Re: [OSList] Toyota or equivalent / Leadership

Hi I sent the message below, with an attachment, but it was not distributed by the OSLIST :-( Please see the link below for a PDF of the HBR article mentioned. It someone can't acess the link, and want the PDF, please let me know offlist. Artur --- 2013/7/22 Artur Silva > Hi Harold,

Re: Embryonic Open Space UK website now online

At 17:02 16-02-2004 +, you wrote: It's very basic, it's not very pretty, but it exists! www.OpenSpaceUK.com (note: the capital letters are cosmetic) Congratulations. May I ask why you decided to choose ".com" and not ".org"? I also wonder what the www.openspaceworld.org webmaster will do

Re: Properties of circles

Peggy: Thanks very much for your marvelous explanation of why cascade doesn't work. In what concerns the other small point: At 11:49 15-02-2004 -0800, Peggy Holman wrote: * Artur's comments on OST's foundations and the principles reminded me of something I've come to believe: the law of two f

Re: unbearable lightness - urban design charrette

At 11:19 12-02-2004 -0500, Jennifer Hurley wrote: "Charrette" is the French word for "little cart". Architects now use the term to mean "intense design workshop". There's a story to this: supposedly, at the end of the semester at L'Ecole des Beaux Arts, the students would frantically work on t

Re: unbearable lightness catalogue - urban design charrette

At 18:23 11-02-2004 -0500, Winston Kinch wrote: The Unbearable Lightness of Being : A Novel by Milan Kundera Thanks, Winston. It helps a lot. And it poses a different "language problem"... If I recall well, Kundera's book was first published in French (in 84 or something like that), with the

Re: unbearable lightness catalogue - urban design charrette

Chris (and all): Sorry to come to the language question again... For those of us (a few in this list - and not growing - but the large majority in the world) that are not natives of the English language, there are words and expressions that are not easy to understand, if we don't have the time t

Re: OST in the academic subject of Organizational Communication

Dear Alan: At 16:53 24-01-2004 -0800, pe...@opencirclecompany.com wrote: from Alan Stewart... (..) I am preparing an 'expression of interest' for a sessional position (part time teaching) in Organizational Communication in the School of Communication, Information and New Media at a local uni

Re: Silence

At 17:53 24-01-2004 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote: I think this discussion of silence is marvelous. (...) With music of a different sort -- the kind that is performed in every Open Space we do -- the silences are always the richest part for me. So, maybe "Silence" is another "foundation" of OST,

Re: Silence

At 13:59 23-01-2004 -0800, Chris Corrigan wrote: So, to conclude, in terms Artur might appreciate: Prayer = IS + EN Reflection = IN + ES Where IS=internal silence, IN=internal noise, ES=external silence and EN=external noise. Sorry, Chris, but I share Ashley's doubts. And I am not able to ap

Re: Properties of circles

Thanks, Chris C., for raising this conversation and to all the others who participated till now. It is a very insightful conversation circle. It reminded me of the words of the Guide that I quote freely - "in many cultures we talk about a circle of friends and not about a square of friends" (or a

Re: Fwd: [OSLIST] Latin connections (correction)

At 17:42 18-12-2003 +, I wrote: I have initiated with some friends an OST Wiki for the Iberian languages. If you happen to understand Portuguese or Spanish (or even if not) you may take a look athttp://www.openspaceworld.org/iberia/iberia.cgi?IberiaWiki If you get lost with that ad

Latin connections (was: [OSLIST] French attack?)

Hello Dominique and Geneviève: Welcome to the list. I am glad you joined, as I am trying after some time to make connections between the (very few) OST practitioners that are natives of Latin languages. As you are planning for an OSI France maybe you want to take a look at what is already in Fre

Re: Civil Conversation

At 16:06 12-12-2003 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote: And a further interesting point. As near as I can figure out, every single respondent to my thoughts here has come from some place OTHER than the USA. What does that tell you? That's an interesting question. But I would like to know the answers f

Re: An opportunity for Civil Conversation

At 11:16 11-12-2003 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote: Folks Up for a little radical Democracy??? I completely support the idea of using "meet up" to open some space to try to renew the American citizenry and USA democracy, through some "Civil Conversations" on Building the America we would love to l

