ever happens is the
only thing that could have". I know John Engle brought this question up in
the past http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/2007/05/11/whatever-happens/ and
I'm still curious about it.
I find that people sometimes use it as a block to reflection, a reason to
not look back a
Hi fellow listers.
I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm wanting to
get the most recent reflections on the principle:
Whatever happens is the only thing that could've.
My colleagues in Haiti and I continue to have smart people from a variety of
cultures l
story line was that of a young girl asking her mother if she
will grow up to be pretty, find romance, marry a handsome guy, etc. The
mother replied in the song's chorus, as above.)
As for our wonderful "Whatever happens..." principle, it's sort of like a
system condition for o
Dear all,
Larry, Chris, Christoph, Joelle,
Artur, you wrote:
<< But please
note that, when an Organisation is willing and have accepted to use OST,
it has agreed to stop "normal rules of day to day behaviour" >>
I really love this conversation.
So, "whatever happen
cided to take a bathroom break.
On my return I approached one of the spaces to find several of the sessions
pasted on the wall. I turned to look at the marketplace to discover only the
time slots and locations remained. Each location had all its sessions stuck on
the wall.
Whatever happens, I th
cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:29 PM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Whatever happens
Hello friends around the world,
Feeling those gathered in San Francisco, swimming in the hearty open space
soup, I find a myself pondering a topic I would host if I were there... a
topic I'd love to
in
> the past http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/2007/05/11/whatever-happens/and
> I'm still curious about it.
>
> I find that people sometimes use it as a block to reflection, a reason to
> not look back and learn from what didn't happen because "whatever happens is
hearty open space
soup, I find a myself pondering a topic I would host if I were there... a
topic I'd love to have a conversation around.
I'm curious about the wording of the principle, "what ever happens is the
only thing that could have". I know John Engle brought this ques
howen
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"WHATEVER HAPPENS IS WHAT DID" is the poster i use in english and
orally, i add, "Learn and move forward."
this is what i landed on based on, i think, Doug Germann's weighing in
when i was feeling the need to change it.
so far it seems to have worked nicely. it&#x
the Cage: Power and
Participation in Open Space":
"...Many of us felt uncomfortable with the implications of 'Whatever happens
is the only thing that could have.' Is this an abdication of our
responsibility as facilitators for the qualities we support in an open space
process? Wha
about a starting place, an invitation to be present. It is also an
>>> invitation to go deeper into this present moment. For me that has always
>>> been the jump off place for truly amazing journeys.
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>> Harri
;>>> and
>>>> as a people. But unless all that starts from a clear point of grounding
>>>> in
>>>> the present moment, it seems to me that we can quickly lose our way. It
>>>> is
>>>> also true that were we to become so infatuated with what "might"
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cooper
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:52 PM
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Wow, wow, wow. Very exciting. Thank you so much. I look forward to
listening.
Grateful
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Corrigan
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:30 PM
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Ash:
John wrote:
We've been experimenting in Haitian Creole and in English with this: What
Happens is what happens - learn and move forward.
Here's an example of a text that would explain this principle: This
principle helps us to not lament over should'ves, to not wallow in regrets.
We're all responsi
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: whatever happens...
Hi fellow listers.
I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm wanting to
get the most recent reflections on the principle:
Whatever happens is the only thing that could
John--
How about "Whatever happens is the only thing that did"?
:- Doug.
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 18:22 -0700, John Engle wrote:
> Hi fellow listers.
>
> I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm
> wanting to get the mos
these are great! thanks for your affirmations, lisa, and for your reflections
alan and doug.
no one will ever be able to argue or dispute, "whatever happens is the only
thing that did"
i can't even say it without a grin and chuckle. that's a good sign.
i look forward to
--- John Engle wrote:
> I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I'm
> wanting to get the most recent reflections on the principle:
>
> Whatever happens is the only thing that could've.
