct. The update of the ATM to EJB 2.0 left some unwanted remains. It will be updated. WR -Original Message- From: Haeussler, Heinz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 25 september 2000 07:59 To: Orion-Interest

Re: Can't deploy EJB2.0 bean

2000-09-22 Thread Matthew Domarotsky
to be in META-INF (uppercase), like so: META-INF/ejb-jar.xml Hope this helps, Matt Vimal Kansal wrote: Hi, I am trying to deploy a very simple EJB2.0 bean. But everytime I get the message : unable to find/read assembly info for emp.jar(META-INF/ejb-jar.xml) I ahve also attached my jar file

Re: Can't deploy EJB2.0 bean

2000-09-22 Thread Vimal Kansal
, Matt Vimal Kansal wrote: Hi, I am trying to deploy a very simple EJB2.0 bean. But everytime I get the message : unable to find/read assembly info for emp.jar(META-INF/ejb-jar.xml) I ahve also attached my jar file to this mail. Please help me. Vimal

RE: Can't deploy EJB2.0 bean

2000-09-22 Thread Goel, Deepak
-Interest Subject: Re: Can't deploy EJB2.0 bean I am looking on counter.jar through winzip on an NT machine. Try doing it on an NT machine. Moreoever, I checked my other jars which I deploy on weblogic server, they also have meta-inf as against META-INF and they work. Vimal --- Matthew Domarotsky

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread Christian Sell
well, maybe there IS no avail. Not many of us have done EJB 2.0 yet, and as far as the orion core team goes, I hope (!!) they are busy writing documentation for the basic stuff (and improving orion in their spare time). actually, I was trying to refer to documentation that covers the basic

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Doesn't the use of the Address dependent object in the Person remote interface violate section 9.4.11 of the EJB2.0 spec? Specifically: - The Bean Provider must not expose the dependent object classes or the persistent Collection classes that are used in container managed relationships

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Hopefully, the future documentation that will look at one piece at the time, will make this application more usefull. The way it is right now, is more for advanced users to find an example of a certain functionality. It will continue to include as many

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread S.Badrinarayanan
s possible, but it will be given a documentation to make life easier for ppl. WR -Original Message- From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 21 september 2000 05:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Yeah, I know - and the example app

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread S.Badrinarayanan
s possible, but it will be given a documentation to make life easier for ppl. WR -Original Message- From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 21 september 2000 05:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Yeah, I know - and the example app

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
- From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 21 september 2000 05:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Yeah, I know - and the example apps are good, but they're more than I'd like. (Incidentally, the ATM has been EJB 2.0 f

SV: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread Klaus . Myrseth
to use EJB2.0 on Orion need to pay i believe as we have 1.3.3 licensed version sanjay - Original Message - From: "S.Badrinarayanan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:00

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread Chris Woods
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 12:00:25PM +, S.Badrinarayanan wrote: I am intersted in 2 points mentioned below: 1. How do I get the 1.3.8 version; their server (www.orionserver.com) shows only 1.2.9 as the latest. from your orion rot installation directory: java -jar autoupdate.jar 2. Where

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread Ernst de Haan
WR -Original Message- From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 21 september 2000 05:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Yeah, I know - and the example apps are good, but they're more than I'd like. (Incidentall

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread S.Badrinarayanan
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 21 september 2000 05:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Yeah, I know - and the example apps are good, but they're more than I'd like. (Incidentally, the ATM has been EJB 2.0 for a while now.) I like

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-21 Thread S.Badrinarayanan
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 21 september 2000 05:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Yeah, I know - and the example apps are good, but they're more than I'd like. (Incidentally, the ATM has been EJB 2.0 for a while now.) I like

How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Vimal Kansal
Please for God's sake some benevolent soul do reply to this mail. I have been sending this mail for quite some time but to no avail. Can somebody send me the source code of EJB2.0 based ATM example or any other example of how to use EJB2.0 on Orion. I am running version 1.3.1 and the ATM that has