Re: outcomes and one-off OSTs and OSLIST... and mother list

eview page, from where the whole can be downloaded. having spent a good chunk of time weaving all that together, i wouldn't wish the same on anyone! but i still like how the non-guide turned out. http://www.globalchicago.net/wiki/wiki.cgi?OpenSpaceTech/UsersNonGuide mherman Artur Ferreir

Re: outcomes and one-off OSTs and OSLIST... and mother list

Friends I don't have the time these days to read all the posts and much less to write in English. But today is holliday in Portugal and I red all the posts from this thread and the interconnect "mother list" and I was ver impressed. And for some reason, like Michael Herman, I made a connection wi

Re: Ooops!

At 17:38 08-10-2003 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: Just noticed that Chris has been elevated -- ah that fateful "t." Now I don't know who is in more trouble --me or Chris. I though your mistake was quite natural... as you were talking about Liturgy ;-) Artur PS: I am following the dialogue wit

Re: Thoughts from the OSonOS11 organising team: Web Solution

Gerard and Thomas: Thanks for your feedback about OSonOS and especially about the onsite reaction to the online-onsite colaboration. Do you mind if I copy your message to the ongoing discussion on that matter at http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/OnsiteAndOnlineColab

Mozambique in the OS map (was: Re: [OSLIST] Another newcomer to OS)

At 14:36 03-10-2003 +0200, you wrote: Malta will soon be on the worldmap in blue. It will be country nr. 81. Hi Michael: Maybe it should be Bernd to present this request, but if you are going to change the map, maybe you should also include Mozambique (Moçambique, really) as an OST country...

Re: A newcomer to OST!

At 05:28 01-10-2003 -0600, you wrote: Hi, OSLIST colleagues, My name is Alexandre Bobeda (it can be only 'Alex'... :-)), I'm from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and I'd like to know and learn more about the Open Space Technology, mainly because it's a new 'thing' here in BR. A bit late, let me add my

Re: Stakeholder Workshop Dondo District

MARVELOUS! Fantastic story, Bernd!!! Thank you for reporting it to the list. Maybe I was even more impressed because it is a Country (and a region) that I knew well many, many years ago. And to see your "passion issues" as "temas de paixão" was really wonderfull too ;-) I am not sure, but I thi

Re: online participation...

At 22:39 23-09-2003 -0700, Ashley Cooper wrote: Hello all, I made the below post to the .net wiki and find myself checking back to see if anyone has responded...nope! Now i'm moving it over here to this forum. If you have any insight, please share. Thank you :-) Ashley Hi Ashley: Thank you v

Re: Interesting

At 12:19 21-09-2003 +0200, Ilse Debler wrote: Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wou

Comparing methodologies (was: That American bloke in France) (long)

Martin: Thanks for your information about OST in France and for your notes on methodologies. Some comments on this last topic: When I was trying to understand the "method" I was using to "Teach Management to Engineering Students" - that was an unknown method (even to myself...) - I come across

Conversing about..."the right conditions"

Hello again: For someone like myself that has problems with the capitalized word Spirit (as well as with some other capitalized words) and with the wording of the "principle" that says "whatever happens is the only thing that could have" I felt very surprised as I completely agree with this formu

Re: Open Space and World Cafe

At 09:18 07-09-2003 +0930, Alan Stewart wrote: There are periodic indications that some of us are using both OST and Café processes, sometimes independently and sometimes in combination. In my experience this can be very effective in contexts in which each is appropriate. Thanks for calling th

Re: OS World Map (was : Re: [OSLIST] Any learning opportunities in ...)

At 01:15 07-09-2003 +0200, Pannwitz, Michael M wrote: The idea with the new map is to show all 174 countries in the world with a popup window for each country which will show the names of practitioners that choose to be shown there. Countries where there is a facilitator will get a different col

OS World Map (was : Re: [OSLIST] Any learning opportunities in ...)