John et al,
My take on this Principle is, and always has b
I did a search of my OSlist archive. The last time this subject came up in
depth was in 2001! I've copied some excerpts below.
A new insight for me on whatever happens is that it helps reframe disonnance,
disturbance. I know now that perturbations in a system are a sign that
somethin
.
Because we can never know what will emerge, trusting in one another will
take us to a place that none of us could have guessed at prior to meeting.
And thus, whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
Chris
On 4/23/07, Peggy Holman wrote:
I did a search of my OSlist archive. The last
It is interesting (funny, odd, strange) how words, once casually spoken,
take on a life of their own, and somehow or another possess a depth of
meaning that was totally invisible in the moment of speaking. The phrase,
"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have," was just a thro
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Hi fellow listers.
I know that some have been through this hundreds of times but I&
Another two öre, from the north.
WE DO OUR BEST. that´s what we can do, THEN whatever happens happens. We´d
better accept it learn and move on.
Warm regards
Thomas
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From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of John Engle
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 6:22 PM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
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Dear John, and others,
I want to come back to your wonderful thoughts regarding this principle because
I like the way you have been experimenting in Haitian Creole and in English
with very much: "What Happens is what happens - learn and move forward."
And you have added: "This principle helps u
hen a child comes to parent with unhappy
face, the parent will probably ask "what happened?". Or there is a
saying "we will be friends whatever happens". So when people first time
hear the principle of "what ever happens" in OS it sounds a bit like a
warning that thi
"right" ones are??? For myself the phrase, "Whatever happens is the only
thing that could have" - just came out that way. No particular thought on
the subject, it just felt right. And over the years it still feels right -
but the MEANING (for me) is -
The past is over, the fu
is
understood as something that will happen in future (although we dont
have grammatical future). At the same time "happens" has in everyday use
mostly negative connotation. When a child comes to parent with unhappy
face, the parent will probably ask "what happened?". Or
y!
Warmly,
Gabriela
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From: John Engle
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: whatever happens...
Thanks for your response, Arno.
It's so important that translation captures the essence.
In Ha
if the clima system is susceptible to it. In a 'stable' state the system is
> not susceptible to small variations of the conditions. This is where your
> first sentences may hold true. But if you add accidentalness or
> fortuitousness to the recipe, you end up with 'kism
Dear colleagues:
I want to thank Michael, Joelle and Larry for their comments on my
previous mail on "Whatever Happens". And also all that have contributed
to the thread on Chaos (and also, in a smaller way, on Leadership).
Because one of my questions is precisely the relation betwee
jleshel...@aol.com wrote:
> Christoph--
>
> I think that adding accidentalness of fortuitousness to the recipe may
> change
> it, but I think I would call it grace rather than kismet. Kismet or
> fate for
> me implies something that is preordained. Grace is something which is
>
> outside my pers
aks of relates to how we think about what does happen.
I am liking the principle, "Whatever happens is what happens." A light
reminder to be present, pay attention, and let go of the
"could-have/should-have" constructs that are vestiges of our habits of
control. I am thinking
is also my belief that a big part of the magic of OS is that the old rules
are suspended and new rules (operating rules) apply.
About "whatever happens," it seems to me that this principle's primary value
is to remind us not to waste our energy on "could-have-beens," to
Joelle said: "not to waste our energy on "could-have-beens"" -- I think
this is a critical framing. "whatever happens, happens" acknowledges that
what is past is past. "is the only thing that that could have" requires a
personal letting go of "c
Thanks, Heiner, much better to have you on screen than lurking!
Joelle
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Dear Joelle,
Thank you, and yes, we´ll meet again in this space and others to be . . .
In for the dance ;-), as it happens to be.
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Here is a perspective on this issue that you may find adds to the other lively
contributions on this core topic.
Several years ago I was given a gift which has had a profound influence on my
thinking, professional practice and life.