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Nick Newman
nd has pairs of abstract get/set methods instead of data fields for the persistent fields. Nick At 10:19 AM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote: Please for God's sake some benevolent soul do reply to this mail. I have been sending this mail for quite some time but to no avail. Can somebody send me the source

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Reddy Krishnan
Vimal, 1.3.1 supports ejb2.0 beans in the ejb-jar.xml use DOCTYPE as !DOCTYPE ejb-jar PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Enterprise JavaBeans 1.1//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/ejb-jar_2_0.dtd" instead of ejb-jar_1_1.dtd. Follow the ejb2.0 specs on abstract get

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Christian Sell
I have been sending this mail for quite some time but to no avail. well, maybe there IS no avail. Not many of us have done EJB 2.0 yet, and as far as the orion core team goes, I hope (!!) they are busy writing documentation for the basic stuff (and improving orion in their spare time). regards

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Vimal Kansal
ds. Nick At 10:19 AM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote: Please for God's sake some benevolent soul do reply to this mail. I have been sending this mail for quite some time but to no avail. Can somebody send me the source code of EJB2.0 based ATM example or any other example of how to use EJB2

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Vimal Kansal
Thanks a lot Krishnan Vimal --- Reddy Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vimal, 1.3.1 supports ejb2.0 beans in the ejb-jar.xml use DOCTYPE as !DOCTYPE ejb-jar PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Enterprise JavaBeans 1.1//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/ejb-jar_2_

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
Don't forget that EJB 2.0 isn't a standard yet. It's a draft. Personally, I'm mucking about with it a bit, and the parts I'm most interested in - the OR mapping - I've not really covered, so I'm in the same boat of wanting more information, but let's be real about it. It's not there unless we

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread jiten patankar
have you looked at this site www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/ -Original Message- From: Vimal Kansal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:19 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion Please for God's sake some benevolent soul do reply

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Vimal Kansal
I jsu upgraded to Orion 1.3.8. And guess what ? :- it has the EJB2.0 based ATM application :-) Vimal --- "Joseph B. Ottinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that EJB 2.0 isn't a standard yet. It's a draft. Personally, I'm mucking about with it a bit, and the parts I'm most

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Nick Newman
I gather the ATM EJB 2.0 app is out now - but perhaps a very simple app will still be useful. See attached. The only problem I have had with EJB 2.0 in Orion is trying to do a 1-1 mapping to a dependent class. Nick At 12:43 PM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote: Thanks a lot Nick. Can you also send me

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Vimal Kansal
EVen if you specify the multiplicity other than 1? vimal --- Nick Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather the ATM EJB 2.0 app is out now - but perhaps a very simple app will still be useful. See attached. The only problem I have had with EJB 2.0 in Orion is trying to do a 1-1 mapping

RE: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Reddy Krishnan
to refer to beans deployed in another ejb-jar file in relationships? thanks much, Krishnan -Original Message- From: Vimal Kansal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:04 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion EVen if you specify

Re: How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-20 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
ion 1.3.8. And guess what ? :- it has the EJB2.0 based ATM application :-) Vimal --- "Joseph B. Ottinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that EJB 2.0 isn't a standard yet. It's a draft. Personally, I'm mucking about with it a bit, and the parts I'm most interested in - th

How to use EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-18 Thread Vimal Kansal
Can somebody point to me in the right direction on how to use EJB2.0 on Orion? I did update my Orion to 1.3.6 but still my ATM application is EJB1.1 stuff.Where is the EJB2.0 version? TIA Vimal Kansal __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email

Example of using EJB2.0 on Orion

2000-09-05 Thread Vimal Kansal
Can somebody show me some sample application on how to setup/use EJB2.0 on orion.? TIA Vimal Kansal __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

EJB2.0 again

2000-09-04 Thread Udo Christ
Help, what am i doing wrong. I cant get any CMR/CMP Beans to run. If tried it either using Orions OR or the preliminary EJB2.0 way. The database gets autocreated, I can create any EJB instances using the Home interfaces. When i find a Parent with a Set of childs and access that Set my client