Dear Michael and all OSers I know that there are plans for the revamping of the OST World Map, and the question has been discussed at the last OSonOS. (for those that have not noticed that, the sessions and comments on that are available at http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?OSonOSinS

Fwd: KnowledgeBoard #062 - KM in China, Wikis and Blokis, etc

[KnowledgeBoard in an EU sponsored site directed to the Knowledge Management Community in Europe. They have a weekly newsletter (that I subscribe but rarely have the time to read). In last week's number there are three articles that can interests some of us. An article about Blogs, Wikis, and "Blo

Re: OSonOS in Swenmark

At 13:36 24-08-2003 +0200, Thomas Herrmann wrote: Dear friends in Open Space OSonOS in Swenmark is going on well. Issues have been posted and proceedings have and are being written. The OSonOS online café is also busy. You are most welcome to join in at http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.

Re: OST - Post Melbourne

Dear Janet: Thank you very much for your marvelous story. I will make here some comments and put some questions that I think can be of interest to the all group. And maybe we can afterwords discuss through private mail other details that probably are not so interesting to the all group. First I

Re: OSonOSinGOA

At 17:44 16-08-2003 +0530, Janet Pinto wrote: Brian and Viv have drawn our attention to the need to set the dates so that they can be firmed up at the event in Denmark. Based on our recent explorations we suggest the time from September 24th--30, 2004, for the following reasons : The off-season

Re: "History of OSonOS" in different languages? - Portuguese version on-line

At 09:59 24-07-2003 +0200, Gabriela Ender wrote: (...) I thought, it could be interesting to include some words about the history of OSonOS meetings. I asked Harrison about some sentences, and very fast he send me the following text. Harrison, again ... thank you very much! And Michael M was so

Re: 2108: the complete foto-story

At 22:25 19-07-2003 +0200, you wrote: Dear colleagues, it took Daniel and me a bunch of time but now we got it. Have a look at the 95 best pictures selected out of 600, arranged in 8 chapters and each picture with a short heading in both German and English. Click on the direct link: http://www.op

Iberian OST Wiki Project

[I am resending this mail of last Sunday, now that the OSLIST is working again. Thanks JL - Artur] Dear friends: After a sunny Sunday of work, from myself and Veronique Santos, and thanks to previous work of Terence Reis (our Wiki "specialist) and Alexandre Bobeda (in the Spanish section) I am

Iberian OST Wiki Project

Dear friends: After a sunny Sunday of work, from myself and Veronique Santos, and thanks to previous work of Terence Reis (our Wiki "specialist) and Alexandre Bobeda (in the Spanish section) I am pleased to announce that our Project his coming to light. Special thanks to Michael Herman for making

Languages and Translations (was: Languages in Europe...)

Hi Joelle and Lucy (and all) Joelle wrote: Artur-- (...) I was quite interested to observe that the Brazilians listed only roles of family and relationships. I suspect, that this is because family and interpersonal relationships are far more important in Latin cultures. But I also wonder if the

Re: languages in Europe and how to overcome

At 16:15 13-07-2003 -0400, Joelle Lyons Everett wrote: I am encouraged by seeing small steps toward valuing all the languages people speak. Of my four children, two speak a second language fluently and know something about another culture--one has lived two years in France, the other lived and

Re: AW: Practitioner

Reinhard and all: At 10:12 13-07-2003 +0200, Visuelle Protokolle wrote: very shortly I want to tell that I hate this word "Practitioner". Our "International Forum of Visual Practitioners Association", which I a am a member of, uses this description also, and I am fighting for a new and more be

Re: languages in Europe and how to overcome

John and Erich Thanks for your support. I think Erich made a good description of the language situation in Europe (and yes, Portugal is the only monolingual country in Europe, and the oldest too as it has been independent since 1143). This gives a tremendous difficulty to all negotiations in th

Re: OSW Wiki - a request for an iberian experiment

Hello Michael and all (especially the Spanish and Portuguese speaking people - including Carla ;-) Thanks for your reply and offer of help, Michael. I will answer this mail to the list and then we will discuss the details in private conversations. At 00:09 13-07-2003 -0500, Michael Herman wrote

OSW Wiki - a request for an iberian experiment (long)

Dear Michael Herman, Dear friends of OSI-USA, Dear friends of this community of practitioners (of OST facilitation ;-) I would like to profit from the newly launched wiki ".net" space to conduct an experiment. In this post I will describe the experiment I want to try, the team I am creating to de