This is that 'Intelligence is a property of conversation.'
t; obvious you’re not an authority”, I decided to take a bathroom break.
>
> On my return I approached one of the spaces to find several of the
> sessions pasted on the wall. I turned to look at the marketplace to
> discover only the time slots and locations remained. Each location had a
and locations remained. Each
location had all its sessions stuck on the wall.
Whatever happens, I thought.
After noticing there was some confusion about trying to discuss
all sessions at the same time, conversations moved to become about
a more defined topic (at least of few of
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To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Subject: [OSList] Whatever happens...
Yesterday I facilitated a two-hour open space at the end of a training course
for 30 people. I explained the principles, the law, etc. and described the
marketplace. The marketplace had four time slots across the top and
nd several of the sessions
pasted on the wall. I turned to look at the marketplace to discover only the
time slots and locations remained. Each location had all its sessions stuck on
the wall.
Whatever happens, I thought.
After noticing there was some confusion about trying to discuss all
proached one of the spaces to find several of the sessions
> pasted on the wall. I turned to look at the marketplace to discover only the
> time slots and locations remained. Each location had all its sessions stuck
> on the wall.
>
> Whatever happens, I thought.
>
> After notic
OSList
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 4:33 AM
To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Subject: [OSList] Whatever happens...
Yesterday I facilitated a two-hour open space at the end of a training course
for 30 people. I explained the principles, the law, etc. and described the
marketplace. The
s, view the archives of OSLIST Go
to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
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Dear Harrison
Thanks for the suggestion. It being the facilitator’s decision to decide the
number of spaces and the number and length of the time-slots when creating the
marketplace has never felt comfortable whether
: 'Stuart Turner'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
Subject: Re: [OSList] Whatever happens...
Stuart -- Maybe Michael Pannwitz will tell the tale of the 2108 person OS? As I
recall, we (that would be Michael and me) estimated that there might be 150
issues. Boy were
stions to "get out of the way” and “make it
>> obvious you’re not an authority”, I decided to take a bathroom break.
>>
>> On my return I approached one of the spaces to find several of the
>> sessions pasted on the wall. I turned to look at the marketplace to
>> d
, I decided to take a bathroom break.
On my return I approached one of the spaces to find several of the sessions
pasted on the wall. I turned to look at the marketplace to discover only the
time slots and locations remained. Each location had all its sessions stuck on
the wall.
Whatever happens
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assle. No haggle... Just announce your issues, take a blank post-it
>> (you will need some blanks) describe a time, choose a space (the
>> Piano, patio, bar for examples) and post it on the wall. No sweat and
>> you will have plenty of time for a break.
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oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Subject: [OSList] Whatever happens...
Yesterday I facilitated a two-hour open space at the end of a
training course for 30 people. I explained the principles, the law,
etc. and described the marketplace. The marketplace had
gt; (you will need some blanks) describe a time, choose a space (the
> Piano, patio, bar for examples) and post it on the wall. No sweat and
> you will have plenty of time for a break.
>
> ho
>
> Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, MD 20854 301-365-2093
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> Summer Address 189 Beaucaire A
From: OSList
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<mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> Subject: [OSList] Whatever
happens...
Yesterday I faci
From: Deborah Hartmann [mailto:debo...@hartmann.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:23 AM
To: hho...@verizon.net
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> Life, of course, is filled with throwaways. Some stick around and
others depart.
The wording of this makes me think of the (apocryp
John (and all),
I followed this thread with great interest. Thanks for the question as it
helped me to pick away at the essence of os/OST yet again...and come away
with new questions.
I am curious, John, now that we have had the conversation on this principle
(I prefer how Michael Pannwitz calls
Dear John (and all),
This "whatever happens..." thread reminds me of the first point at which I
"got" OST a few years ago. As an extremely slow learner, I only had my first
"aha" in understanding OST/os at my 10th (!) time facilitating a meeting, a
strategic pla
Hello! [smiling and waving]
I'm loving this discussion, and have a tiny contribution - that it seems
clear from what people have said that everyone, facilitator and participants
alike, hears the principles as they are. The principles cannot exist as dry,
objective, concrete concepts; it's impos
day, May 11, 2007 12:45 PM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Re: whatever happens...is personal!
