[OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Bernhard Weber
Hi again The last years I was again and again discussing adequate wording of our "interventions" as consultants, facilitators (in German: ModeratorInnen, BegleiterInnen), trainers... With myself and others. There was the classical "Change Management" (Consultancy) which we substituted by Chan

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Bernhard Weber
Yes Harrison, I think this is one of the central points, To see all interventions/events, especially OS events as an integrated part of an ongoing complex (overall self-organized) process, a stream with a sequence, ... a sequence, where we find an adequate point of going into the stream, becomin

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Suzanne Daigle
Diane...yes it is you who first introduced me to Open Space in Ottawa a number of years ago. I love how you captured the essence of this wonderful fishing story. In your training, through the "doing" that you described above, it quickly led me to this feeling "of coming home" as if for the first t

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Diane Gibeault
The sequence you describe Harrison – Fish Distributors, Fishing Teachers, and then “Gone fish‘in” looking for other fish to fry – captures well this rich exchange.    How fast can people start fishing, one of your earlier questions, remains an important one.   Do I truly believe that people can fi

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Harrison Owen
Joanne – we may get back to Krill fishing (or whatever is next down on the food chain).. But I think the principles still apply. ho Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Dr. Potomac, MD 20854 USA 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) Camden, Maine 20854 Phone 301-365-2093 (summer) 207-763-326

Re: [OSList] Video on Open Space with 140 school-girls in Berlin -don't miss to see.....

2012-02-25 Thread Cecilia Soriano
Jutta, Thank you for this gift so inspiring! P O W E R F U L ! ! ! Greetings from my smiling soul... Gracias por este regalo tan inspirador! PODEROSO! Saludos desde mi alma sonriente... Cecilia skype: cecisoriano www.conversacionesparatodos.com -Original Message- From: Jutta Weimar

Re: [OSList] Final weeks before the Open Space on Open Space - March14-16

2012-02-25 Thread Cecilia Soriano
The best for you dear Lisa and for all participants of this magical meeting, OSonOS San Francisco 2012! Good harvest and prepare to be surprise! Lo mejor para ti querida Lisa y para todos los participantes de este mágico encuentro, OSonOS San Francisco 2012! Buena cosecha y prepárense para ser

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Joanne Mantha
I agree with your sequence as long as nobody pollutes the environment in the meantime and that there is still fish to fish Joanne Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:18:47 +0900 From: spark@gmail.com To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Subject: Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friend

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Stanley Park
Abundance seems to be a sociospiritual issue of ourkind. It seems that it can be found only within and inbetween. - spark 2012. 2. 26. 오전 4:43에 "Harrison Owen" 님이 작성: > Bernd - No problem. Totally understand where you are coming from. At the > end of the day if you empower someone, by whatever mea

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Harrison Owen
Bernd - No problem. Totally understand where you are coming from. At the end of the day if you empower someone, by whatever means or degree - you have, at least to some real extent, dis-empowered them. Or at the very least, further encumbered their situation. All that said there are indeed times wh

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Stanley Park
I love it!!!^^ Abraços spark 2012. 2. 26. 오전 4:02에 "Lisa Heft" 님이 작성: > I am glad that my also announcing the upcoming event I am hosting does not > break these nutrient-rich streams. > You know how it is when you are hosting an event and want your fabulous > colleagues to join you - and there a

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Lisa Heft
I am glad that my also announcing the upcoming event I am hosting does not break these nutrient-rich streams. You know how it is when you are hosting an event and want your fabulous colleagues to join you - and there are also many pre-work tasks. I am so happy that I can now step back into th

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Stanley Park
Learninng the art of silence seems to be much more rewarding for both for there's no Godot with fish in hands. thank you! spark 2012. 2. 26. 오전 3:16에 "Artur Silva" 님이 작성: > Yes, Bernardo, you are right. Sometimes one must give the fish, teach to > fish and also help learning how to learn. > > Yo

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Artur Silva
Yes, Bernardo, you are right. Sometimes one must give the fish, teach to fish and also help learning how to learn.  You are also right that this "to help to learnr" is indeed "to facilitate". I avoided the term because quite often - as HO mentioned - many people think (and do) "facilitate too m

Re: [OSList] the oracle's musings

2012-02-25 Thread Bernhard Weber
Doug Ok, I see what you mean, I do not really see, that it "usufel to seek (such) settings out". But I believe (and have a little bit of experience) that OST works/is useful under such "highly conflictuous" conditions for a) getting the necessary work done without doing explicitly conflict man

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Cheryl Honey
Thank you Artur. I can’t agree with you more…Cheryl From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Artur Silva Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:20 AM To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] Teach Them to

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Bernhard Weber
Harrison, I have been living so long under conditions where the giver/beggar word pairing is not only a metaphor (Beira is the capital of Sofala province in Mozambique), so I had to deal with the problem also at a very practical level and on base of that I want to say: I fully agree and woul

Re: [OSList] Experiencing our human amazingness together through OS

2012-02-25 Thread Harrison Owen
Doug's rumination about trust (or the lack of same) combined in my mind with a phrase Skye used in her lovely note. Skye said: "to be in conflict with other life as well" - as if conflict were a benefit of our existence. Strangely I agree and feel rather the same way about the lack of trust -- for

Re: [OSList] the oracle's musings

2012-02-25 Thread doug
Bernd-- By "seeking out settings of high distrust," I suspect I mean situations, such as in a community, where members of one political party does not trust members of the other, where races suspect the others of being evil, where one class has traditionally subjugated another, or in a company whe

Re: [OSList] Experiencing our human amazingness together through OS

2012-02-25 Thread Stanley Park
Whenever the space opens Hesperides opens. And we come to realize that it's been within and between us ever since. Thank you Skye, spark 2012. 2. 26. 오전 12:26에 "Skye Hirst" 님이 작성: > I so appreciate all this activity on learning, fishing, and the implied > "magic" of how OS works. I felt inspi

[OSList] Experiencing our human amazingness together through OS

2012-02-25 Thread Skye Hirst
I so appreciate all this activity on learning, fishing, and the implied "magic" of how OS works. I felt inspired from it all this am and wrote these thoughts. Life gives us infinite possibilities to be ourselves, to act, to live in concert with other life and yes, to be in conflict with o

Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends

2012-02-25 Thread Corina
Thanks, Harrison for all those tips on fishing! I loved reading! Corina Castro e Silva (from Brasil) Paz e Bem! Em 23/02/2012, às 19:31, "Harrison Owen" escreveu: > There is an old saying to the effect that when seeking to help people it is > infinitely better to teach them to fish than to giv

Re: [OSList] Video on Open Space with 140 school-girls in Berlin - don't miss to see.....

2012-02-25 Thread icataiw
Wonderful show, Jutta! May this lead to much,, much more. Gail Dear Open Space friends, last December I facilitated an Open Space with 140 girls (aged 11-16 years) in the city of Berlin. The topic was about politics and what girls think about it and what questions they want to ask politicia