Re: OSonOSinGOA - A reply from LISA HEFT to - An Invitation

[For some reason, Lisa is not able to post messages to the OSLIST right now. So, in her air way from her place to Zambia she drop this message just upon Lisbon, asking me to post it in her name. Here it goes... - Artur] Janet and Malay I also have felt called to India and indeed during the past

Re: OSonOSinGOA - An Invitation

Dear Janet and all: t 10:38 10-07-2003 +0530, Janet Pinto wrote: We are now ready to extend to the OS Community our invitation to hold the 12th OSonOS in Goa, on the west coast of India. Thanks for the invitation. I think it's the right time for OST to go back to GOA. And, if I have not alrea

Re: WEBMAIL: Open Space Institute Chile

Dear Johann: Thanks for you mail. I am very glad that OST is spreading through Chile, and of course that justifies an inclusion in Michael's "OST road map" ;-) Please note that I assume that in Spanish (as in Portuguese) a private company can be called an Institute. My clarification was only du

Re: WEBMAIL: Open Space Institute Chile

Michael: At 22:14 08-07-2003 +0200, Pannwitz, Michael M wrote: >Currently, I am developing a website for the Open Space Institute - Chile (http://espacioabierto.tripod.cl) in order to establish a network with the few practitioners in Chile, and as a strategy to offer the methodology to the pri

Re: Google's WMD Error Message

Hi Linda and Florian: At 08:05 07-07-2003 +0800, Linda E. Laddin wrote: Dear All, The folks at Google seem to be amusing themselves and us with this parody of an error message, so it may be there for a while. Be sure to click on Detect Weapons and Bomb for extra fun! Cheers, I am not sure. I

"weapons of mass destruction" in google

Dear friends: I suggest a little experiment: 1) Go to the site: www.google.com 2) Key "weapons of mass destruction" (don't hit Enter) 3) Hit the botton "I am lucky", and not the normal google search 4) Read careffully what seems to be an error message. You may also follow the links. Have a n

CoPs in Portuguese.

Dear friends: For those of you that don't understand Portuguese or Spanish, here is a summary of the following message. A group of Portuguese people involved in Communities of Practice (called CoPs or CPs) held a meeting on the suject and decided to create a listserv on "CoPs-in-portuguese," tha

Re: haiti regional open space on open space

At 12:57 29-06-2003 -0500, Michael Herman wrote: hello artur, we did a regional osonos in chicago recently, just ost, and in our own native language! That's good, because now we can add Chicago's native slung to our list of languages... Many years ago, I saw a movie about Chicago (featuring A

Re: haiti regional open space on open space

John and Michael (Berlin): Thanks for your reports on the regional OSonOS in Haiti and Berlin/Central Europe. I think those meetings are very inspirational particularly because: (1) They are named "regional OSonOS", thus conserving the name - I am glad you have NOT decided to "combine" OST with

Re: [OSLIST] ¿Algo en español...? - Feedback

At 21:31 25-06-2003 +0100, I wrote: From time to time I used to do a test that I will repeat now. In the last line before my signature I will write a line with many Portuguese special characters. Can all of you please see if you can receive them well, and answer to me PRIVATELLY sending me back

Re: Rome was one year ago - any news?

Dear Joelle (and Michael P): At 15:28 26-06-2003 -0400, Joelle Lyons Everett wrote: In my 20+ years working as a facilitator (in Open Space and other forms), there have been a number of times when I have realized, on the last morning of a meeting, that where I thought we would go was not the pl

Re: Pattern Languages

At 19:23 25-06-2003 -0500, Michael Herman wrote: hi all... anybody here on the list done any thinking about how ost syncs up with the work on pattern languages and the nature of order by chris alexander and the agile/xp software development crowd? seems to directly parallel complexity and ost w

Re: Rome was one year ago - any news?

Dear Michael (Berlin) At 10:24 26-06-2003 +0200, Pannwitz, Michael M wrote: which rule of os did ho break, cleverly? Thank you very much for your question. This is only one opinion and HO will correct me if he wants to - or any one of you, for that matter. I don't know exactly what was planne

Re: Rome was one year ago - any news?