Hello! [smiling and waving]
I'm loving this discussion, and have a tiny contribution - that it seems
clear from what people have said that everyone, facilitator and participants
alike
The length of this discussion on "Whatever happens" is testament to its
magic. Honoring this principle, this is an excerpt from a new work just
completing, "Conscious Becoming".
Whether we like it or not,
Whether we approve of it or not,
whether it makes sense or not,
thi
Just lovely, Jack. Thank you. I felt immediately calmed and full of
presence. It came along at just the right time for me. Whatever
happens...
Diana
Diana Larsen
503-288-3550 www.futureworksconsulting.com
www.futureworksconsulting.com/blog
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The length of this discussion on "Whatever happens" is testa
At 12:57 10-01-2001 +0100, Christoph J.W. Schmees wrote:
... Stuff happens and whatever
happens is the only thing that could!
(So you deny the free will, and hence any responsibility of man? :-)
I think Christoph ir right, and we tend to use the above "principle" in
a too bro
Thank you to all who shared insights and wisdom on this question.
I found your responses to be IMMENSELY helpful.
with much gratitude,
John
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just read Harrison's words about the "whatever happens" issue and am feeling
humbled in the same way that I've been feeling humbled by working with a group
that Brian Bainbridge has worked with. I LOVE reading your words, Harrison. And
when I read them, I'm lucky enough to
Hi,
first of all thanks a lot for this the discussion on "whatever happens...".
I'm learning a lot from all of you! :-). My reflection follows
The principles in Italy
This is how normally people reacts to the principles here in Italy - at
least in my experience (from th
artur,
i think that 'whatever happens is the only thing that could have' is
necessarily absolutely true. if there was anything else more likely,
more possible, it would have happened. this does not mean that it is
most desirable. does not mean that it should be repeated. and,
espec
artur--
Thanks for your questions and comments. Personally, I have never taken
"Whoever comes are the right people" and "Whatever happens is the only thing
that could have" in a very broad philosophical sense, but have considered
that they are true within the specific conce
I agree with Michael and Joelle. "Whatever happens" is a key principle to
inform how we operate in Open Space. At first I struggled a bit with that
one. I later recognized that it was my desire to shape or control the
outcomes that was driving that struggle for me. As a social justic
Hello All,
In reading the discussion about "Whatever happens is the only thing that
could have" I think that there may be a point that we are overlooking. In
essence, the statement is true. We can't change the past, and there is no
use in looking back and wishing that we could ha
In my previous email I described a session with youth and adults where the
question was "How do we increase and strengthen youth/adult collaboration to
improve our community?" One session posted by the 85 or so year old man was
"beekeeping". Since his retirement 25 years previously he had been ke
Carol Loughrey wrote:
"In my previous email I described a session with youth and adults where the
question was "How do we increase and strengthen youth/adult collaboration to
improve our community?" One session posted by the 85 or so year old man was
"beekeeping". Since his retirement 25 years
it is true that
whatever happens is the only thing that could have – because it DID – then
whatever happens in the present then gains an authority in our reflection
and our action in the now and the future. We take whatever happened as a
firm given.
Yet we know from learning theory that there is
d
> wondering how things might have gone differently. Accepting what happened
> as the only thing that could have makes that event into a clear place of
> starting afresh or as a foundation stone to build upon.
>
> It is also a statement of belief in how the world operates. And this
I love this principle because it’s the one I have the hardest time with.
My practice has been to let it lead me to reflection. Whatever happens is the
only thing that could have happened is always true. And initial conditions
matter. And we always have choices.
So when things go in a way
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