Tova: At 01:36 26-06-2003 +0200, Averbuch wrote: It is late, I am dead tired' and I do not trust my English in times like this but I feel compelled to write, at least some "news" (...) Thanks for the news. My conclusion: in spite of bad conditions created by radicals in both sides (one of the

Re: first message

"I don't think o u r c h a r a c t e r s support" (Hebrew and Arabic):):) PS You are right but there aren't that many people on the list who speak it either. I am telling myself what you told Luci. Sometimes it works. -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:os

Re: [OSLIST] ¿Algo en español...?

Hola Jaime y Ashley Nice to read your words in Spanish. I imagine that some people in this list think that I am crazy about languages (which is probably true...). At least now I am not alone... And I think that Michael Herman will accept your offer, Jaime, and ask you to contribute in Spanish to

Re: Res: Re: first message - to Joelle

At 20:11 24-06-2003 -0400, Joelle Lyons Everett wrote: It is true that not many of us speak portugese, but some of us would like to learn a little. So, Lucy, I invite you to practice your english, which is fine, and also give me a chance to puzzle over your portugese--when I read it over a coupl

Re: first message

At 16:58 24-06-2003 -0700, Chris Corrigan wrote: Oh yeah...Hebrew and Arabic too... I don´t think our characters (code pages) suport that... Artur * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubs

Re: first message

At 02:45 25-06-2003 +0200, Averbuch wrote: Arthur - what does "Abracos" mean? how do you pronounce it? (promise to Tell you why I asked at your response) Hi Tova "Abraços" means "hugs" but is used in a more coloquial sense than in English. it's pronnound (difficult question) as A - muet A

Re: Res: Re: first message

Hi Lucy: Sorry to inform you but the majority of participantes here don´t speak Portuguese or Spanish. Most of them have English as their first language and the others also write in English. When I have used one sentence in Portuguese it was sort of a joke. But I think that your English is "goo

Re: first message

At 17:07 24-06-2003 -0300, Lucy Geão wrote: I am a brazilian lady, from Salvador, Bahia, Brasil and I work with cultural and business events like congress, workshop, etc.. and I am attending to a superior course related to my business and I am interest specially in the Knowledge Management but I

Re: everything WE know about ost...

Michael (Herman): Thank you for your long post on our "sites", but I became more confused later then I was before ;-((( Can you please explain what content will be located in the current .org site and what will be in the new .net site? Do you plan to have the multilingual feature in both (ok,

Re: everything i know about ost...

At 07:50 19-06-2003 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: The space is always open, and heresy is definitely good for the soul. It is a marvelous antidote to arteriosclerosis of the mental pathways and other obnoxious indications of incipient dogmatism. And it certainly eliminates the dreaded One Right Wa

Re: open space in Poland

At 14:03 18-06-2003 +0200, Pannwitz, Michael M wrote: (...) participants at the international open space-training in Weimar with 46 people from 13 European countries just 3 weeks ago. Would you please be so kind, Michael, to tell us what 13 countries were represented and how the 46 participants

Re: our website in Chinese

At 14:45 11-06-2003 -0400, Joelle Lyons Everett wrote: In a message dated 6/11/03 10:12:49 AM, artsi...@mail.eunet.pt writes: << I am glad they have conserved OST and not made an acronym with Chinese caracters ;-) >> Actually, Artur, it would be more consistent with your earlier point about L

Re: our website in Chinese

At 11:34 11-06-2003 -0500, Michael Herman wrote: here's another one for you artur! (...) > Here is our URL: http://www.frontier.org.tw/ost/ Thanks, Michael. I am glad they have conserved OST and not made an acronym with Chinese caracters ;-) The next step is to establish a site (a new fronti

About the next OSonOS and the OS site - the quest for a "global OS"

Dear friends: Some weeks ago in a private e-mail conversation with a colleague he told me, in a marginal comment, that "OST is mainly an American thing". I have not commented that observation but I have been thinking about it... And there is one thing I am sure: many of us that are non-American

OST, OSO, OSW... (an overall coment on "It always works revisited")

Hello dear friends: [In the first draft of this post, I began with a parenthesis (strange way of beginning), about today being a holiday in Portugal, but it got too big and has been removed to a PS... But before it was removed it degenerated in a second parenthesis about "metanoia" that I have de

Re: "It always works" - revisited again

What a marvelous message, dear Julie. I suppose I will need one week of re-reading it before I am able to articulate any feedback. Thanks a lot. Artur * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubs

"It always works" - revisited again

Hello all: 1. We have commented a lot of times that "It always works". And we have even discussed repeatedly "why" it works. But I would like to suggest (again) a broader perspective. Starting with the most obvious questions: What is the "It" that always works? And what does "works" mean? 2. Try

Illinois Food Security (was: Genetic Engineering ...)

At 23:55 07-06-2003 -0500, Michael Herman wrote: full proceedings at http://www.globalchicago.net/foodsecurity second year they did their own version of 'modified open space' this year one of the leading supporters of full open space for this statewide community is planning the conf as an ultra

Portuguese (Brasilian) translation of OST Users Guide - a Review

Hello friends: Thanks to a kind "sponsor", I have been able to put my eyes on the Portuguese translation (Brazilian edition) of the OST User's Guide! I have decided to share with you a "review" of that edition, especially as I have some VERY GOOD NEWS to all of us, and particularly to Harrison, t

Re: FW: Open Space information in Portuguese

At 12:25 30-05-2003 -0400, DGibeault wrote: I've received this request from the organization that I worked with at their international OS on Participatory development last year in Guelph. Can anyone help? You can contact Tanya directly at the email address bellow. Apart from the Portuguese tra

OS Research (was: Open Space ,Self-Organizing Systems, and The Plexus Institute)

Sorry for the delay, Harrison and all. I had not the time to read all the post in this thread but I know that a lot of interesting suggestions have been made on how to continue the conversations with Plexus. So, changing the subject, I would like to make some lateral comments. At 09:45 26-05-2003

Re: Comments from the Sponsor of "2108"

At 08:42 16-05-2003 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: Under the heading of stories and comments from "2108" -- the following comes from Albrech Mahr, who along with his wife Brirgitte, sponsored and organized the event. Added to all the wonderful pictures we have been viewing and we seem to be devel

Re: 2108 - 100 pictures and a photostory

At 20:46 15-05-2003 +0200, Erich Kolenaty wrote: Hi all, here I am to fulfill my promise. I produced a story of the Open Space in Würzburg in a powerpointpresentation. This is even more marvelous, Erich, as it has a story related (story telling). Now I can feel the energy that was there. I wil

Re: 100 pictures from "2108"

At 07:59 14-05-2003 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: Wonderful pictures Michael. Now the doubters can count the bodies present -- and I am sure they will come out with the magic number. *2108* Marvelous pictures, indeed. But I am not sure about the number 2108 - I think the guy with the hat, and the

Fw: Goodwill and community by Etienne Wenger

[I think this can be of interest to many of you - Artur] In defense of goodwill a community perspective An open letter to President Bush March 2, 2003 Dear Mister President, I am a European immigrant. I have lived in this country for more than twenty years and have vested my heart and hope

Re: It works everywhere - but it should't...

At 04:47 08-03-2003 +0200, you wrote: Artur, before you dissapear: great and refreshing questions. Thnaks for your comments, John, Joelle, Bernd. Sorry to inform that Haiti and Moçambique are not included in the tables that you can see at www.itim.org/4aba.html. Disapearing just now ;-) Bye

Re: The Tipping Point

At 17:40 04-03-2003 -0900, Dan Chay wrote: On the possibility you haven't come across the book already, I thought I might share with you a quick summary/interpretation/taste of "The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference," by Malcolm Gladwell (2000): http://www.gladwell.com/

It works everywhere - but it should't...

Hello again: We all know of OST successful experiences in many countries and different cultures. Due to other reasons, I recently re-red Hofstede's book on national cultures ("Cultures and Organizations"). From the analysis of personal surveys at IBM in some 50 countries and regions, in the 70's

It always works - but why? (long)

Dear colleagues: This is an old question - from time to time, one of us comes to this and tries to give a (provisional) answer and we engage in a dialogue on that. I normally refer to this Why-question as a matter of the "foundations of OST" (not sure if it is a good translations for the Portugue

Re: Glossary of Terms - Portuguese version

Hi: Portuguese translations above, after de English expressions (I hope you can receive the special signs) Artur - At 19:47 06-03-2003 -0800, Lisa Heft wrote: Agenda wall Agenda (*) Book of proceedings (also known as proceedings) Livro de Actas (Actas) Breaking news Notíci

Re: OST and training in "Facilitating Virtual Communities"

Larry: Thank you very much for your informations At 16:15 22-02-2003 -0500, Larry Peterson wrote: I have been working with the Government of Ontario (and know others working with Industry Canada) on the development of things like Integrated Service Delivery to Business using IT and Counter inf

OST and training in "Facilitating Virtual Communities"

Dear friends and colleagues: 1. I am coordinating an action research Project on the "Renewal of the Portuguese Public Administration, namely through the use of Information Systems/Information Technology". The Project is based at INA - the body responsible for training the Portuguese Public Admini

Re: Fwd: Re: [OSLIST] Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

Dear Michael: At 17:10 19-02-2003 +0100, you wrote: My word for givens is "Rahmenbedingungen" and I propose we all use this word to really impress our sponsors and clients. It translates something like "conditions that set the frame". Very impressive. Next time we meet face to face you have t

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

Hello Birgitt At 21:02 18-02-2003 -0500, Birgitt Williams wrote: Arthur, Sorry to begin with this, but may I ask that you spell my name as "Artur". My ancestors have been romanized many centuries ago, and I wouldn't like be "anglicized" (or "americanized") now... I accept responsibility for

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

At 12:20 19-02-2003 +0100, Pannwitz, Michael M wrote: In my practice I charge a flat fee for facilitating an os-event. It includes the planning sessions, setting up the room etc., being the facilitator and conducting a followup meeting. If the client does not want the follow up, still the same f

Re: Fwd: Re: [OSLIST] Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

Dear Chris: - Mensagem Reenviada de Chris Corrigan So I think that givens are useful as long as they are well understood and true. And what empowerment is all about is including them and transcending them and evolving to a higher form of being. I know that you and other collegues do a

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

At 10:18 19-02-2003 +, Chris Corrigan wrote: I can t resist throwing out this bone: http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i23/23b00701.htm Thank you, Chris. Very interesting. In the 40's it was Bertalanffy's "General Systems Theory"; later French

Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

Hello dear Joelle Thank you for your marvelous story. I really liked it. I am not so sure if you will like my conclusions from that story. I think that I have already referred in the past the quotation from Piaget that I translate as "Givens (or data) are never given to us; they are created by t

Re (long): [OSLIST] Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such

Hello Harrison and all: Let me first say that my agreement with you is probably so great as 90%. But I need - at least for myself - to clarify where are the other 10% and why are they there. And try to find some "convergence" or, if not possible, respectfully acknowledge the "divergence", as good

Re: are we there yet?

Hello John (and all the other colleagues that are contributing to these marvelous interconnected threads): Due to professional reasons (that I will explain some day, as they relate to opening the space for transformation, but not mainly through OST) I have been out of the list for some months. No

Re: Weaving OS into other processes

At 07:45 04-06-2002 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: Confusion, it seems to me, is the intellectual equivalent of chaos, and it has the positive virtue of opening space in the mind by clearing out strongly held notions in order to permit more adequate ones to emerge. In a word, confusion might well b

Re: Languages again

At 11:09 02-06-2002 +1000, Fr Brian S Bainbridge wrote: A student at the University of Illinois recently asked: "Fr Brian, in your country, do you have to study English from a very early age?" I answered: "That is true." He added : "You speak it very well, considering." I thanked him for his co

Re: More on Empowerment - Moderation and Languages

At 23:45 31-05-2002 +0100, Winfried Ursin wrote: I love this empowerment thread, especially the 'skipping spacer' (may be a good jobtitle?), as I am currently thinking what happens in organisations before they embrace new tools, language, attitudes,... Hummm. That is the problem I have been co

Re: Reporting back...Open Space for a track within a Conference

At 16:02 31-05-2002 -0700, Peggy Holman wrote: Well, 2 weeks ago, I opened the space for 1.5 days for a conference track on "Building a Pattern Language of Living Communication" during a conference of Computer Professionals for Social Repsonsibility. Thanks for reporting back, Peggy. After all

il pensiero è sempre un grano di sabbia nell'ingranaggio del potere

English ("oficial" translation) - thoughts are like a grain of sand in the power machine My English "translation" : "(Some) thoughts do open the space" ;-) See the translations in "many languages" above Artur - All languages, please click on this link: http://www.logos

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